Total War: General discussion.

Plz gib, CA

I wants Total War soundtracks to play them during Pathfinder games. Is important.

I really wanna hear the full version of that song that's used as the end-of-trailer leitmotif.

Oh, that is a shame. I thought CA have released the soundtrack for any of their games because when I googled it, I found a lot of them in Youtube, including that Peaches Lamb one, and "music-sharing" website. Not to mention, for a series this popular, it's weird that its soundtracks aren't on sale. Oh well.

Thos is a shame. While playing my current Coop Mortal Empire Campaign, I came to appreciate some of the music, it really adds to the atmosphere.

Speaking of Warhammer, I deeply came to dislike the Elves, because they really seem to enjoy screwing things up for the side of order. The Wood Elves are a permanent security risk. They either declare war on my human (Bretonnian) ally, or on the Dwarfs, who are busy keeping the Greenskins and Vampire Counts in check, or both. We ended up burning down the entire forest and occuppied it (in that order), but then the beast men showed up and "liberated them" (we play with some mods that make Chaos invasions and Beast Men harder). And guess who started another war against the Dwarfs?

Not to mention how Teclis (after uniting Ulthuan) ruined an entire campaign when he declared war on Bretonia for no reason. Just when we were attempting to push back the Vampire Counts and Greenskins in ordee to save what remained of the Dwarfs... . Amazing how Teclis managed to doom the world in another alternate timeline... .

Here's a Steam guide claiming it's possible to make Attila as optimized as Thrones of Britannia (requires Attila, Thrones Of Britannia, Blood & Burning DLC, and the latest version of Pack File Manager)

Tried that before and it just made the lighting look weird :/

Did it make Attila insufficently dark and brown?

Records (i.e. Generals not playing Dynasty Warriors) mode footage:

A big AMA for 3K. Sorry, I haven't found a summary.

The teams are working on:

1. A new Saga game. No idea what for, and I'm certain the picture for its section is unrelated◊.

2. 3K claims to have a better autoresolver. Also, they're adding a feature of seeing a balance of power between two armies without having to actually be in imminent combat with them and laying down the seeds for more post-launch content.

3. A Lord Pack for Warhammer is coming next, before anything else in the Total War series. They're also probably updating Bretonnia at the same time◊.

4. New launcher that fits in more mods onto your screen at once (among other things) [six, to be precise] used by Attila, R2, Thrones, and Warhammers. Other games should join the list later.

5. The fantasy game still-yet-not-announced-Warhammer-3 is undergoing mocap work at the moment.

6. Access team is apparently going to announce something at some point. "We’re very excited to share our secret project with you all as it’s a new genre for Total War and has been a real passion project for the developers involved."

7. They also mentioned a team working on a new FPS like that twitter post from a month ago mentioned. Yeah, not really TW-related or anything new from that either.

1. Fingers crossed for Hundred Years war.

2. Being able to see the balance from further away is going to be such a huge help, especially for new players who wouldn't necessarily understand if the troops they have are good against the enemy comp or not.

3. The lord pack was something about Skaven and Dark elves, I think? I don't remember anymore.

4. I don't have much opinion on the launcher. Always seemed somewhat unnecessary.

5. Probably won't get that one until 2020, but we'll probably start getting news in a few months.

6. New genre for Total War? Interesting. They've done historical and Warhammer Fantasy, so what kind of genre are we talking about here? New fantasy setting? Modern era Total War? Space age? If they're doing a new fantasy setting, which setting have they gotten the rights for where Total War would work?

"New genre" is probably going to be sci-fi. At least, that's what I'd guess.

No, it'd likely be Skaven and Lizardmen. Neither one's had a pack yet and the elves have gotten all the fun. Both of them have four lords, the Skaven have 3, and the Lizardmen still just have their base heroes.

Anything modern wouldn't make sense for a total war game, the scales involved are both too large and too small.

Strategically army sizes in Total War games are far too small for modern conflicts, and tactically modern warfare is squad based so normal Total War formation sizes and mechanics wouldn't work.

The changes necessary to make a modern Total War would pretty much mean it would be a Total War game in name only.

A "modern" Total War would probably look closer to World in Conflict or Wargame: Red Dragon.

A Youtuber theorized that by new genre, they mean new genre of game, like a card game, since it's all the rage these days.

Yeah, that was my first thought considering we all mostly think of TW games to have settings rather than writing genres (ain't no "Boshin War" genre after all, though it's not wrong to consider the historical TW games to be historical fiction).

...but if they're already making an FPS, is that even likely? It might be safer to assume they're referring to the setting. I can't guess what new game genre would go with the Total War series - they've already made a character-based action game. I can't imagine them being allowed to make a more typical MOBA, especially since the genre's basically petered out by now with tons of shutdowns. Possibly turn-based strategy since that's been going under a resurgence, but I'm not sure if they'd even consider it compatible with their fanbase (I feel like it's pretty fair to find turn-based strategy's thing of two sides hitting each other one after the other boring after you've watched hundreds of doodz attack each other at once [I personally do not think that, on that note]).

Honestly, a "Battle Royale" Total War game is about the only thing I'd say vaguely has a chance of happening. Apex Legends' recent success probably made lots of people think a new Battle Royale game still has a chance of getting a slice of the pie, and the basic game mode at a glance has some similarities with classical RTS FFA anyway...I could see it happening with map loot being something more blatant that needs to be fought over, kinda like Warcraft 3's creep camps.

Edited by VutherA on Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:47:01 PM

I've been thinking on something in regards to Warhammer. We've gotten 2 factions now (Norsca and Vampire Coast) that never had official army books and lists. Is it safe to say the floodgates have been opened on minor factions? And how good are the chances of more being made, like say, Southern Realms/DOW or Araby?

Slim. Warhammer III will be all about Chaos, meaning that anything south of Kislev is going to get shafted.

Now, Kislev itself, on the other hand...

Yeah, Warhammer 3 might be a good place to make Kislev into a fully-fledged faction.

I might honestly not even bother with Warhammer III, as much as I liked the first two. Chaos is quite likely the single least interesting aspect of the setting, so an entire game focused on that seems spectacularly dull.

Well that's the entire point of 3, to flesh it out and make it more appealing than "Horde faction that's easily beatable if you have the right army composition."

It's not even that. As fun as it is to scream "Blood for the blood god" in the name of memes, Chaos just doesn't have much in the way of motivations, culture, or character. That's a problem with the setting, not with the games.

I'd honestly say the minor factions are pretty likely to happen - as long as CA considers DLC being worth making for III. The former is logical due to simply running out of other options. But to be honest, that might actually not turn out to be the case for the latter - the momentum's gotta run out at some point, and it's generally inevitable that sequels see less sales than the initial runaway success.

True.

I wonder what they’ll do for fantasy after this.

I would not say no to special campaigns for Warhammer with different factions. Small-scale campaigns like the Beastmen one and such.