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Launching a trivia trope from TLP? "One Work Many Dubs"

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:00:23 PM

I am TRYING to unlaunch the One Work, Many Dubs trope because... for all I can (rather cannot) find in the administrivia, is how to assign a trope as trivia while launching from the TLP.

I see that published works are free to make without having to go through it, but I see nothing about specifically creating trivia.

Can anyone help me here?

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#2: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:03:52 PM

If memory serves me right, if a TLP draft is for something other than a trope (a work, YMMV etc.) then you're not supposed to physically launch it, you have to create it in the desired namespace (e.g. Trivia.One Work Many Dubs) and then discard the draft.

At this point, it is probably worth it to get moderator assistance. They may be able to move the page to the desired namespace.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#3: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:06:37 PM

^ Yeah I'm trying to unlaunch the trope.

That is definitely something that needs to be written down in the official administrivia pages though. I'll just do that.

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#4: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:09:39 PM

[up] It actually is written, in the TLP Guidelines, twice. I just checked and there are these:

Folder: Drafts ALLOWED in TLP

Work, Useful Notes, Just for Fun, and Other Pages: You don't have to put these pages through the TLP to launch them, but you certainly can if you feel like you need help with them. Just be careful to note that you cannot launch these pages by clicking "Launch" as you would for a trope. You will have to copy the source code and paste it into the proper namespace.

Folder: Other Uses of the TLP

Workshopping Non-Trope Pages:
  • Non-trope pages, such as Work, Useful Notes, and Just for Fun pages are all allowed on TLP for workshopping. However, it's important to note that these pages cannot be launched the same way a trope can. To launch a non-trope page from TLP, you must manually copy and paste the page source into the proper namespace, then discard the draft.

animuacid The girl of the window from Astyr residence in Lilysthia's grounds Since: Jan, 2024 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
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#5: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:11:25 PM

I think Trivia items are also launched through TLP because they are in the main/ namespace. They just need to be indexed in Trivia to show the banner.

So no need to unlaunch.

Edited by animuacid on Aug 31st 2024 at 9:11:59 PM

Eggy0 Wizards Don't Own Cats (she/her) (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#6: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:12:41 PM

Oh is that so? I thought Trivia counted as a non-trope page and therefore followed the same process. The TLP guidelines didn't appear to specify this.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#7: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:18:33 PM

All the same, I would feel more comfortable if I could get this trope unlaunched so that I can change the title to something less "Dueling Dubs"-vibe.

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#8: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:46:38 PM

[up] If you have an issue with the title, then you might've been a bit better off letting it bake in TLP at least a little longer. Based on the history and what I can read in the draft, you changed the title to what it currently is less than 12 hours before launching it (which seems to have been this suggestion), so there might've not been enough time for the suggestion to settle and see if it works.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#9: Aug 31st 2024 at 12:59:10 PM

I made a last minute change to the title and immediately regretted it.

HOWEVER.. I have also remembered that— once the trope is launched, it's no longer my problem to deal with it.

I have gone through with crosswicking examples and properly indexing the trope. If any issues rise up in the future, it'll be the rest of the community to problem solve the issues.

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#10: Aug 31st 2024 at 2:51:02 PM

Changing the title at the last minute before launching is also against the TLP guidelines. I'll probably have to kick it back for that alone.

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