The Legend Of Zelda - General Thread

I always liked the idea that Ganondorf's death in Wind Waker was his final death in that timeline. No more reincarnations or revivals, he just... made peace with himself and the world in death and was washed away with the tides, like all the old relics of the past. It feels appropriate to the game's theme of not clinging to the past.

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Yeah,his death felt pretty final,although it just means they're back to fighting Gannon again

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Well, they haven't dealt with Ganon yet in the Adult Timeline. There was Bellum, then Malladus.

Though the latter did seem very Ganon-esque.

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Isn't the Wind Waker Timeline the same one as the Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks Timeline? So Ganon would be dealt with, because that's the one time they dealt with him permanently.

The indication from the above post is that while Ganondorf the mortal identity is finally gone, Ganon the demon pig man can still come back and cause shit.

That seems unlikely, as he's supposed to be completely done, but we'll have to wait and see.

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Re:BOTW, Zelda mentions the realm of Twilight at one point when knighting Link, so would that definitively place it in the Child Timeline? Or did the interlopers who got banished to the Twilight Realm get banished pre-OOT and (maybe) pop up in the Imprisoning War timeline?

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Hard to say. It's never clarified when exactly all the stuff with the interlopers went down really.

You know, I'm considering going back to my theory that BOTW is a unified timeline. That the three worlds somehow finally merged back together at some point.

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I'd be down with that. Oh, maybe it's a result of Hyrule Warriors and its multiverse shenanigans.

Edited by Discar on Jul 18th 2018 at 11:48:26 AM

Hyrule Warriors seemed to imply that all of the eras it explored were in a single history, though the characters were so incurious about that aspect that who knows.

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BotW has references to a bunch of the other games, and that's before getting into DLC material like masks and outfit sets.

I kind of recall one of the development team saying that BotW doesn't go into any of the other timelines, but at the moment I haven't the time to look up a cite.

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It obviously comes at the end of one. Most likely child, since it takes great pains to describe Ganon losing his humanity over time, something that happened as early as the first games in the Imprisoning War timeline.

Beyond that, let's face it, Nintendo just blindly throw a dart at a picture of the timeline to figure out where it goes.

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Hopefully that dart lands between Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass.

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I believe it was in the Breath of the Wild artbook that they said that the game does not have a place on the timeline and that's why there are big references to all three of them.

I heard somewhere that the different timelines are actually something like legends told by the different races in Bot W, which would explain the inconsistencies with what exactly happened in the past, and why the damn country keeps changing across the series, because no one's able to keep that shit straight :V

Edited by Jaryl on Jul 19th 2018 at 7:22:48 PM

Does anyone ever wonder if like Hytopia is looking at Hyrule being destroyed by demons every hundred years or so from their opera glasses with their powdered wigs?

You are way overestimating how much Nintendo cares about the timeline.

Then why did they bother making a timeline?

Why not just stick with the different versions of the same legend concept?

I was totally fine with that to be honest.

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Or, like, a stable time loop where the same stuff happens over and over again, but different.

It's the exact same story but with a really Unreliable Narrator.

The official timeline is fan service, and they made it to put into a book full of Zelda fan service.

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I'm ok with that.

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The "different versions of the same legend" thing is and always has been utter nonsense.

It breaks immediately, because Zelda II, Link's Awakening, and Majora's Mask are all clearly not the same events that you could get away with claiming Zelda I, A Link to the Past, and Ocarina of Time are meant to be. And then Wind Waker and Twilight Princess both explicitly call back to Ocarina, and Wind Waker had direct sequels, and the whole thing falls apart.

I think people take the timeline too seriously. One exists, but it ultimately isn't terribly important where one linked series of games fits in among the others.

Oh, I'm well aware of the fact that certain games directly follow each other.

Just think of it as different people adding one different parts to those different legends.

That's why some parts follow up the hero of time, some talk about that hero of winds kid, and others talk up a different dude.

Too many cooks spoiling that one pot.

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