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#226: May 28th 2025 at 10:51:05 AM

[up] Elvis is in the film and Lilo has a collection of his music. It’s just not as prominent due to the fact that Lilo trains Stitch to be less destructive in a different way. I should note that Stitch does dress up like Elvis in the credits.

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#227: May 28th 2025 at 12:08:58 PM

Well, for better, or for worse, Doobus Goobus has decided to weigh in with his own animation on the matter, with the following:

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#228: May 28th 2025 at 12:16:22 PM

Im just here for the "Lilo and Stitch is Medicaid misinformation" debate.

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#230: May 28th 2025 at 12:27:02 PM

Well, that and what Medicaid is and whose covered by it is a nebulous and unstable topic right now. To be addressed in Lilo and Stitch 2: "Stitch's glitches aren't covered by Medicaid because he's an illegal alien and also Hamsterviel's there too."

Edited by Stage7-4 on May 28th 2025 at 12:27:23 PM

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#231: May 28th 2025 at 12:29:11 PM

have they said why Gantu was cut?

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#232: May 28th 2025 at 12:31:50 PM

The official response is "it just didn't work so well in live action."

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#233: May 28th 2025 at 12:37:51 PM

Considering the 100 million budget, the likely actual reason is "We didn't have enough money for even one scene of him"

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#234: May 28th 2025 at 1:06:02 PM

[up] While I totally believe you, I also am ignorant of animation costs, Hollywood production costs in general, and how inflation messes with our perception of money.

So can anybody suggest a recent movie with a budget around 100 million so I can picture how big or small that is? I'm trying to look this up but I keep getting results from the 80s and 90s and that's not relevant at all.

Edited by Stage7-4 on May 28th 2025 at 1:07:10 AM

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#235: May 28th 2025 at 1:19:47 PM

I mean originally the movie was going to release on Disney Plus 1st, not in theaters like originally so at the moment I do believe the budget is a factor into why he wasn't included as the villain.

it's possible they could it's still introduce Gantu in a potential sequel with maybe a Jumba redemption arc but that depends if Disney wants to do a sequel, which it would be surprising if they won't considering it's been said multiple times that Stitch is still very popular with people.

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#236: May 28th 2025 at 1:34:05 PM

The movie also smashed Memorial Day box office records and performed above expectations, too. At this point it’s a matter of when, not if a sequel gets announced.

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#237: May 28th 2025 at 1:35:36 PM

What will it be? Leroy? A glitch?

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#238: May 28th 2025 at 2:49:11 PM

Well I'm going to see the movie on Sunday.

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#239: May 28th 2025 at 2:54:26 PM

Have fun! Also, stay for the midcredits!

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#240: May 28th 2025 at 3:29:45 PM

Why does Nani even have to go to mainland for college? Doesn't Hawaii have one?

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#242: May 28th 2025 at 3:43:09 PM

So can anybody suggest a recent movie with a budget around 100 million so I can picture how big or small that is? I'm trying to look this up but I keep getting results from the 80s and 90s and that's not relevant at all.

Well, I made a rundown of all recent films similar to Lilo and Sitch in terms of themes and setting.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: $250 million
The Marvels: $374 million
Avatar: The Way of Water: $460 million
Avengers: Endgame: $356 million
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: $200 million
The Rise of Skywalker: $416 million
The Lion King (2019): $250 million
Solo: A Star Wars Story: $275 million
The Jungle Book (2016): $175 million
Men in Black: International: $110 million
Atlas (Netflix): $100 million

Out of all the films, only Men in Black International and Altas are close to Lilo and Stitch's budget. And Atlas was made for Netflix while Men in Black International is $10 million more expensive (and it was the cheaper end of the typical MIB movie as Men in Black 3 cost $215 million).

So Lilo & Stitch still comes across as the cheapest film Disney has ever put on to theaters in recent years.

Edited by Shadao on May 28th 2025 at 3:43:20 AM

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#243: May 28th 2025 at 3:47:27 PM

Budgets have been out of control for a good while. And there is a slight feeling that someone was lowballing it.

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#244: May 28th 2025 at 3:49:44 PM

Hollywood Accounting means they'll never actually give an accurate budget because it would mean paying people the right amount,which they are loath to do

Edited by Ultimatum on May 28th 2025 at 11:50:26 AM

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#245: May 28th 2025 at 4:30:24 PM

Latin America is said to have loved the movie. It did gangbusters here.

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#246: May 28th 2025 at 6:04:54 PM

I wasn’t gonna say anything, but tbh, the whole conversation around this movie is really frustrating to me. No one has to like the movie, no one has to watch the movie, but the amount of bad faith takes and vitriol towards people who do enjoy it all over the internet has been really frustrating to me. I don’t know why people can’t just dislike things, it has to be offensive and bad, the people who do like it have to be stupid, and every word by the people who made it has to be twisted into that they hated the source material. I’m just tired of it. I wish people would just stop talking about the movie and move onto the next big thing to complain about already.

And before people get defensive, no, I am not saying everyone who hates the movie is behaving this way. But it’s loud enough and frequent enough to be really annoying and frustrating and it drowns out a lot of fun, polite discussion we could be having about about what we like and dislike about this movie because it is, at the end of the day, a piece of fiction.

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#247: May 28th 2025 at 6:14:17 PM

@Effect 7 Admitedly if that IS the plan I'd argue that would actually make the live action canon feel a bit less cramped than the animated story. One nitpick with the original film is how quickly Jumba turns to make room for Gantu, who himself feels a bit rushed in. I'd argue it's only the sequel material that prevents their use feeling undercooked. Having Jumba serve more fully as a "first boss", only to have a Heel–Face Turn after Gantu appears later as the Viler New Villain would give the story a bit more breathing space.

Giving Nani more focus is an interesting idea, and even saving Stitch from drowning feels like a more developed redemption call back given their vendetta isn't REALLY directly atoned in the original, Stitch just becomes nicer through Lilo. Her going to college does feel like a more methodically done way of saying they don't have much left for her to do in the sequels again though.

@Stage 7-4 It was kinda surprising they DIDN'T do more with the humans being driven crazy by all the new aliens in the series. Nani was the most normal character after all, sans a short fuse, a perfect Straight Man/Butt-Monkey to the mayhem, but I guess with both Jumba and Pleakley there as well as Gantu as the bumbling villain, they had more amusing foils (I think the Baby Morph Episode was about it for a story where Nani fell victim to the new experiment or was even that involved at all.)

I'd argue it's why Lilo's 'odder' qualities are kinda absent in the series well, she just can't compete with the way more goofy aliens (as fun as it could have been to see said goofy aliens weirded out by a normal human girl thinking about it).

Edited by Psi001 on May 28th 2025 at 6:43:26 AM

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#248: May 28th 2025 at 6:33:15 PM

[up][up] This is the remake that decided to give Jumba, the resident Big Fun Mad Scientist guy with the endearing Russian accent, Adaptational Villainy that makes him barely resemble the original version of him, and you have a lot of very angry Jumba fans who despise what the remake did to his character, coming to blows with the people who liked what the remake did to his character. The conversations were going to get hostile regardless.

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#249: May 28th 2025 at 6:37:06 PM

I think the hate for this movie is also to do with people being sick of Disney live action remakes in general, the changes to the story were just icing on the cake.

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#250: May 28th 2025 at 6:39:18 PM

Well, at the end of the day, whether you like or hate the original or remake version of Jumba, he’s not real. The people you’re discussing with are. But I supposed it’s too much to ask for people on the internet to show respect to each other, especially in conversations about fake people/creatures.

[up]But that’s missing the point. I literally said multiple times it’s okay to hate the movie. I’m just tired of people being awful to those they disagree with. A fruitless plea on the internet, I guess, but I had to let it out somewhere.

Edited by Oshawott337 on May 28th 2025 at 7:40:36 AM

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