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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#52: Oct 9th 2010 at 1:46:36 PM

He's not that diehard, dude.

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#53: Oct 9th 2010 at 1:46:37 PM

Not if he sees it as so terrible that it offends him by sheer virtue of existing. It's a fandom he loves, after all.

But still, hyperbole.

edited 9th Oct '10 1:47:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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#54: Oct 9th 2010 at 1:57:48 PM

Er, as a Sonic fan, wouldn't Komodin be even more likely to like 2006 over E.T?

No, mon, that would make me a Sonic fanboy. Big difference.

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#56: Oct 9th 2010 at 2:11:21 PM

Let us compromise and say that throwing both games into a campfire and watching that is more fun than actually playing either of them.

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#57: Oct 9th 2010 at 3:14:26 PM

I just wonder why they're axing Unleashed since it's the game that kicked them out of their stupor with the day stages, however poor the reception for Werehog and entire levels of QTE were.

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#58: Oct 9th 2010 at 3:19:22 PM

Most likely as an attempt to kiss up to fans by throwing out anything controversial.

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#59: Oct 9th 2010 at 3:28:22 PM

They'll alienate a good few too. But chances are this is just regular stuff which Sonic Team have foolishly chosen to put a spotlight on.

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#60: Oct 9th 2010 at 4:15:29 PM

My guess is that they hope to bring in new fans and those who were alienated by the last decade or so of games by burying as much of the series's less-than-stellar past. As such they're doing everything short of declaring that the games that the fans cried about the most never existed. It's basically them screaming that "Hey, we actually have changed this time!!" to the fans who complained about the post Genesis era.

Unfortunately, Unleashed, being the most recent fan overreaction, just happened to be on the chopping block because of that. They're certainly going to alienate people who actually did find value in anything they've produced in the past 14 years, but they're hoping that they'll pick up enough people to easily supplement them.f

I think that it's a mistake, but I can see the logic behind it. At the very least, they've learned not to completely abandon game elements because of fan moaning.

edited 9th Oct '10 4:16:53 PM by Geostomp

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Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#61: Oct 9th 2010 at 5:10:19 PM

I... don't see how this is a bad idea. In fact, it seems like the pretty logical way to go. They're halting production of older, poorly reviewed titles so that they don't compete with newer, hopefully better produced titles and hurt their sales, and so that they can rebuild their brand identity.

Seems like business 101 rather than some revolutionary and crazy new idea.

edited 9th Oct '10 5:10:55 PM by Miijhal

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#62: Oct 9th 2010 at 5:30:00 PM

I'm fairly certan that companies delist older titles for a variety of reasons all the time. Unless they were still selling like hotcakes, they're just excess stock. The only reason this is newsworthy is that it appears the news learned of their reasoning process.

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#63: Oct 9th 2010 at 7:34:50 PM

Well, Komodin, it's not like you haven't dissed the game before, and being a Sonic Fan(not a fanboy), that's the best I could guess in your case. Don't take it to heart, man.

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#64: Oct 9th 2010 at 7:49:48 PM

I think it is more Sega just stopped making the atrocious bad games. I checked Games on Demand and Sonic Unleashed is still up but not Sonic 2006.

edited 9th Oct '10 7:50:05 PM by GameGuruGG

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KuroFox Forum lurking fox from under a rock Since: Jun, 2010
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#65: Oct 9th 2010 at 7:50:07 PM

@ Rebochan

Yeah, I don't see the huge fuss about this all. Older games frequently go out of "print", so to speak despite not being books, and not much is thought of it.

Especially common with platforms that haven't been in production or are coming near their lives end. Or why do you think theres no more PS One titles anymore sold, no matter how great they were thought to be even to this day? However PC games get off easier due to major backwards compatibility. I still see Starcraft and Diablo II sold around. And also MMO's like Guild Wars, City Of Heroes and of course World Of Warcraft.

Just why they decided to make big news of common practice on the commercial field is kinda odd. The games that have been made will still exist, the ones that are downloadable will probobly stay at the online stores as they don't suffer any loss.

Then again, this does make me wonder how long have they been putting games like Sonic 2006 on a disc?

edited 9th Oct '10 7:51:59 PM by KuroFox

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#66: Oct 9th 2010 at 7:51:32 PM

Slight tangent: Square Enix still produces new copies of the PS 1 FF titles.

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KuroFox Forum lurking fox from under a rock Since: Jun, 2010
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#67: Oct 9th 2010 at 7:52:54 PM

THEY DO?!

Well, I guess my country doesn't get them. I admit this is very possibly one of the most minor market corners for big game companies in the world.

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#68: Oct 9th 2010 at 8:00:53 PM

Yeah, there are a few PS1 titles still in production. The mere fact that the Metal Gear Solid Collector's Set apparently had the PS1 game Metal Gear Solid proves that someone's been keeping the disk presses for that console long after it should've been retired. I think there is a company out there that specializes in reprinting games that are long out of print.

edited 9th Oct '10 8:04:46 PM by GameGuruGG

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