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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#1: Jun 15th 2025 at 6:54:24 AM

Shuten-Douji

The character is canonically 145cm tall (4'9") and her Karmic Transformation example says "A young and small youth was one of her favorite disguises for approaching victims unaware. Now, she's stuck in a form reminiscent of that deception". Other examples confirm that she's "permanently locked in her childlike appearance", her final sword "would still be enormous in the hands of her adult self" and the Glacier Waif examples mentions that she has "the body shape of a prepubescent girl".

We're keeping that in mind when assessing the images from a content / policy perspective.

1.1: The Great Youkai of Mount Ooe (primary image)
We've immediately pulled this one by mod fiat. Open robe/kimono, skimpy black underwear glimpsed but not fully visible.

1.2: Second Ascension (labelnote image)
We've immediately pulled this one by mod fiat. Half-open robe/kimono, with sash. Skimpy black panties emphasised, bra visible. Thigh-high black and red leggings.

1.3: Third Ascension (labelnote image)
We've immediately pulled this one by mod fiat. Much the same image as 2 in terms of pose and costume, but holding a large sword.

1.4: Final Ascension (labelnote image)
We've immediately pulled this one by mod fiat. Similar outfit to 1.1, but different pose, with the robe/kimono draped so that it's only covering her lower arms and the underwear the focus. Looks more childlike due to different art style.

1.5: Splendid Cherry Blossom Song (labelnote image)

Splendid Cherry Blossom Song

If we have alternative images that don't cause policy problems, we can potentially replace the cut images with new ones. If not, we're likely to promote the remaining Cherry Blossom Song image to the primary image - but for the moment it's still behind the labelnote.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 15th 2025 at 3:56:29 PM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#2: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:06:21 AM

For my part (mod hat off this time):

We should promote the labelnote image if it's all that's left, but I get the impression it's not the most representative of the character. So if we can find policy-compliant pics that replace some or all of the previous three, showing the outfit she usually wears in a less sexualised way, that would be ideal.

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#3: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:25:23 AM

I want to disagree with the notion of pulling Shuten's images due to "She has a body of a child" because her profile also has this.

  • Ink-Suit Actor: Shuten-Douji's artist, Raita, based her design on her own voice actress, Aoi Yūki — they have the same hairstyle, height and body type. In Arcade she even has a costume that gives her Aoi Yuuki's glasses. Yuuki is on record commenting on this very fact while noting that despite these similarities, the prospect of her cosplaying as Shuten is a dangerous idea.
I obviously don't have citation on Aoi Yuuki's actual height and all that, but if that is true then Shuten is meant to be a short adult rather than a child. She has only made such comments maybe once (and mainly to tease Kintoki about how she looks now) and hasn't been treated as a child otherwise. Not to mention that calling her a child is easy when the "adult" Shuten-Douji AKA Ibuki-Douji looks like this.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/340mfllyyi461.jpg

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GracieLizzy from Sunderland, UK (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:28:27 AM

[up][up] I've had a look at the FGO wiki and the gallery page has very few options for her that aren't either still revealing or even less representative looking. I also saw game sprites if her in the cherry blossom kimono at least, the other alternative outfits were all like modern streetwear or a alternative dress that had no associated sprite work. So it seems like the best option?

Edited by GracieLizzy on Jun 15th 2025 at 4:29:07 PM

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#5: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:33:47 AM

I think Shuten Douji is more acceptable than the other because she is definitely a petite woman, not a child. As explained in the Ink-Suit Actor, she is clearly modeled after a petite woman. She even admits that trying to cosplaying her is too daring.

Plus, what kid drinks?

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 15th 2025 at 8:36:57 AM

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#6: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:40:59 AM

I obviously don't have citation on Aoi Yuuki's actual height and all that, but if that is true then Shuten is meant to be a short adult rather than a child

You have it flipped. We don't have citation on Shuten being designed after Aoi but we do have citation on her being meant to look like a child.

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#7: Jun 15th 2025 at 9:10:04 AM

For those that haven't been round this loop before:

In-universe, the character may be Shapeshifting or Really 700 Years Old, but if artwork of them looking like a minor is presented in a sexualised way, that still runs into content and image policy concerns.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8: Jun 15th 2025 at 10:47:51 AM

Said this in another thread but cropping to a less, er, provocative configuration is also an option, like what was done here.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/assassinshutendoujistage3.webp
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https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/assassinshutendoujistage3_7.webp

mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#9: Jun 15th 2025 at 10:51:37 AM

[up]I like the second one, since it resembles portraits during cutscenes. Assuming they cover enough, which for Shuten Douji, obscure the bottom part of her design, which seems to be the most concerning part of her design.

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 15th 2025 at 10:53:53 AM

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GracieLizzy from Sunderland, UK (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#11: Jun 15th 2025 at 1:33:20 PM

I believe the skimpy bra is part of the problem.

Mewaddlee from The American Desert Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#12: Jun 15th 2025 at 3:02:19 PM

I can’t help but notice that the folder for Wu Zetian has been left untouched even though it violates the policy on NSFW images. Different page, but Jack the Ripper’s folder likewise violates the policy.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#13: Jun 15th 2025 at 3:03:39 PM

[up][up]Aye that's why the first crop is there. 8.2 is hedging on there being a lot more design elements that might distract from what's left of the exposed skin, but as even typing that sentence out felt skeevy, I'm also just fine with using OP even if it's not as representative of the character's appearance.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 15th 2025 at 6:03:52 AM

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#14: Jun 15th 2025 at 5:29:58 PM

IIRC Shuten's main design is the skimpy outfit. Vote to keep the image of her in the kimono.


[up][up] Yep, Wu Zetian's outfits are definitely in need of a pruning, but it's likely that nobody's gotten around to them yet—the Image Pickin' thread only allows for so many active discussions.

Edited by Arawn999 on Jun 15th 2025 at 5:31:46 AM

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#15: Jun 15th 2025 at 6:58:12 PM

[up][up][up] It should be noted that the CN server actually censored Wu's outfit, such giving her more clothing that covers her in her 2nd, 3rd and final ascensions. I'm not saying that CN artwork could be prioritized over the other artworks unless they are agreed to have censored a significant part of the NSFW out, but worth noting regardless.

Edited by Siegfried1337 on Jun 15th 2025 at 6:59:26 AM

Eh, good enough.
Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#16: Jun 16th 2025 at 3:43:47 AM

Let's keep this thread focused - there are definitely other Fate/Grand Order character profiles that warrant a review, but they'll be picked up separately.

despoa Since: Aug, 2012
#17: Jun 18th 2025 at 8:31:04 PM

Quite frankly, if none of the images of her main outfit are gonna be allowed, you might as well only allow her kimono outfit be her section image.

https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/servant/112/assets

Or if you still want an image of her main costume, this is the best you're gonna get.

https://x.com/raita_z/status/1855587450531491918 https://x.com/raita_z/status/1863860524179755071 https://x.com/raita_z/status/1245656056971157507

Edited by despoa on Jun 18th 2025 at 8:39:19 AM

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#18: Jun 18th 2025 at 8:50:56 PM

[up] How is any of those supposed to be any better than the actual artwork she has, unless your argument is that Raita made Shuten's proportions less child-like later on?

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Mewaddlee from The American Desert Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#19: Jun 18th 2025 at 8:51:33 PM

[up][up] None of those look safe for work. And on a personal note, the proportions are revolting.

Edited by Mewaddlee on Jun 18th 2025 at 9:05:29 AM

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despoa Since: Aug, 2012
#20: Jun 18th 2025 at 9:04:13 PM

[up][up] Yes, that's the argument.

[up] Her main outfit is honestly NSFW by default. You can't really whitewash that away, but it is her most well known outfit in her Assassin form. And yeah, that's just how her artist draws women. Don't look at Minamoto no Raikou's art.

Mewaddlee from The American Desert Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#21: Jun 18th 2025 at 9:12:32 PM

[up] Yes, he supposedly doesn’t concern himself with being “bound by proportions,” or some shit. I sincerely tried to find the quote where he admits it, but I couldn’t find it and I honestly don’t care enough.

Edited by Mewaddlee on Jun 18th 2025 at 9:13:07 AM

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Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#22: Jun 18th 2025 at 9:12:41 PM

Personally I don't think any of those is an improvement. And associating the Shameless Fanservice Girl entry—especially the quote—with Shuten's default design is just... eww.

Edited by Arawn999 on Jun 18th 2025 at 9:17:41 AM

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#23: Jun 18th 2025 at 10:22:07 PM

Do we have other cases where a character is declared imageless because every conceivable image is NSFW?

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Mewaddlee from The American Desert Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#24: Jun 18th 2025 at 10:23:36 PM

[up] Mara SMT. But I’d say that the kimono could stay.

Edited by Mewaddlee on Jun 18th 2025 at 10:24:18 AM

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Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#25: Jun 18th 2025 at 10:23:56 PM

She has the pic where she's wearing her kimono properly, which is still on the page.

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