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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1: Aug 5th 2024 at 9:24:21 PM

Noticed that Yoko Oh No is No Real Life Example, which, ya know makes sense (not a fan of Real Life Examples in general myself).

But it's kinda weird that the trope name is itself based on a RL person (mis)blamed for a band breakup.

Kinda comes across as "No Real Life Example (except this one)".

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#2: Aug 5th 2024 at 9:32:50 PM

Seems perfectly fair to me, because the Yoko Ono/John Lennon case of this is probably the single most well known of this phenomenon happening in like... culture. Even if you're not into gossip or celebrity drama, the particular backlash still a massively-known symbol for this phenomenon in the public consciousness (and a bunch of fictional examples are directly inspired by it in particular), so it makes sense why it would be acknowledged as the standard even if we're not meant to pass judgement on it or similar real-world examples of people being weird about their idols' love lives.

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#4: Aug 6th 2024 at 10:27:48 AM

Yoko Oh No is an Artifact Title from when the trope was created for real-life troping and made YMMV due to it having been an audience reaction before it was TRS'd. I'm not aware of any further problems to warrant a second TRS to change the name.

Edited by AnotherOnlinePersona on Aug 6th 2024 at 10:46:09 AM

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#5: Aug 6th 2024 at 3:40:56 PM

While the name is TV Tropes created, the Trope Namer is an infamous example that permeated and inspired the underlying concept. Probably a third of the examples make some sort of reference to the real life event. That said, "No Real Life Examples" is probably due to excessive tabloid gossip and trope decay that weakened the definition of the trope.

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SamCurt Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Aug 6th 2024 at 6:36:36 PM

That said, it's still logically absurd to allow a NRLEP trope to refer to real-life events, because the Trope Namer would be inferred to be an example, and violate the NRLEP.

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#7: Aug 6th 2024 at 6:47:58 PM

Not really. The real life event inspired the trope. We shouldn't shy away from the real life context just because of a much later NRLEP thing. Trope namers are not inherently examples, anyway

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#8: Aug 6th 2024 at 7:14:13 PM

We have Bread and Circuses and The Caligula, both named after an Ancient Roman practice and a Roman Emperor, respectively. These tropes are also NRLEP.

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#9: Aug 8th 2024 at 3:04:55 AM

It actually says on NoRealLife.Tropes 0 To C that Bread and Circuses only allows Ancient Rome itself as an RL example. (Don’t ask me if that’s allowed or not.)

But, whether Yoko Ono or Caligula were actually examples of the tropes they have named, their public perceptions certainly fit the tropes and influenced many examples of them.

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