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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

Serenitas lmao bye Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
lmao bye
#11526: Apr 30th 2011 at 7:59:39 PM

I think I'd make a great Barkeep.

[EDIT: Cat Nip get! grin]

edited 30th Apr '11 8:21:16 PM by Serenitas

someday we will foresee obstacles
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11527: May 1st 2011 at 3:42:54 AM

Xande.

Don't ask me how.

So that's how one escapes the Flood of Darkness.

Ana Since: Jan, 2001
#11528: May 1st 2011 at 4:11:27 AM

One thing that always bugged me and I finally have to ask, so sorry if that is a recurring thing in this 10000+ posts behemoth. Why is Sephiroth considered such an awesome villain to this day? He barely has any backstory (and the "got infused with stuff, went mad" was directly lifted from Kefka - no I didn't play Crisis Core nor do I care about a game released 11 years after the fact) had no personality whatsoever, even his evil deeds weren't particularly impressive; i.e. burning down a village, stabbing a fat guy in a suit and the resident Staff Chick, then summoning a space rock. Making Cloud go BSOD barely counts.

I'm not trying to piss off anyone here, I'm just trying to understand it. Is it really just the White-Haired Pretty Boy thing, some kind of Nostalgia Filter or is there something I'm not getting?

edited 1st May '11 4:16:56 AM by Ana

Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#11529: May 1st 2011 at 4:18:41 AM

Well, he murdered one of the PC's in-story which is something that hardly ever happens in RPG's. He also killed somebody who could've been the main antagonists otherwise and, finally, he just looked cool.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#11530: May 1st 2011 at 4:51:48 AM

Exactly. I think part of old Sephy's charm is that he has enough sex appeal to make heterosexual men question their sexuality. That, or FFVII is just the most popular FF.

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#11531: May 1st 2011 at 4:55:45 AM

Also, "Ana? Oh my gosh, I haven't seen you since Mt. Itoi. How is Ninten?"

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#11532: May 1st 2011 at 6:31:34 AM

Why is Sephiroth considered such an awesome villain to this day?

Hey, people have their own opinions and one cannot speak for everybody Though the reason might be partially due to killing Aerith.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#11533: May 1st 2011 at 6:50:18 AM

Yeah. While some of the things he did had been done by Kefka before him, there were some factors that make those things more interesting when he does them.

First of all, while Kefka killed General Leo, his death was not as much of an impact as Aerith's. Kefka killed a guy who you were allowed to control for one battle. True, that was long enough to convince you that he was about to become a full-time party member, but it wasn't as much of an impact as Sephiroth killing, what, the third playable character you were introduced to? At the time, I don't think anybody saw Aerith's death coming.

Also, while Kefka was certainly a threat, one big thing about his earlier character was that he didn't seem like one. They built up his growing threat, and the surprise of what he does at Thamasa and the Floating Continent, by making him look like a joke, albeit a pyromaniac, poisoning joke, at the beginning. Whereas Sephiroth was made to be an extreme threat right from the beginning. Slaughtering everyone in the Shinra building, impaling a Midgarsormr, he's made out to be this huge threat that the party simply can't engage, and that makes him very interesting from the start. Whereas Kefka only becomes scary if you stop to think about his steady growth of power.

I have a message from another time...
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11534: May 1st 2011 at 9:58:21 AM

Why didn't I remember that there was a Red Dragon in one of the chests at Barrier Tower?

I got annihilated by Atomic Ray. It does 550-600 damage to everyone, while my heroes have around 570 HP.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#11535: May 1st 2011 at 10:22:38 AM

Two of the chests, actually.

And if you have a guy who knows Control, and someone with Reflect, that's actually a good opportunity to learn Level 3 Flare really early.

I have a message from another time...
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11536: May 1st 2011 at 10:24:12 AM

I don't use blue magi. Too much fuss.

I mean, I already faced a Yellow Dragon in one of the early chests of that dungeon (and luckily saved after it). That one was only mildly challenging. The Red Dragon was like five times worse.

edited 1st May '11 10:24:58 AM by Kerrah

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#11537: May 1st 2011 at 10:26:05 AM

A pity.

Well, if you have Control, you can make the Red Dragon murder itself with a couple of LV 3 Flares.

I have a message from another time...
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11538: May 1st 2011 at 10:32:06 AM

Don't have control. My party is boring.

Bartz: Level 25. Level 3 Knight. Level 6 Mystic Knight.
Attack. Spellblade. Two-handed. Item

Lenna: Level 25. Level 2 Dancer. Level 2 Monk. Level 5 White Mage. Level 2 Bard.
Attack. Dance. White Magic. Item

Galuf: Level 25. Level 6 Time Mage. Level 3 Monk.
Attack. Time Magic. Barehanded. Item.

Faris: Level 25. Level 4 Ninja. Level 5 Thief.
Attack. Throw. Find Passages. Item.

Maybe I should try Romeo's Ballad to keep the dragon under Stop.

edited 1st May '11 10:32:47 AM by Kerrah

Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#11539: May 1st 2011 at 10:33:35 AM

Fork tower sucked.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11540: May 1st 2011 at 10:47:23 AM

I found Fork Tower surprisingly easy on my first playthrough.

Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#11541: May 1st 2011 at 10:53:51 AM

I kept geting Meteor'd and dying.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#11543: May 1st 2011 at 11:08:56 AM

Sephiroth was cool in FFVII, but I also don't see how he's such a revolutionary villain. Sure, he killed Aerith, but Golbez (technically) killed Tellah (or at least drove him to his death), Exdeath killed Galuf, and Kefka killed Leo. The only real difference that I can see between those instances is that Aerith was a young girl while the others were older men.

Besides, I never really saw that as Aerith "dying". She clearly is able to exert her will from the Lifestream, so I just saw that as her ascending to a higher level of consciousness. I figured it was some kind of Cetra thing.

edited 1st May '11 11:10:08 AM by Hobgoblin

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11544: May 1st 2011 at 11:10:59 AM

I just realised something. Leo is the first black guy in the series, and Kefka killed him.

KEFKA IS A RACIST, YO!

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#11545: May 1st 2011 at 11:11:53 AM

And the only black guy in FFVI (probably). That's practically genocide. >:(

ABRICK Hiding a box of scraps from IN A CAVE! Since: Jul, 2010
Hiding a box of scraps
#11546: May 1st 2011 at 11:15:56 AM

Racism AND genocide? It's official, Kefka is worse (and funnier) than Hitler.

A good writer puts in a lot of details in there story. But a great one gets a story from a single detail.
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#11547: May 1st 2011 at 11:26:16 AM

No wonder he's painted his face white.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#11548: May 1st 2011 at 11:27:48 AM

And he always avoids Jecht in Dissidia! >:(

Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#11549: May 1st 2011 at 11:30:31 AM

Wait, I think I know the difference. Out of those villains who killed party members, Sephiroth was the only one to kill a useful party member.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
Serenitas lmao bye Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
lmao bye
#11550: May 1st 2011 at 11:34:56 AM

I think the thing with Aerith is that she's not exactly easily replaceable, unlike the previous player character deaths in the series. My logic now is to not really use Aerith at all so it's not so much of a loss when she dies. (The only downside to that is no healing/invincibility limit breaks, but I got along just fine without them).

someday we will foresee obstacles

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