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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#78351: Nov 6th 2025 at 2:00:44 PM

Hm, these algorithms I wrote aren't quite giving the results I expect. I know! I'll write an algorithm to detect and correct my other algorithms when they don't give the results I expect. Now everything will give the results I expect!

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#78353: Nov 6th 2025 at 2:27:06 PM

Looks like we ain't getting Final Fantasy XVII for a long time.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#78354: Nov 6th 2025 at 2:30:43 PM

I mean, squenix jumped into the NFT bandwagon when the NFT bandwagon was way past it's prime.

This isn't surprising.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#78355: Nov 6th 2025 at 2:38:12 PM

Nah, once the whole AI push blows up in their faces Square will fast-track FFXVII in an effort to claw some money back.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#78356: Nov 6th 2025 at 2:39:36 PM

Considering the last few FF games didn't mean Squenix's sale predictions (whatever those were), not sure. (This is despite FFXVI selling relatively well)

Of course this is Squenix who is fucking insane and probably mad it didn't make infinity money.

Edited by Ghilz on Nov 6th 2025 at 5:40:51 AM

MarkIV Alchemist from Fewwawi Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
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#78357: Nov 6th 2025 at 3:47:06 PM

Do you know what game QA involves? Stuff like "run into every barrier in the game for an hour each". Automating that tedious, simple stuff is what AI will be good for.

"Computer" used to be a job title.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#78358: Nov 6th 2025 at 3:56:53 PM

It says generative AI. Which makes me think it'll be writing the bug fixes.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#78359: Nov 6th 2025 at 5:21:31 PM

[up][up] Having done QA, no, that's not all QA involves. Not even close. And it's insulting and reductive to imply it is.

Good QA involves not only making sure you can finish the goddamn game, but also testing various edge cases and scenarios the devs may not have planned. "What happens if I do X then Y? What happens if I toggle this option at this moment", etc...

Good QA actually takes a level of creativity and thinking to see what players might do in certain scenarios.

Should also be pointed out that it's not like automation doesn't already exist in QA.

Related to Squenix financial news Mass Layoffs hitting Squenix UK and Japan offices.

It says generative AI. Which makes me think it'll be writing the bug fixes.

QA generally doesn't write bug fixes. That's a dev job. Though this varies where in a dev cycle a game is who is in charge of fixing it.

Edited by Ghilz on Nov 6th 2025 at 8:29:40 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#78360: Nov 6th 2025 at 5:51:28 PM

The funny thing about trying to replace employees with AI to save costs is that it doesn't save costs. Companies severely underestimate how expensive generative AI is.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#78361: Nov 6th 2025 at 5:53:04 PM

I'm not an expert on it at all but don't you also have to keep upgrading/replacing the generative A.I. every few years so it's up to date with the latest tech and thus get more expenses?

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#78362: Nov 6th 2025 at 6:34:33 PM

The funny thing about trying to replace employees with AI to save costs is that it doesn't save costs. Companies severely underestimate how expensive generative AI is.

They keep pressing the print infinite money button, and are repeatedly shocked when it costs them money instead.

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
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#78363: Nov 7th 2025 at 12:28:21 AM

[up][up] Generative AI hasn't even been around for longer than "A few years". Ridiculous snake oil that it is.

It's going to cause a lot of problems with the code. It's ridiculous to think this will work out.

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#78364: Nov 7th 2025 at 9:13:54 AM

The insanity lengths companies will go to blow millions of dollars just to "save" $50.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#78365: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:35:31 PM

Considering how crucial Quality Assurance is I don't see devs at Square seriously agreeing to generative AI unless they can have both humans and AI

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 7th 2025 at 12:35:45 PM

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#78366: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:41:39 PM

It's not really about saving money. It's about power over their employees. Squenix doesn't actually care if this ends up costing them more money, because the point is that they absolutely hate the people who work for them and want to do everything in their power to make their employees' lives worse. They want the employees to be so scared of losing their jobs that they'll work more hours for less pay and fewer benefits.

Is it rational? No, not in the slightest. But a pure, absolute contempt for workers is a core aspect of modern corporate capitalism. Thus, Squenix lays off a bunch of people while investing in generative AI that will do a shittier job and require the remaining employees work even harder to fix all the mistakes it makes. The only real hope is that players don't just pass on the upcoming games, but make it clear that the use of generative AI is the reason they're doing so.

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