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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#226: Oct 4th 2024 at 12:15:28 PM

[up]It's a pretty good plan.

We know that a A Dead man (or in this case, dead woman's) spell is hard to break, but this show has demonstrated that it's not impossible. So what's the best way to ensure said spell endures beyond said caster's death?

Make it something that everyone is casting at some point by making it ubiquitous.

Cause when a song is popular enough, you can bet anyone from actual witches to some rich man in a cave with a box of scraps is singing it at some point.

[up] Now I'm imagining Jeff Bridges singing about how much he hates Tony, while somehow including the "Box of Scraps" line.

Obadiah Stane attempts his coup by recording a diss track, attempting to sway public opinion against the Stark name. Unfortunately for him, Tony counters and completely destroys him at rap battling.

Then they both get cancelled by Luke Cage. It's his company now.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 4th 2024 at 1:16:56 PM

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#227: Oct 4th 2024 at 12:28:10 PM

[up] Genius.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#228: Oct 4th 2024 at 12:59:42 PM

Tony then just builds a new company (as he's known to do), while Luke successfully runs Stark Industries, using the tech to help the people of Harlem.

Stane just !@#$'s off, because he's a dick.

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NotGrantMorrison Since: Jul, 2014
#229: Oct 5th 2024 at 4:44:44 PM

>There's clearly a difference between fancy high-power CGI magic and more low-key practical magic and I feel like it would be helpful if they spelled that out a bit more.

Teen brought that up. The CGI stuff is the kind of magick that Wanda took from Agatha and that Jennifer had bound.

The other magic is the "hard work" magic Teen suggested they use. Manual Magick" I think he called it.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#230: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:45:00 AM

Honestly I am enjoying this show way more than I expected so far. The Witch lore is genuinely interesting, the coven is hilariously disfunctional, th

Aubery/Rio's energy is phenomenal and I am so here for it. That introduction was just -chef's kiss-

Her consistent trolling of Agatha also puts a nice spoke in the group's wheels - like ok this girl's clearly effing batshit and we shouldn't trust her, but we also don't trust Agatha and even Agatha doesn't trust her... which makes her trustworthy in this situation. Also she gives two flips about being on the witch equivalent of a death march. Heck she seems amused by it.

"Aubrey Plaza didn't actually audition for this show. She just kind of came out of the ground, thought it looked fun, stuck around and ad-libbed."

Kathryn Hahn's body language hell the body language of the entire cast is gripping. Agatha's perfectly fine being naked in front of a community but the way she pulls her jacket closed the moment Rio walks in the room, firmly tells her no when she's behind her, just straight up loses her patience when she's present.

This show's a narrative palate cleanser after Joker Folie A Deux.

Edited by FOFD on Oct 9th 2024 at 12:17:20 PM

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#231: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:56:38 AM

[up] From what I hear, apparently that movie didn't exactly nail its musical aspects all too well. Goes to show how smart and talented the composers for both this show and WandaVision are. And also how hard it is to do superhero musical stuff.

Hell, I'd argue that Rogers: The Musical was an example of a superhero musical not working very well.

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#232: Oct 9th 2024 at 9:56:38 AM

Wasn't Rogers: The Musical bad on purpose?

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#233: Oct 9th 2024 at 10:27:39 AM

Bad on purpose is still just bad.

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#234: Oct 9th 2024 at 11:02:13 AM

True, but something that was bad on purpose and is actually bad means they succeeded.

Rogers: The Musical is supposed to be awkward and cringey. It's not supposed to work. Hell, it's not even real. It's just one awkward scene in another series. Comparing it to actual works on an even level is kind of missing the point.

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#235: Oct 9th 2024 at 11:24:46 AM

Well, it's kind of real. They performed it at the Hyperion in Disneyland over this summer, although I never had the chance to see it.

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#236: Oct 9th 2024 at 5:11:36 PM

Rio's last name "Vidal" is an anagram from "Advil."

The summoning worked.

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#237: Oct 9th 2024 at 6:25:50 PM

WELL ALICE IS DEAD. THIS TOOK ANOTHER TURN.

Aaaaaaand Teen is Wiccan. And he’s betrayed the coven.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Oct 9th 2024 at 9:27:56 AM

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#238: Oct 9th 2024 at 7:21:08 PM

I called Teen being Billy and this means that the other leak might also be right.

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#239: Oct 9th 2024 at 7:39:50 PM

Holy fucking shit, what was that ending? And I figured Teen was Billy, but I certainly wasn't expecting that reveal so soon! Or that Agatha knew!

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#240: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:01:13 PM

oH S Hiiiiiiit Teen is actually kind of incredibly powerful, huh

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#241: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:08:26 PM

Shit done hit the fan

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#242: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:10:02 PM

Teen is legit scary. Why was he all panicked about fighting the witch monsters earlier lmao

Also how did Agatha figure out who he is

Edited by blkwhtrbbt on Oct 9th 2024 at 10:10:29 AM

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#243: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:10:37 PM

Next episode seems to be a Teen Flashback episode.

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#244: Oct 9th 2024 at 9:01:48 PM

Agatha probably figured it out from his power. I'm sure she knew from the beginning. Dr. Strange in Avengers: Infinity War indicated that breaking the spell of a dead caster is incredibly difficult. Possibly, but extremely hard. In the first episode, Billy - a teenage novice practitioner, mind you - broke a spell cast by the Scarlet Witch.

WandaVision established Wanda to be a legendary omega-times-infinity super-mage of prophecy whose magic is the greatest magic that has ever magicked. Multiverse of Madness backed that up when her insane omni-power massacred all of Kamar-Taj and made the Sorcerer Supreme (both of them) look like useless toads. Her magic is beyond compare, her spells are more powerful than any spell has ever been, and this pubescent little dumpster fart of an apprentice broke one of them. Which is the whole reason Agatha agreed to bring him along; She was impressed by that specific achievement.

How many kids his age do you think are capable of that?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 9th 2024 at 10:02:20 AM

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#245: Oct 9th 2024 at 9:06:27 PM

Im astonished she didnt think to weaponise him then

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#246: Oct 9th 2024 at 9:51:28 PM

I was wondering if it was all an illusion or something. But nope. Alice is dead, and Teen's totally Wiccan.

Where was Rio during all that? She just disappeared.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#247: Oct 9th 2024 at 11:02:31 PM

Might need a rewatch but this episode felt like it was zooming through character development, shifting allegiances, and reveals.

  • the Salem Seven are the threat
  • then it's the group turning on Agatha
  • then it's Zombatha Harkness
  • then it's the trial manifesting Agatha's mom and it seems like Agatha is having genuine emotions here
  • but apparently that both these things were Agatha effing around even though she currently lacks magic so she could bait Alice into giving her magic through Agatha's absorption shield
  • Agatha actually seems disturbed by Alice's death
  • Then she baits Teen who is Wanda's son? Did we abandon her previous concern for him because Rio told her that it wasn't her son?

And what happened to Rio at the end, she just... stayed in the house?

Agatha seriously pretended to be Mrs. Hart just to mess with everybody there? The earlier callousness was funny/helpful toward them advancing/characteristic. This just seemed more like a petty Take That, Audience! if you thought Mrs. Hart was coming back into the story.

I'm not sure if these are plot holes or clever Red Herring's. I have to hand it to this show - not only is it beating every other Marvel streaming show I've seen, but I genuinely do not know what's happening. More than even Wandavision.

Edited by FOFD on Oct 10th 2024 at 11:12:15 AM

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#248: Oct 9th 2024 at 11:15:51 PM

I have so many questions about episode five but since some of you already ask, I'll just ask the most important one: If Teen is really Billy then how did he come back to life again and he grew up fast since he didn't exist before? I hope the next episode answers it. Also, did you guys notice that Wanda Vision theme song starts playing when Agatha says to Teen that he looks so much like his mother? And one more thing: I heard it was oblivious to you guys that Teen is Scarlet Witch's son but how did you guys know?

Edited by Bubblepig on Oct 9th 2024 at 11:19:22 AM

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grimorie121 Since: Sep, 2014
#249: Oct 10th 2024 at 1:29:22 AM

[up][up] I honestly think Agatha's powers are very much like Rogue's absorption powers but, in a way, a little worse because every time she absorbs powers, it feels like a drug.

She can't control it, once she's attacked— Agatha's magic-absorbing powers are on automatic.

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#250: Oct 10th 2024 at 8:04:05 AM

Also, I went ahead and made a page for Jac Schaeffer.

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