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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#1: Aug 31st 2024 at 9:38:54 PM

Okay, I really don't want to do bring this us because The Four Loves is one of my favourite books, but I seriously have no idea how The Four Loves is even supposed to function as a trope.

Each individual "love" seem to be covered by other tropes (Thicker Than Water and other Family Tropes for storge, True Companions and other Friendship Tropes for phileo, Love Tropes for eros, and Act of True Love for Agape), so the only way this page seem to be viable is if the work actually compares the four different kind of loves as Lewis's original does—which this page clearly doesn't do.

FSharp Resisting a rest Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: I wanna know what love is
#2: Aug 31st 2024 at 10:33:51 PM

I notice that The Four Loves is already on Tropes Needing TRS under "Combines Too Many Concepts."

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#3: Sep 1st 2024 at 2:15:24 AM

This page was created as a repurposing of I Just Want to Be Loved. You'll notice that that's a blue link to a separate page (not a redirect); the previous page was restored in 2016 because the people discussing it noted that there was no edit reason given for the conversion on the I Just Want to Be Loved page history and they didn't find the threads linked above. I gotta say, even with knowledge they lack, I'm with the people in the 2016 thread in not quite understanding why Fallen Legend thought that trope, specifically, needed to be converted to this one (this is what it looked like before the conversion, or at least the source of the page at the time, for the record), but it was sanctioned by Fast Eddie (and people in the 2011 TRS thread thought the trope was in a pretty sad state regardless).

Edited by MorganWick on Sep 1st 2024 at 2:18:54 AM

DeadlyEspresso Louisiana Heartstopper from your local Popeyes Since: Apr, 2023
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#4: Sep 8th 2024 at 9:58:45 PM

Yeah... The Four Loves is unclear about what kind of trope it's supposed to represent. Since the different facets of the The Four Loves are already covered by other tropes, I think it would work better as a Useful Note, perhaps including an index to tropes that involve the different loves.

I sadly doubt he would like Popeyes, though...
Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#5: Sep 9th 2024 at 8:10:29 AM

[up]I'm not actually sure how this page can work as a Useful Notes page though. It'd probably end up as a summary of Lewis's book, and that's not something we document around here.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#6: Sep 10th 2024 at 8:51:57 AM

I agree that the trope is currently way too broad. The way the examples are set up, any depiction of romantic love or friendship could be listed, and the only reason the page isn't absurdly long is that the trope is too confusing/obscure.

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