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Deadlock Clock: Jun 29th 2024 at 11:59:00 PM
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1: Jun 17th 2024 at 10:46:47 AM

Another Kaiserredux page with lots of variant faction flags...

Russian Republic

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kx_russia_republic.png
Flag of the Russian Socialist Republic
Flag of the United Soviet Socialist Republic
Flag of the Russian Socialist Workers' Union
Flag of the Socialist Workers' Union of the World
Flag of the Proletarian Republic (Mayakovsky)
Flag of the Combined Syndicates of Russia
Flag of the Proletarian Republic (Lunacharsky)
Flag of the Russian Socialist Republic (Molotov)
Flag of the Russian Socialist Republic (Yezhov)
Flag of the Tsentrobalt Dictatorship
Flag of the Free Territory of Russia
Flag of the Russian Empire (Drozdovsky)
Flag of the Russian State
Flag of the Russian Peasants' Republic
Flag of the Grand Orda of the Russo-Skythians
Flag of the Russian Empire (Black Hundreds)
Flag of the Eurasian Union
Flag of the Eurasian Empire
Flag of the Eurasian State

Far Eastern Republic of Transamur

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2023_07_13_041626562.png
Flag of the Russian State (Kolchak)
Flag of the People's Tsardom of Transamur
Flag of the Far Eastern National State
Flag of the Russian National Empire
Flag of the Far Eastern Republic (Totalist)


Tatarstan

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kx_tatarstan.jpg
Flag of the National Republic of Tatarstan
Flag of the Tatar Socialist Republic
Flag of the Idel-Ural
Flag of the Golden Horde


Transbaikalia

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/flag_of_mongolia_1911_1921.png
Flag of the Transbaikal Cossack Host
Flag of the Buryat-Mongolian State
Flag of the Buryat Socialist Republic
Flag of the Transbaikal People's Socialist Republic
Flag of the Khodon State
Flag of the Provisional Transbaikal Military District



...and so on. I haven't included them here, but:

  • All four factions in the North Caucasus folder have multiple flag images
  • Both factions in the South Caucasus folder have multiple images
  • Central Asia's "Alash Autonomy" has multiple images.

I'm assuming we'll want a consistent approach to all of them, but please speak up if there are reasons we shouldn't tackle them that way.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#2: Jun 17th 2024 at 10:48:32 AM

For my part:

  • Cut everything except the first image for each faction
  • Add a comment warning against adding multiple images without IP approval. Ideally this should either be top of page or against all factions, not just those that already have multiples.

GracieLizzy from Sunderland, UK (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
CanuckMcDuck1 PEPSIMAN from Japan Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
PEPSIMAN
#4: Jun 17th 2024 at 11:09:04 AM

[tup] To 2’s suggestions. Who initially added all of these extra images anyway?

Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.
animuacid The girl of the window from Astyr residence in Lilysthia's grounds Since: Jan, 2024 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
The girl of the window
#5: Jun 17th 2024 at 11:09:35 AM

[up] Agree. And apply it to all factions!

Edited by animuacid on Jun 17th 2024 at 8:10:05 PM

Wilben Ashley Since: Nov, 2023
jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
SMILE!
#7: Jun 17th 2024 at 12:10:28 PM

[tup] Suggestions in 2. Some of the other subpages still have this issue as well—for the sake of convenience, can we cover them all here? The consensus is the same every time (pull all) so I can’t imagine it being difficult or confusing.

Edited by jandn2014 on Jun 17th 2024 at 3:10:52 PM

GracieLizzy from Sunderland, UK (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
CanuckMcDuck1 PEPSIMAN from Japan Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
PEPSIMAN
#9: Jun 17th 2024 at 2:30:06 PM

[up][up]Definitely.

Should the other images be put here then, like for example all of the Pacific flags?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/psa.png
Flag of the Second California Republic
Flag of the New Pacifican Republic
Flag of the New Pacifican Republic (Alternate)
Flag of the Sunset Republic
Flag of the Sunset Republic (Alternate)
Flag of the Pacific States of America (Radical Socialist)
Flag of the Pacific States of America (Radical Socialist Alternate)
Flag of the Utopian Hives of the Pacific
Flag of the United States of America (Commonwealth Party)
Flag of the Western States of America
Flag of the Icarian Union of the Pacific
Flag of the Sacred Union of Pacific America
Flag of the Sacred Union of America
Flag of Tomorrowland
Flag of the Free Economic Zone of the Pacific
Flag of the Pacific American Empire
Flag of the Greater American Empire
Flag of the Spiritual Order of the Pacific
Flag of the Spiritual Order of America
Flag of the Japanese Pacific States
Flag of the Japanese Pacific States (Alternate)
Flag of the Japanese Pacific States (Alternate 2)
Flag of the Japanese Pacific States (Alternate 3)
Flag of the Imperial Prefectures of America
Flag of the Dominion of California

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#10: Jun 17th 2024 at 3:57:54 PM

I'm happy to cover them all in one thread if others are. My view's the same:

  • Cut all labelnote flages
  • Add a comment to every page warning against adding multiple images.

If we have any multiple character images, I'd keep them out of scope for the thread - we can consider them separately.

StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
GracieLizzy from Sunderland, UK (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from a place where folks put cream cheese on hot dogs (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#13: Jun 17th 2024 at 4:20:39 PM

I agree with cutting all the labelnote flags.

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Echidna from Ontario, Canada (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Two-timing
#14: Jun 18th 2024 at 8:10:17 AM

[up]x4[tup]

Edited by Echidna on Jun 18th 2024 at 11:10:27 AM

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#15: Jun 19th 2024 at 5:01:25 AM

Pull all labelnote flags across all subpages.

Keet cleanup
Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16: Jun 19th 2024 at 9:27:25 AM

I think the sentiment in the prior threads can carry over here; calling to pull all labelnoted faction flags.

CanuckMcDuck1 PEPSIMAN from Japan Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
PEPSIMAN
#17: Jun 19th 2024 at 9:41:44 AM

I found this hidden note while deleting the extra images.

sort breakaways immediately below parent country

I don’t know who added it, but maybe that’s the reason for all the extra flags?

Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.
Jillogent Since: Apr, 2023
#18: Jun 19th 2024 at 4:26:37 PM

I'm responsible for adding the flags in the American pages. I would like to request to add the important flags back onto the American pages before they all get cut. I know many of the alternate flags are relatively unnecessary, but I would still prefer for some, at least the major and important ones to be restored. I can tell you which one of each of the American pages are important, and I can restore them myself, but I'm just making sure that you allow me to do so at the very least.

Siegfried1337 Calabash. from The Eastern Luminant Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
Calabash.
#19: Jun 19th 2024 at 9:10:04 PM

[up] Can you define which faction happens to be extremely important?

Eh, good enough.
Jillogent Since: Apr, 2023
#20: Jun 19th 2024 at 9:47:52 PM

[up] If you're talking about the American Civil-War factions like the CSA, AUS, and CAR, that have their own separate pages, I'd say they're all important and potential unifiers of the country and are given plenty of content to be major candidates among the Civil-War.

If you're talking about which groups within each nation are important to have their flags be put back up and stay, then I can list them out individually.

CSA: Browderists, Fosterites, Burnhamites, Technocrats, and Caponeists. AUS: Longists, Gundpowder Plot CAR: Old Democratic Party, Fordists, Old and Young Klan, and Militarists. PSA: Visionaries, Norton Dynasty, Spiritualists, and Japanists. New England: Socialists, Radical Coalition, Sons of Liberty, Monarchists, and Lovecraftians.

Overall those above are given their own events, focus trees, reunifications, flags, and are relatively important among their respective nations.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#21: Jun 22nd 2024 at 8:19:33 PM

Still seems like overload to me. We are not a Kaiserredux wiki and "group" pictures are optional to begin with. If smoething needs a long justification for why it's "important" it's probably actually not.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#22: Jun 25th 2024 at 11:57:06 PM

This one's gone a bit quiet.

At this point, unless there's a strong argument that some of the labelnote flags are important to the TVT Characters page (not just useful info for a more general wiki) then there seems to be a broad consensus to cut back to just one image per faction?

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#23: Jun 26th 2024 at 8:40:29 AM

It's been a week or so and the consensus hasn't swung to the "actually let's keep some" direction, so reiterating the prior to call to cut back to one pic per faction.

(Clocking for attention/help with the legwork)

Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 26th 2024 at 11:40:50 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#24: Jun 27th 2024 at 8:55:28 AM

Template for comments:

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%% Labelnote flag images were deleted per Image Pickin' thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=17186464070.75027400
%% Please do not add extra images for any faction, change the current images or delete images without starting a new thread.
%%

How's that?

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#25: Jun 27th 2024 at 9:41:02 AM

Summary of current state, with thanks to the tropers who've done some of these updates:

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 1st 2024 at 6:29:36 PM


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