Reddit post
: Someone noticed that in the background of the image with Alastor and Lucifer, there are golden sculptures of the dead Egg Boiz.
It might be either that he’s put on trial, accused of being a spy from Hell sent to infiltrate Heaven, or if Sera wants to keep his ascension a secret, maybe to keep him prisoner somewhere.
He does look like he’s pleading in the screenshot…
Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Aug 27th 2025 at 10:52:24 AM
My AO3 profile. Let sleeping cats lie and be cute and calming.
Whatever is the option is, Sara is in complete denial mode about redemption being possible for sinners if she is the one who ordered Sir Pentious to be chained up.
I think the curious thing about it is the order between that and the song with Emily, St Peter and Abel. Like is the song before or after Sir Pentious's imprisonment or trial?
if it is before the trial, it means that Abel, Emily and St. peter accepted Sir pentious pretty well, if it is after, the same result
that was pretty much a given and with Abel it seems he's not going be like his father, Adam.
You know what would be cool? If they explored how Vaggie felt about the other Exorcists and vice versa. Kinda strange that Vaggie didn't seem to show any hesitation about killing the other Exorcists when she was a part of them for so long up until that fateful Extermination. My assumption until we get more details is that there was mutual animosity: The other Exorcists because Vaggie was the top dog of the group and would get more praise from Adam than they got, and Vaggie had a smug attitude about it, thinking that the other Exorcists couldn't keep up with her.
Reddit post
: Viv expresses her hype for Season 3 of Hazbin.
Reposting this comment since I accidentally sent this on a different thread:
Do people prefer Adam as this Jerk with a Heart of Gold type of character calling out why Charlie's plan to get sinners into heaven is very stupid?
Like actually pointing out that one of the biggest issues surrounding it is how would the victims of those for victimized by the sinners when they were alive react to them getting into heaven?
Adam doesn't have any good intentions whatsoever. His drive to kill Sinners is fueled entirely by bloodlust and sadism, not any actual sense of whether Charlie's idea has merit. Anyone claiming that he is at any point bringing up reasonable rebuttals of Charlie's arguments is severely misinterpreting the show's themes.
As for the other thing, that is in no way Charlie's problem. People's individual reaction to Sinners getting into Heaven doesn't change that the whole system is corrupt. The whole point is that anyone "deserving" to be in either Heaven or Hell is extremely arbitrary and (as far as we yet know) almost random, and needs to be changed.
Wenn sie die Ente hierein lassen, lasse ich das Wasser hieraus!I'm completely fine with Adam just being a complete twat. There are more nuanced, Well-Intentioned Extremists like Sera already.
I see. To be fair the fics that are in the recommendation for HH involving Adam did kinda had him written as this Jerk with a Heart of Gold guy but also written something about Charlie being in the wrong somehow on redemption like it's some critique.
I'm going to be fair, I do like the fics about a Sinner Adam trying to earn redemption to get back into Heaven, or at least the ones where he's still an Angel and has to work with the Hazbin Hotel crew for one reason or another. They really do add a lot to his character, and they're the reason why I'm really hoping that they bring back Adam as a Sinner to expand his character than what we got with season one.
However, the fics about Adam that are just there to dickride him and the message is just "HELL SUCKS! ADAM ROCKS! HELL SUCKS! ADAM ROCKS!", those tend to bring out the most INSUFFERABLE people around, especially in the comments section.
I was in a Discord server that was centered around Adam once. And a good chunk of those people (who were also the most vocal ones there) HATED just about everything about the show, hated Vivziepop's writing, but they all LOVED Adam, wanting him to purge Hell of the Sinners because Sinners as a population are filled with terrible people by default, and wanted Lucifer and Lilith to get punished for shit they did in the Bible but we don't know the full context of in the show. That server was just toxic for the most part man.
Edited by AFan on Sep 3rd 2025 at 10:24:51 AM
One common critique I heard from these people was that since redemption had never been tried before until Charlie came along, that meant that either redemption wasn't possible at all or that the Sinners just didn't want to be redeemed. Which is like, how was the idea of redemption even supposed to get off the ground when no one even seemed to try to help in the first place? They laughed off Charlie's pitch of the redemption hotel because they all thought it was impossible, because their environment never made that a possibility to consider. It would be like criticizing the Wright Brothers and calling them stupid for making their plane because "Humans were never meant to fly and be up in the sky! If we were, we would all have wings like the birds do!"
Exactly! The reason nobody has tried to redeem Sinners or that no Sinner has tried to redeem themselves is because nobody thought that it was possible. I'm sure plenty a Sinner has wanted to redeem themselves beforehand since, as demonstrated, not all Sinners are terrible people (Just a lot of them are). But how were they supposed to know that it was, in fact, possible when they've only ever been told by everyone around them that if you're in Hell, that's it for you and you're doomed forever?
Alastor said as much in the pilot: Hell is the Sinners' punishment. If they'd wanted to become better people, they would've done so when they were alive. They had their chance, and they blew it. Everyone believed this until Charlie came along, and even then, she was heckled and treated like a dumbass for wanting to believe that anyone can become a better person if they try.
All revolutionaries have had their critics who have booed, sneered at and mocked them for trying to do "the impossible." And Charlie is a revolutionary in that, as naïve as she's been and as misguided as her "redemption exercises" were, she refused to let people tell her that she should give up... and that paid off, because we now have definitive proof in-show that Sinners can be redeemed.
Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Sep 3rd 2025 at 7:39:50 PM
My AO3 profile. Let sleeping cats lie and be cute and calming.I'd rather watch a video of someone saying everything wrong with Hazbin Hotel and trash-talking all the characters... than watch a video of the same thing, but they give Adam and the exorcists credit. Because the first one is... more or less tolerable because he's not being clearly biased in this universe... the other 100% would be able to say how all the characters (even CHARLIE) are shit and how the clear, self-centered, genocidal egoist who wants everyone to adore him and isn't capable of loving anyone (except the other murderous psychopath) is actually a hero.
Ready for the biggest surprises?Well, Adam proves one thing right and that is "Even if you go to Heaven, that doesn't actually make you incapable of being a bad person."
Kind a like the reverse of Hell where "Going to Hell doesn't make you incapable of being a GOOD person".
The gift of free will is still a thing even after death it seems, regardless of where the soul goes.
"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."

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Also, Vox instead of using his powers to mind control Val, he calms him down by talking, and Val does not his moth powers
Ready for the biggest surprises?