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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1226: Jan 6th 2013 at 10:04:00 AM

Plus Rome not understanding that Orthodox Christianity is still Christianity.

Just like Protestantism.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#1227: Jan 6th 2013 at 10:15:55 AM

Maybe, but I doubt it.

Rome never did lose the taste for its Empire. It just never regained the power to forge one for itself.

Five_X Maelstrom Since: Feb, 2010
Maelstrom
#1228: Jan 6th 2013 at 9:08:24 PM

Speaking of Rome, we haven't had much news on Rome 2 lately. Hopefully we get something later this week, maybe!

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#1229: Jan 7th 2013 at 10:07:36 AM

Rebuilding the Roman Empire in RTR. We've kicked the Greeks soundly out of Italy/Siciliy and managed to finagle a somewhat costly peace with them for now. Which is good, because Gaul and Carthage have allied against me and have me fighting a two-front war. The Gaullic side is defensive for now, I need to take over Sicily and try to grab a peace settlement from Carthage first.

On the other hand, we have the income for a third doom-stack and a general coming of age within four turns. We might just grab Gaullic settlements after all. Or send this one to secure the northern Carthaginian border first, then attack Gaul. Decisions decisions.

Five_X Maelstrom Since: Feb, 2010
Maelstrom
#1230: Jan 8th 2013 at 12:09:32 AM

A friend made this for me. Fun stuff.

Hopefully my Tosa campaign goes well. I've hit RD now, and for some reason, many of the pro-Imperial factions had dwindled away and joined up with the Shogun earlier in the game, leaving me as the only real Imperial force left. Most of the other Imperial factions now are my vassals, for the honour boost.

Also, today I learned that there's a cap to how much Daimyo Honour you can lose from looting. I'll take that into account when I try my next Otomo clan campaign.

edited 8th Jan '13 12:09:56 AM by Five_X

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1231: Jan 8th 2013 at 6:52:33 AM

[up]Yeah, that pic was cool.

Playing Medieval 2, I had one epic series of battles last night over Genoa, which the French had before my Scots horde came calling. Taking the city was relatively easy, but then came the French to try and take it back. The best fight in the whole lot was this one.

I started with 1583 men deployed, several (and most crucially) of these were Highland Archers and Mercenary Crossbowmen. The French started off with 2083 men deployed, with several units of siege artillery and large amounts of cavalry, and most crucially to events later on, their King, a fellow Crusader. The force ratio bar was such that if I had auto resolved the battle I would have been utterly destroyed. So, I decided to fight. I expected to suffer a crushing defeat.

By the end of the battle, I had lost 236 men.

The French had 77 men left alive. I had killed 1003 of them in the battle, along with their King (which was when things really started to go wrong - the AI had had him attack once their rams had smashed my city gates open and my Spear Militia and other melee troops slaughtered him like a dog.)

I took 1003 men prisoner, and having had my fingers burned when the survivors of a battle I had near Caen came back after me when I ransomed them, I wiped them from the face of the earth.

Admittedly, this was on Medium difficulty, but I had lost similar battles before and this one was EPIC as far as I was concerned.

edited 8th Jan '13 6:53:29 AM by TamH70

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
Taller than Zim
#1232: Jan 8th 2013 at 8:11:31 AM

[up][up] Tosa riflemen are absolutely beastly. And it doesen't even show up in their stats. (they have breech-loading rifles, which makes their reload skill about twice as effective as for other troops)

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#1233: Jan 8th 2013 at 10:00:48 AM

I have a bug where the Medieval II launcher does not exit when the game starts, because I have Kingdoms. The music is good, but I don't want to hear it all the time! I have to go into Processes to exit it!

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#1234: Jan 8th 2013 at 10:30:43 AM

[up]Same here, except the music eventually stops. Took me a while to fogure out why my laptop was running so incredibly slow.

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#1235: Jan 9th 2013 at 7:25:39 AM

If you open the task manager and go under processes you can hunt down and end the launcher's process after starting the main game if the music doesn't stop. I believe what is happening is that the launcher is trying to connect to a Medieval 2 update server which CA doesn't have running anymore, so it just stalls out, eventually giving you a "can't connect" error if you let it run for a while.

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Five_X Maelstrom Since: Feb, 2010
Maelstrom
#1236: Jan 17th 2013 at 12:10:16 AM

Just finished up a fantastic Tosa campaign. Really, that was some of the most fun I've had in a game. The ending was especially great, with Sakamoto Ryouma ordering Gatling guns to bring down a whole advancing army, leaving no one alive when the smoke cleared.

All in all, I think Shogun 2/Fall of the Samurai might be my favourite Total War game. Rome was good, but it was only really memorable with Europa Barbarorum, which always had a tendency to crash. Maybe with my new high-end computer, I can run it without so many problems. Possible, but not entirely likely.

In the mean time, I'm beginning my second Otomo campaign. I think I'll have a much better handle on it this time around.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1237: Jan 20th 2013 at 3:50:16 PM

I've restarted my Date campaign again, and have been doing relatively well. The Mogami and Hatakeyama have been almost entirely wiped off the map, same with the Honma. Right now I'm allied with the Uesugi, though due to them fighting a losing battle with the Ikko-Ikki (who are allied with the Takeda) they only have one province left. I had my first encounter with the Ikko-Ikki just now, and I've got to say they managed to do pretty well. It was a close defeat for me, but hopefully I'll do better later. My real beef now is that I can't build Bulletproof Samurai because you need an armory in addition to an upgraded Yari Drill Yard, in the same city. I'm trying to get my capital upgraded as much as possible so that I can start building them, so hopefully I'll be able to turn the war around in a while.

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Purveyor of Obscurity
#1238: Jan 20th 2013 at 4:56:15 PM

ROME.

It's coming back!

What's the news on it?

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Olivetree ETERNAL from The Grave Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
ETERNAL
#1239: Jan 20th 2013 at 4:57:53 PM

They confirmed Macedonia as a faction recently.

I know who I'm playing as for my first campaign.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1240: Jan 20th 2013 at 5:13:38 PM

Nyeeeer...*whine* I want more gameplay, dangit!

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Purveyor of Obscurity
#1241: Jan 20th 2013 at 7:57:54 PM

Anything more?

I do hope they take at least some cues from EB this time around.

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Exterminatus Meglomanical Sociopath :3 from Sydney Since: Oct, 2011
#1242: Jan 20th 2013 at 10:00:36 PM

What did EB do?

I expect one of the factions to be Hellenistic Egypt with its trait to be bonus in gold, agriculture and science (Library of Alexanderia).

Later Seleucid Asia?

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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
Taller than Zim
#1243: Jan 21st 2013 at 6:01:09 AM

[up] What didn't they do? They pretty much redid most stuff (including a different recruitment system, etc.) new units, etc. etc.

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#1244: Jan 21st 2013 at 6:03:06 AM

They expanded the map. They did a lot of the same things as Rome Total Realism, just with different particulars.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1245: Jan 21st 2013 at 10:18:23 AM

Yeah, I think I remember reading somewhere that instead of individual recruiting now you're making armies by the legion.

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Purveyor of Obscurity
#1246: Jan 21st 2013 at 11:55:31 AM

Only the most awesome mod for Rome that I have ever seen. The map they made nearly extended to China, the Atlas Mountains, Norway, and deep into Arabia.

Legion: ...I'm salivating now.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1247: Jan 21st 2013 at 1:58:11 PM

Going to start my Date campaign over again. Stupid Ikko Ikki-Takeda alliance >.>

KorKhan Teapot from The Sun's Orbit Since: Dec, 2009
Teapot
#1248: Feb 3rd 2013 at 6:24:09 AM

A call to arms for all Total War fans

I noticed last week that the page for the Total War series had gotten quite long and unwieldy, with many cases of poor Example Indentation. The most obvious solution seemed to be to create pages for all the individual games.

I would suggest the following steps when dealing with each individual game:

1. Create a page for the game. Write a description, upload an image, add to indexes, etc. Make sure they are added to the right namespace, i.e. Video Games. Add redirects if need be.

2. Browse through the tropes on the main Total War page (possibly with ctrl+f) and look for all tropes that apply only to the game you are working on., then move them to the new work page. If a trope features multiple uses throughout the series (e.g. through multiple bullet points), then move the entry that applies only to the game in question. The main Total War page should ultimately be reserved for tropes that recur throughout the series or that apply to the series as a whole.

3. Check the Example Indentation, grammar, veracity and general quality of the trope entries, both in the new work pages and in the original series page.

4. Maintain the new work pages, as well as the series page, to ensure that they remain in a good state.

I have already done this for Total War Shogun 2 and am part way through doing it for Medieval II Total War. Now I'm asking others to help me, particularly with the games I haven't played (Shogun 1, Empire and Napoleon). Many hands make light work. Anyone interested in helping should head to this thread.

P.S. Thanks to Septimus Heap for directing me here.

edited 3rd Feb '13 6:25:54 AM by KorKhan

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1249: Feb 3rd 2013 at 7:05:03 AM

Yeah, it does seem to be getting quite long, I've noticed.

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#1250: Feb 9th 2013 at 9:48:04 PM

So I've discovered something with Medieval 2, even if you kill the pope, take all his cities and kill all the cardinals, the Papal States as a faction will not die. I always wondered if it was possible and it appears that you really can't kill the Papal States, now I did try it as a catholic faction so that could be what is sustaining the Papal States, anyone tried wiping out all the Christian factions and seeing if the Papal States sticks around?

Also there is more news on Rome 2, we have a 5th faction revealed. The factions are now, Rome, Carthage, Macedonia, A British tribe, a Gaelic tribe and 3 more to be revealed. Also apparently they are splitting regions into sub regions, from what I get it’s gona be like Empire but you can actually use the little towns you take of an enemy instead of jsut denying them the ability to use them, though I’m not sure. http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Factions

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