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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#1: Jun 15th 2025 at 5:24:54 AM

Abigail Williams

1.1 Final Ascension image

We've immediately pulled this one by mod fiat - as per the "Final Ascension (NSFW warning)" labelnote, the tropers editing the page acknowledged this as NSFW. It's up to Image Pickin' to decide if we need a replacement, but we don't want to put it back.

For context, the character also has these example:

  • Age-Inappropriate Dress: Her profile states her to be 12 years old, making her increasingly Stripperiffic outfit rather inappropriate for a girl her age.
  • Age Lift: The Japanese version of her profile specifies that she is 12 years old, making her outfit from her second ascension onward an Age-Inappropriate Dress, while the North American version omits her age entirely to get around that.

Remaining images (do we want to keep all three?) are:
1.2 The Silver Key (primary image)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/abistage1.png
The Silver Key

1.3 Second Ascension
Second Ascension
1.4 Third Ascension
Third Ascension

I can see an argument for pulling one (or possibly both) of the labelnote images on the same grounds, given the (partially obscured) skimpy underwear.


Abigail Williams (Summer)

In-universe variant/alternate of the same character, seemingly the same age, with this example listed:
  • Age-Inappropriate Dress: Oh boy. Her First Ascension dons a very skimpy and inappropriate swimsuit for a girl like her. As she ascends further, she wears more sensible and modest swimsuits.

Until now, the main image had the skimpy swimwear whereas the labelnote ones (do we want to keep all three?) are more modest.

1.5 Gatekeeper to Dreamlands (primary image)
I've pulled this one - if there's a wish to reinstate it, we can talk about that, but it may still get overruled by the staff (I'm being cautious on this, but there aren't enough mods online at the moment for it to be a consensus decision).
1.6 Second Ascension

Second Ascension
1.7 Third Ascension
Third Ascension
1.8 Final Ascension
Final Ascension

Cnoc na Riabh Yaraan-doo

A different issue with this one. As called out in Administrivia's How to Pick a Good Image:
If an image has a little copyright stamp (©) on it, we can't use it
1.9 Lostbelt No. 6
As an NPC in Lostbelt No. 6

Image immediately pulled on that basis. If anyone who knows the work feels we need a replacement Lostbelt No. 6 labelnote image and wants to propose one, this is a good opportunity.

Remaining images (do we want to keep both?) are:
1.10 Queen of the King Clan (main)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cnoc1stasc.png
(Summer) Queen of the King Clan

1.11 Final Ascension
Final Ascension

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 15th 2025 at 2:09:42 PM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#2: Jun 15th 2025 at 5:49:02 AM

With mod hat off:

  • Abigail Williams: Keep the Silver Key image (1.2) as the primary one, cut the two labelnote images (1.3 and 1.4). Open to adding a new Final Ascension labelnote image if we can find a less problematic one.
  • Abigail Williams (Summer): Keep 1.6 or 1.7 as main image, I'm not convinced 1.8 is different enough to 1.7 to justify a labelnote. Open to adding a new Gatekeeper to Dreamlands image as main if we can find a less problematic one.
  • Cnoc na Riabh Yaraan-doo: The Lostbelt No. 6 image (1.9) is very different to the other two, so it may be worth reinstating as a labelnote if we can find one without copyright problems. 1.10 and 1.11 are quite similar aside from pose - I'd be in favour of cutting 1.11 on that basis.

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#4: Jun 15th 2025 at 6:57:22 AM

  • Abigail Williams: Keep 1.2. 1.3 and 1.4 should be cut to maintain consistency.
  • Abigail Williams (Summer): Keep 1.7 as main image. That's her primary appearance used in the story.
  • Cnoc na Riabh: I agree that 1.9 can be given a simple swap without the copyright notice.

I've embedded an alternative outfit used in official art by the same artist as all examples given in OP for Abigail below retaining the same major traits (uniocular cats, inhuman skin color, a third keyhole shaped eye, giant keys, the hairstyle) as Gatekeeper of Dreamlands for a possible replacement of the original art.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9305760a.png

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#5: Jun 15th 2025 at 7:07:57 AM

[up] That artwork was actually in the pages some time ago, when the FGO character pages also included anniversary artworks and April Fool's illustrations. However, it was decided in a previous clean-up thread to remove those artworks and just keep characters' Ascensions and in-game costumes to cleanup the pages.

As for Cnoc na Riabh image, here is the portrait version of it from the game without the watermark. Note that there are few other pages in the non-playable character sections who have a similar problem.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cnoc_lb6.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cnoc_lb6.png

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mariovsonic999 Since: Feb, 2012
#6: Jun 15th 2025 at 7:30:50 AM

If we are removing the NSFW images because she is a literal child (not a 50-year old loli, like Helena Blavatsky), then we should acknowledge it in Age-Inappropriate Dress to explain why TV Tropes cannot show it.

Still, her eldritch side is still important to explain why she's a Foreigner, so that anniversary image can be a decent compromise, especially since it is not as extreme in terms of NSFW.

[down]I guess. Still, I'm sure someone is going to look at her profile, wonder why she doesn't have all four Ascension images like everyone else and insert them in again. Rules be damned. So in that case, we should have a commented out text to explain to not added those Ascension portraits for Abigail.

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jun 15th 2025 at 7:36:13 AM

MB74 Since: Feb, 2024 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#7: Jun 15th 2025 at 7:33:40 AM

[up]Not to sound rude, but i think people will understand why a website isn’t interested in showing NSFW images of a child, so an explanation in a trope isn’t necessary

Then have a commented out note saying "Accession images were removed by discussion, don’t add them back" [nja]

[down] My apologies, wasn’t aware of that

Edited by MB74 on Jun 15th 2025 at 10:42:09 AM

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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#8: Jun 15th 2025 at 7:40:42 AM

[up] The comment is already there for the images we've pulled. If this thread removes more of them, we'll add more comments to document that.

hunter10bt Since: Apr, 2022
#9: Jun 15th 2025 at 8:44:24 PM

For Abigail Williams, I will be honest, the only keeper I can suggest without drawing a crossfire is 1.2.

For Cnoc na Riach, I'd use 1.10 for main and TPPR10's upload for her LB6 story version. 1.11 is exactly the same costume like Mrph1 said.

Edit: I forgot that tvt links words with camel case. Sorry for that.

Edited by hunter10bt on Jun 15th 2025 at 8:45:56 AM

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#12: Jun 20th 2025 at 5:56:25 PM

[tup] to Mrph's suggestion as well

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#13: Jun 23rd 2025 at 8:51:57 PM

I'm good with Mrph's suggestions.

5 could be fine for the copyright image replacement.

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#14: Jun 25th 2025 at 10:28:48 AM

Adding a crowner. Just working out how the options should look.

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#15: Jun 25th 2025 at 4:23:44 PM

Crowner's up and running.

As it says, the default is to leave everything unchanged (except for the policy breaches already removed) - we'll only cut images (or add more) of that particular option gets consensus.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 25th 2025 at 12:24:29 PM

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#16: Jun 30th 2025 at 2:01:04 PM

Very late votes bump; several in the green.

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#17: Jul 5th 2025 at 6:47:16 AM

Calling the crowner:

  • Cut all labelnote images for Cnoc
  • Cut all labelnote images for the 'Salem' Abigail
  • No consensus to cut labelnote images for 'Summer' Abigail.

  • Labelnote image 1.7 replaces the main image for 'Summer' Abigail
  • Labelnote image 1.8 will be cut for 'Summer' Abigail

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#18: Jul 5th 2025 at 10:23:41 AM

All done. Locking up.

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25th Jun '25 10:28:00 AM

Crown Description:

Characters in scope: Abigail Williams and Cnoc na Riabh Yaraan-doo

Thumbs up to support the proposal, thumbs down to reject it.

As these images are already on the page, the default outcome is that nothing changes unless we have at least 2:1 positive consensus (the exceptions to that are the nsfw images already pulled by mod fiat, which breach policy snd are not up for debate).

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