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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1401: May 14th 2025 at 2:59:38 PM

The hierarchy of power in the Marvel universe is about to change.

OBLIGATORY TOP POST EDIT: Read the previous page.

Edited by Akirakan on May 14th 2025 at 5:01:09 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#1402: May 14th 2025 at 3:18:34 PM

Imagine his contract clause about never losing making it in if he got the role. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1403: May 14th 2025 at 3:20:10 PM

Huh fan-art of Ghost and Walker, talk about an unexpected pairing

Also Ghost desperately needs some white in her costume. Without the mask there's nothing distinguishing about her outfit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlexHopeLife Since: Feb, 2025
#1404: May 14th 2025 at 3:20:11 PM

[up]*2. He would be more powerful than all the Avengers together and his arch-enemy would be Carol Danvers.

Edited by AlexHopeLife on May 14th 2025 at 3:26:24 AM

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#1405: May 14th 2025 at 3:59:10 PM

Apocalypse is defeated by Wolverine hugging him.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#1406: May 14th 2025 at 4:18:06 PM

'Til he's 90.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#1407: May 14th 2025 at 4:19:42 PM

The first new mutant will be Maggot and his maggots will be Jim Henson Company animatronics

Audiences will praise the practical effects even as they ask “Maggot? Really? Really??”

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MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#1408: May 14th 2025 at 6:09:04 PM

I saw the bit about a contract clause about never losing, and knew y'all were talking about Dwayne Johnson.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#1409: May 14th 2025 at 9:49:57 PM

I'm not sure if it was ever stated in the comics why Bob had such an insane reaction to the serum.

I don't know about the comics, but to me it looks like that when Bob dies, the Void brings him back to life with severe memory loss. It happens after the failsafe kills him, and it probably is also what saved him from the serum and caused the Void to manifest at the OXE lab.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1410: May 14th 2025 at 10:30:36 PM

Speaking of Void, them letting him zap a kid onscreen is pretty damn gnarly for the MCU, even if it turned out to be non-lethal. I couldn't help wondering what horrible nightmares that kid must've been trapped in the whole time.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1411: May 14th 2025 at 10:35:43 PM

Void's rampage is probably one of the worst things to happen to New York in a while. Cause it appears all of Manhattan was affected, so even though the whole thing was only like 5 minutes I can't imagine it was a pleasant experience for people reliving say sexual assault or abuse.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#1412: May 14th 2025 at 10:38:46 PM

Aside from the Thunderbolts themselves, it seems no one else retains memories of what happened after being Voided.

Otherwise, it would have to be the most mass-traumatic event (well, after the Snap) NYC has ever seen.

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#1413: May 15th 2025 at 1:50:17 AM

tbf this isn't the first time they pulled a No Endor Holocaust. Like they kinda skimmed what snapping half of the universe would do on that moment.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1414: May 15th 2025 at 5:29:14 AM

Cross posting from the main MCU thread.

What I find interesting, is that Thunderbolts it makes three movies in a role where the main villain is not defeated in a fight. Cassandra Nova, Leader, and Void are all beaten through methods that don't end in punching them. Nova was beaten by overloading the Time Ripper, Leader by talking Ross down and proving him wrong, and the Void is defeated by comforting Bob. This is probably going to continue with Galactus in First Steps. I just find that neat.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#1416: May 15th 2025 at 7:50:34 AM

I mean, every so often you need a guy who is so despicable you actually want to see him beaten down. Because that's the way real bad guys often are. It's just that except Nova none of these have quite that much of a despicable aura, and Galactus traditionally isn't that type, either.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1417: May 15th 2025 at 8:06:28 AM

[up][up] I am not complaining to be clear. I find it a good change of pace.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#1418: May 15th 2025 at 8:28:56 AM

Much like Disney's animated plot twist villains, it's a nice novelty but shove it long enough and it turns into an annoying recurring trope on its own right.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1419: May 15th 2025 at 8:36:34 AM

To be fair, they only did that like twice.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#1420: May 15th 2025 at 8:41:47 AM

But on that same spirit of fairness, it's never that bad of an idea to recognize in advance the fledgling beginnings of a pattern. Maybe it's two and done, and we get back into punching villains' lights out before long… in which case, fair and dandy. But if it's a longer term thing, we'll know EXACTLY when it started.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1421: May 15th 2025 at 8:46:04 AM

I think FOFD was more mocking certain parts of fandoms’ tendencies to turn “trends” like into mountains from molehills, and… yeah. Since it was brought up, the “twist villain” thing is a good example. It didn’t happen all that much, and most of the times it did it made sense for the story, but people starting reading it into everything - even places that didn’t even do it -and claiming that villain writing in animation was dead or whatever.

The MCU is experimenting both with more powerful villains and more sympathetic villains, and in this movie both at once. And in those cases, we’re likely going to see more stories in which heroes win by taking alternative means.

But… yeah, there’s probably going to be people who make a big stink out of how this means the MCU doesn’t do villains “right” any more or something. It’s just how fanbases are these days.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 15th 2025 at 8:50:13 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#1422: May 15th 2025 at 8:47:04 AM

Variety is the spice of life. Thus far I think they've done a good job with intentionally or by accident keeping them feelling distinct.

Nova basically rejects the offer and does get killed by the heroes, albeit not in a straight fight. Sam talking down rulk and the Thunderbolts empathising with Bob feel pretty different.

Galactus we don't even know what they'll do yet but it'll probably feel more like Strange and Dormammu than any of the other three.

Edited by dcutter2 on May 15th 2025 at 4:48:01 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#1423: May 15th 2025 at 8:54:25 AM

With Galactus, you usually pull MAD on him, trick him, or convince him to go away

Edited by Bocaj on May 15th 2025 at 8:54:47 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1424: May 15th 2025 at 9:00:19 AM

My guess is they’ll pull something similar to what they pulled with the Tesseract and Loki. We get introduced to the Ultimate Nullifier in FF, and then in the next movie it comes into play against the next threat.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#1425: May 15th 2025 at 12:55:03 PM

[up] (9) Sorry that wasn't purposefully directed at you. Just the idea that we're praising this idea now but I suspect it will work against the MCU in due time.

Right now we praise it for the innovation but the trend of villains being heroes of their own stories, having a point, or being Non-Action Big Bad will become a superficial accusation that the MCU doesn't go back to the old black and white conflict.

Edited by FOFD on May 15th 2025 at 12:56:48 PM


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