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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#4501: Sep 28th 2025 at 12:19:02 PM

The division of DC dealing with Fortnite might've had no idea the meaning the division of DC creating the series was intending.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Effect7 Since: Jun, 2023
#4502: Sep 28th 2025 at 12:25:38 PM

[up] yeah that's more or less why I said maybe.

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#4503: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:10:21 PM

But why maybe? Why is there even any doubt? Are we supposed to believe the DC side of the negotiations knew it was a nazi hint, but never said anything about it? Or that the Fortnite side knew and thought it would be super fun to recall it once the episodes got to a certain point?

You and I remember Budapest very differently
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#4504: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:18:01 PM

Because Warner often behaves in illogical ways.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#4505: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:20:36 PM

Yea, illogical by not having the marketing/licensing people double check with the production people about the dance before signing off on it.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#4506: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:24:52 PM

To be honest is the kind of thing it's difficult to suspect. Production should've been open about it to the rest of divisions from the start.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#4507: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:42:43 PM

Why would they? Its a secret twist, telling everyone tends to ruin that kind of stuff.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Effect7 Since: Jun, 2023
#4508: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:56:14 PM

I mean I have heard James Gunn did not do test screening for the episode although I think he did show the episode to some specific people? I just recently heard he said that somewhere I think in an article that came out where he said that nobody did not notice anything off until the twist happened.

But yeah he did kept the twist under wraps.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4509: Sep 28th 2025 at 2:05:44 PM

Reminder that not all audiences are internet and trope savvy.

So its a good thing Gunn didn't try to pull the wool on his own twist just to trick the people who figured it out.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#4510: Sep 28th 2025 at 2:06:15 PM

Exactly, it was kept underwraps. Nobody involved in the Fortnite deal knew about the details and thought it was just a goofy dance move from the opening credits.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4511: Sep 28th 2025 at 3:31:48 PM

Finally actually watched the movie. It's hilarious that Lex claims to be scared of Superman when that is clearly not the case. He is a bully, and bullies aren't likely to bully someone they believe would maim or kill them for it.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4513: Sep 28th 2025 at 3:45:46 PM

Guy needs to go through something that will have him begging Superman to rescue him.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#4514: Sep 28th 2025 at 3:53:59 PM

Luthor is basically using a lot of Double Think to justify both his grudge against Superman and why the guy doesn't just splat him.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Effect7 Since: Jun, 2023
#4515: Sep 28th 2025 at 3:56:19 PM

[up][up] for some reason I can see that happening and then afterwards he pretends like he wasn't begging and make up some excuse to look tough or whatever but nobody isn't buying it lol.

Edited by Effect7 on Sep 28th 2025 at 3:56:37 AM

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4516: Sep 28th 2025 at 3:58:41 PM

He doesn't want to be reduced to a helpless puny earthling that needs rescue. Never mind that there are plenty of Superman stories that subvert the Puny Earthlings trope. Like how the Daily Planet crew saved Superman's reputation by exposing Lex Luthor as the villain.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4517: Sep 28th 2025 at 4:02:56 PM

Ego is really the one big thing to guide Lex Luthor along... which, you know, the man is literally Superman's arch-nemesis. Kind of a given.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4518: Sep 28th 2025 at 4:04:49 PM

So, what personality disorders does Lex have? Narcissistic or Antisocial? Can you have both? Maybe Borderline for the pre crisis Lex?

Edited by bookworm6390 on Sep 28th 2025 at 6:09:49 AM

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#4519: Sep 28th 2025 at 4:56:07 PM

[up] Possibly none at all. You can be an evil asshole without having a diagnosable personality disorder.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4520: Sep 28th 2025 at 5:03:49 PM

Why does this Superman seem highly unlikely to pull the Red Eyes, Take Warning to almost kill Lex? Other than the fact he didn't do that in this movie despite all the awful stuff this Lex did.

Effect7 Since: Jun, 2023
#4521: Sep 28th 2025 at 6:23:24 PM

[up] because he's not Henry Cavill's Superman? Who actually did that to his Lex when he showed pictures of Martha being held captive, which there may be something subjective there when Superman's family is actually threatened.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#4522: Sep 28th 2025 at 9:48:11 PM

I was thinking of DCAU Superman. Though that one knew an alternate version had murdered Lex after Lex had killed the Flash.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4523: Sep 29th 2025 at 5:29:21 AM

[up][up][up] Perhaps part of that is the room allowed in for Alternate Character Interpretation, regarding the scene where Superman's seen freaking out about losing Krypto the Dog. That dog being Kara's, the scene could be viewed as Superman being all "BITCH, I'M FREAKING OUT FOR YOUR SAKE, WHERE'S THE DOG?!?"

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#4524: Sep 29th 2025 at 7:15:59 AM

I remember making that joke way back.

"LEX I AM ASKING FOR YOUR SAKE!! YOU DO NOT WANT KARA ANGRY AT YOU!!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4525: Sep 29th 2025 at 7:18:19 AM

Jeeez Luthor's mooks really are a pack of depraved psychos

This guy was asking about the status of the employees inside the building that Ultraman lasered. When it was confirmed that there were no fatalities, his response was 'Can't win 'em all.'

Like...goddamn, bro. Who hurt you?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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