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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

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#63277: Jun 5th 2020 at 2:29:16 PM

Speaking of mods, I've been dabbling in a few FFT ones.

I tried one made by this guy called Cerabow (it doesn't have a proper name so they just call it his mod lol), and it has a lot of nice Qo L features and rebalance changes that I liked, but despite ostensibly not being a difficulty mod it got really absurd towards the end of chapter 2 to the point it was getting almost impossible to win. I managed to get to Cuchulainn, but he was super absurd with his Ao E's and insane HP pool so I kinda just called it quits. The problem is the only real ways I could see beating him would be to grind to get new abilities/jobs and maybe buy some accessories to prevent Sleep, but by doing that I'd be raising my party's levels and because the story fights scale with you he'd just get even tankier and beyond my ability to kill.

Right now I'm playing another one for Wot L called Valeria. It seems promising but Dorter was super brutal lol, I was thinking of quitting but by equipping white magic to my chemist I was barely able to hang on and beat the map.

It kind of exposes one of the problems with vanilla FFT that ends up negatively affecting any mods for it: while it's my favorite FF game, I can't deny some of the encounter maps are just kinda bullshit. When you scale up the difficulty and make the enemies stronger, it can create these ridiculous roadblocks and you basically remove the tools players had to get past them in the original game, meaning you have to know the game on a ridiculous level or do a lot of min-maxing to get past anything.

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#63278: Jun 5th 2020 at 4:28:55 PM

Either that and romhackers just fixate on difficulty to begin with. Kinda why I cast a wary eye on romhacks sometimes.

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#63279: Jun 5th 2020 at 8:11:02 PM

Well I don't really have a problem with difficulty hacks, I try them out myself sometimes, but with FFT hacks it can get a little out of hand.

There's this well-known one called FFT 1.3 and it has this rather annoying sandbagging problem, i.e the enemies keep reviving themselves and it makes the battle drag ridiculously long.

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#63281: Jun 5th 2020 at 9:21:20 PM

So it'll be another stab at making it an action game?

DMCV and Dragon's Dogma are actually two of my favorite games ever so I'm happy.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#63282: Jun 6th 2020 at 3:36:04 AM

Yeah, those are both very solid action titles (I believe that Dragon's Dogma could have been really great if it had had a bigger budget), and I'm glad SE are getting some action expertise on the team, because while I'm not automatically hardline opposed to Final Fantasy having action combat, the evidence is that they're not much fucking good at making an action system :D

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#63283: Jun 6th 2020 at 4:41:13 AM

Lightning Returns had a good hybrid system. It was bloody hard by FF standards but it was good.

Life is more fun with infinite MP.
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#63284: Jun 6th 2020 at 5:11:56 AM

KH 3, especially with the Remind update, is the closest a JRPG has ever gotten to be Truly a Stylish Action game in a way that feels easy to learn but hard to master opposed to the Tales Series which tends to require precise button presses and fighting game motions to get combos going.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#63285: Jun 6th 2020 at 6:53:49 AM

I only played Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, and yeah, they had simple but decent action combat, as I recall. I never played Lightning Returns either, but I said not so long ago that I have a certain curiosity about that game, but I don't know if I'll ever have an actual chance to play it.

Of what I have played, VIIR is the best hybrid system, but even then it's far from perfect, I feel.

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#63286: Jun 6th 2020 at 6:58:05 AM

Well, if you're going for action, better learn from the best.

But for God's sake, just do a full Action RPG, no more of this hybrid BS, yea?

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#63287: Jun 6th 2020 at 8:55:56 AM

FF 7 remake definitely proved that they learned a lot. Giving healing items an actual in battle cost being the biggest one.

If we get a Dragon's Dogma game with Final Fantasy aesthetics well... Honestly a dream come true. The only things holding that game back where weird presentation issues.

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#63288: Jun 6th 2020 at 10:18:50 AM

The only thing I think that needs fixing in VIIR's combat is aerial combat. (At least I hope they take some cues from how the KH series handles it in Part 2)

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#63289: Jun 6th 2020 at 11:03:54 AM

KH 2 FM has one of the best action rpg combat systems of all time.

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#63290: Jun 6th 2020 at 4:44:39 PM

Crystal Chronicles remastered will not have single system couch co-op.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
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#63292: Jun 6th 2020 at 4:50:44 PM

Well dur,online play is more convenient

New theme music also a box
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#63293: Jun 6th 2020 at 4:52:08 PM

Then put both in, don't switch one for the other.

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#63295: Jun 6th 2020 at 5:36:41 PM

No couch co-op is a no-go for me then.

I'm still pissed off that developers stopped making split-screen a thing at the exact same time everyone started getting televisions that could actually fit it.

Bleye knows Sabers.
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#63296: Jun 6th 2020 at 11:35:38 PM

TIL War of the Lions added a new scene of Loffrey recruiting Wiegraf into the Knights Templar.

I didn't think it was necessary per se, but it was nice. Odd that I never heard about this until now. Supposedly there are some battles where you play as Delita protecting Ovelia, which I only found out recently too.

It kinda puts into perspective to me that even back then, Square had a lot of respect for this game. I'm sure Tactics was successful, but I don't think just any game would have gotten as much as Wot L did: new scenes (including full 3D cutscenes with VA), new classes, a completely redone translation, multiplayer...

Speaking of which, I'd never actually played Wot L much, but I have to say that no matter your opinion of the tone of the redone script and whether it's too purple, it beats the old one by a mile in terms of professionalism and competence. I recently played another hack based on the PS 1 version, and outside of arguably a few punchier lines here and there, it's far worse in basically every other metric you'd judge a script by.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Jun 6th 2020 at 2:35:58 PM

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#63297: Jun 6th 2020 at 11:39:02 PM

I like the one that has "Blame yourself or god."

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#63298: Jun 7th 2020 at 12:41:42 AM

"Fire Bracelet"

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Snot nosed little nobles!

Sand ra-a-ats?

I love that game.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#63299: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:52:56 AM

I wish they'd release War of the Lions on Switch. I've started that game so many times on PSP and never finished it, never even got halfway, I think, and I even bought it again on Android when it was on sale, but only played a few battles (it just doesn't feel right to play a 'proper' videogame on a tablet).

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#63300: Jun 7th 2020 at 3:21:20 AM

On that note, I'm a little baffled as to why they haven't put it on PC yet. Since they have the Android port it doesn't feel like it'd be too big a workload, and it would presumably make modding the game even easier.


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