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Is the "blue-themed brat" a thing?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1: Nov 8th 2024 at 7:24:05 AM

So, we have Rei Ayanami Expy to cover the "unemotional, cold color-themed fey character" in media, especially in anime, but something that seems to be becoming a trend, or at least the seeds are there, is the "blue kusogaki" character, I.E. a primarily blue- or other cold color-themed character, usually female, who has a distinctly bratty/trollish/gremlinish personality and/or brings that energy to their interactions with other characters. The two characters that I immediately think of in this type are Gawr Gura and Kobo Kaneru from hololive, and there's a character in the newest group in hololive that just debuted who may turn into this (remains to be seen). What I'm curious about is if there's enough characters in other works/media to justify this being a thing or if it's still in Too Rare to Trope territory.

Edited by Willbyr on Nov 8th 2024 at 9:24:17 AM

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#2: Nov 8th 2024 at 7:45:53 AM

Personally I think it might work better as an internal sub trope, possibility to Bratty Half-Pint or a trope specifically about gremlinesque behavior. As it stands, the mainstream examples seem to be limited to vtubing and Hololive specifically. So it is too nascent for it be its own thing.

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#3: Nov 8th 2024 at 7:47:25 AM

I feel like it's too early. The entire thing came out of hololive after Gawr Gura, Kobo Kanaeru, and Regis Altare came into the scene, but it should be noted that, just within hololive, a) there are far more blue characters in hololive that aren't considered kusogaki, and b) there are a lot of kusogaki who aren't blue (Laplus Darknesss, Himemori Luna, Otonose Kanade, and the premier hololive kusogaki Murasaki Shion), so at this point the "blue = kusogaki" is more of a joke than a tropable theme.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Nov 8th 2024 at 7:47:49 AM

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#4: Nov 8th 2024 at 11:14:57 AM

That plus we've had mixed results with medium-specific tropes, especially anime-specific ones.

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#5: Nov 8th 2024 at 1:16:40 PM

Plus, this would immediately attract the same misuse that Four Is Death does, in the sense that - blue is a very common color, anime in particular likes to give every character a distinct color scheme; and brats are a very common character type; which means that logically there's going to be a bunch of characters that just happen to be blue and also a brat, without the two things having any connection to each other.

But unlike Four Is Death there isn't even an underlying cultural trope that many people are likely to reference, just, like... a meme about three characters in particular. Almost all the "examples" here would be random coincidences, since the meme is so recent.

How would we prevent a hypothetical trope from just becoming a list of all those intersections? We could make "pink-themed brat" or "red-themed brat" and I suspect the list would be just as long.

Edited by Aquillion on Nov 8th 2024 at 1:17:55 AM

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#6: Nov 8th 2024 at 2:07:31 PM

[up][up] For the record, I never intended this to just be limited to anime or Vtubers, the latter are just the first instances that made me wonder if this could potentially have legs as a trope. Hence asking if examples existed in other media.

Also, ~ITNW1989 mentioning some characters who fit the brat personality but not the cold color scheme pretty much shoots this particular iteration out of the saddle.

Edited by Willbyr on Nov 8th 2024 at 4:11:14 AM

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#7: Nov 8th 2024 at 7:27:36 PM

The vtuber examples are definitely not a thing. Their character designs are premade by the company and handed out to whoever passes the auditions, the personalities are just their personalities. There's no intentional connection here, it just turned out that way.

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