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LarryMullen Since: May, 2015
#1: Apr 29th 2024 at 3:47:27 PM

I hope this is the right place for this thread. I'm trying to create a list of characters who are considered both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards. I've only come up with four so far:

I'm sure there must be more so any help will be appreciated.

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#3: Apr 30th 2024 at 8:35:43 AM

whats C Ms and M Bs mean?

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Kahran042 The Topic Slayer from New Hampshire Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#4: Apr 30th 2024 at 9:26:51 AM

Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards.

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#5: Apr 30th 2024 at 10:30:59 AM

I don't believe this thread is a good idea. I fear this might lead to fighting over which characters deserve to be Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards.

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#6: Apr 30th 2024 at 1:48:42 PM

[up] Yeah, this thread is just a gigantic attempt at bypassing the proper threads for this.

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#7: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:41:03 PM

I know that at least one attempt to list characters that qualified as both was cut by mods because they feared it would encourage the "Badge of honour" mentality about these tropes.

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LarryMullen Since: May, 2015
#8: Apr 30th 2024 at 6:33:40 PM

I want to make it perfectly clear that this thread is not meant for arguing about who should qualify. It's merely an attempt to find examples that currently do qualify. Just a fun, trivia-based exercise. No more, no less.

ChicoTheParakeet Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9: May 1st 2024 at 12:14:54 AM

Death Note’s Light Yagami feels like an obvious answer but nobody has said it yet. He’s incredibly smart and resourceful in pursuit of his ideal world but his methods are manipulative and horrifying.

I really hope this thread doesn’t devolve into fighting. They’re specific tropes that can overlap but I don’t know if it should belong in the “Trope Talk” forums. I also think it would be best to mention Complete Monster and Magnificat Bastard in the trash’ thread’s title.

Edited by ChicoTheParakeet on May 1st 2024 at 3:21:45 PM

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#10: May 1st 2024 at 12:18:57 AM

...Except he's not an MB.

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ChicoTheParakeet Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11: May 1st 2024 at 12:30:38 AM

Fair, he does have trouble thinking quickly and is constantly under stress.

While you’re entitled to and I accept your contrasting thought, I think this might be what the people questioning this thread are talking about.

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#12: May 1st 2024 at 12:33:07 AM

...I wasn't sharing an opinion. Light isn't labeled a Magnificent Bastard. I also have zero horse in the race beyond a factual correction.

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AnotherOnlinePersona Killed by Chills from Harlequin Forest Since: Dec, 2022
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#14: May 1st 2024 at 1:36:51 PM

The Joker in The Dark Knight is an interesting case where he's labeled a CM in the movie proper but an MB in the novelization due to his personality being tweaked a little.

Edited by AnotherOnlinePersona on May 1st 2024 at 1:37:16 AM

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#15: May 1st 2024 at 7:30:28 PM

Please keep discussion about who does or doesn't qualify for Complete Monster and/or Magnificent Bastard in those tropes' own threads. Locking.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 1st 2024 at 9:36:51 AM

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