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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#276: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:19:55 PM

Well at least that animator got a great payday from the commission

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 14th 2024 at 7:20:07 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#277: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:32:25 PM

Apparently the commission bankrupt Verbalase and ruined his channel.

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
#278: Jan 14th 2024 at 8:58:13 PM

I’ve now seen the fan animation in question… did not know what I was expecting.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:58:45 AM

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#279: Jan 14th 2024 at 9:01:53 PM

I heard he used his own company's money.

Also, some people pointed out some shots in the video that looked like they were traced from parts of the pilot, so the guy got ripped off anyway. He should have just paid for a bunch of commissions with all that money like a normal person.

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#280: Jan 14th 2024 at 9:19:44 PM

[up][up] Ngl, when I heard the news I thought he'd get seduced by Angel Dust lmao.

Snoketrope Barb / Temporary Kylo from California Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#281: Jan 14th 2024 at 10:26:01 PM

I think I have learned to avoid Hazbin stuff on twitter. That place is just at war with Viz and anything connected to her.

Edited by Snoketrope on Jan 14th 2024 at 10:26:20 AM

Bow to the Prototype
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#282: Jan 14th 2024 at 10:29:17 PM

I don't know anything about this show, but even I heard about the video commission.

Weird shit.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#283: Jan 14th 2024 at 10:35:46 PM

[up][up] Don't forget to avoid Tumblr too

There is a particular grifting critic of Viv's work on that site that's so utterly pathetic

I won't name them, but they have a pfp of Moxxie having an orgasm. All their posts are extremely negative scrutinizing of Viv's every doing. They also agreed with the allegations of a certain former Spindlehorse employee, believes the abuse allegations about Spindlehorse and Viv's treatment of the staff from an anonymous company review site, and almost always believes Viv is 100% to blame whenever a controversy happens.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 15th 2024 at 2:37:11 AM

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#284: Jan 14th 2024 at 11:04:08 PM

The current controversy is not great, but I think it's worth seeing the clip in context before catastrophizing.

I don't know how context will possibly redeem it at this point, but hey, I'm open to seeing.

EDIT: I think a big issue is Viv keeps feeding the trolls. She doesn't know how to get off the internet and focus on herself and her work. No matter what happens she just keeps showing them how much they get under her skin, and that's the worst thing you can do around trolls.

Edited by PhiSat on Jan 14th 2024 at 12:06:28 PM

Oissu!
MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#285: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:21:12 AM

[up] Unfortunately, I think her hatedom and troll army has grown to the point where ANYTHING she does is ”feeding” them, even if she does nothing.

She responds to the ”controversies”? They use that as ammunition and ”proof” that they’re right and thus are ”justified” in continuing to stalk, harass and bully her.

She ignores them? They use THAT as ammunition and ”proof” that they’re right and thus are ”justified” in continuing to stalk, harass and bully her.

At this point, she just can’t win. These people have made it their life mission to destroy her life and career just because they can, and they’ll use any and every method and excuse they can think of in order to do so.

Remember, she’s had to put up with this SINCE SHE WAS A TEENAGER, like for the better part of a decade and a half(?) - Such a relentless bullying campaign WILL get to you sooner or later.

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Jan 15th 2024 at 9:23:42 PM

My AO3 profile. Let sleeping cats lie and be cute and calming.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#286: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:32:11 AM

So uh, I'm very uninitiated here. I could have sworn this show was out before 2024. My sister showed me a You Tube video of an episode.

Something about running a company that kills people.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CheapMarzipan A Low Cost Confection Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
A Low Cost Confection
#287: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:34:28 AM

[up] You’re thinking of Helluva Boss. Hazbin’s sister show that takes place in the same shared universe. It’s on Vivziepop’s You Tube channel.

As is the Hazbin Hotel pilot episode, though I think that’s non-canon to the main series.

Edited by CheapMarzipan on Jan 15th 2024 at 2:37:14 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#288: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:39:13 AM

Huh.

I could have SWORN people were talking about this show like it was already out back in like 2022.

There were some clips of musical parts I saw. Ah well.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#289: Jan 15th 2024 at 3:45:11 AM

> So apparently some guy paid an animator 50 thousand dollars to animate a music video of Charlie stalking, chasing, and raping the guy's sona.

before anyone gets any funny ideas,don't post it here!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#290: Jan 15th 2024 at 3:46:41 AM

[up] Sure

Though, I did watch the video and...it's still less risque than the stuff we see in the actual Hellaverse

GanSaibou Since: Nov, 2019
#291: Jan 15th 2024 at 5:26:43 AM

[up][up][up] It's had a really impressive fandom for a show that just had a pilot for several years. There are three songs in the pilot, and also a music video of a fan song featuring a pilot VA. It' understandable that it felt like it was alreaady out, in addition to confusing with Helluva Boss.

Edited by GanSaibou on Jan 15th 2024 at 10:54:19 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#292: Jan 15th 2024 at 6:16:26 AM

Interesting.

So that's why people were talking about it like it was out. I was really confused when I saw comments like "Wow, she likes Hazbin Hotel despite it being about redeeming sinners? Big surprise."

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jan 15th 2024 at 10:16:36 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#293: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:11:38 PM

When is Hazbin Hotel meant to be coming out officially?

"May your heart be your guiding key"
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#294: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:14:48 PM

First five episodes come out January 19th.

Oissu!
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#295: Jan 15th 2024 at 12:19:39 PM

[up] I think it's only the first four isn't it?

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#296: Jan 15th 2024 at 1:32:30 PM

Saberspark just did a video on the Verbalase thing.

Angelspawndragon King of the Seven Rhinos from That haunted house in your neighborhood Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
King of the Seven Rhinos
#297: Jan 15th 2024 at 2:50:54 PM

Going back to the “first episodes” thing a page back, something that is really important to keep in mind is that first seasons of any show, regardless of animation or live-action, is very, very rarely going to knock it out of the park. This doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be bad, but rather that it’s an inevitable result of getting something new off the ground. After all, the first season has to juggle with a (presumably) new cast and crew getting to know and work well with one another, and lay down all the groundwork for future seasons to build off on, and doing all of that well is often easier said than done.

As far as I’m concerned, if it’s just ok and enjoyable, that’s perfectly fine. I’d still happily watch and support it.

Side note: saw a 40 second clip of Alastor surprising Lucifer by teleporting (or well more like doing the shadow movement thing) behind him (no doubt the scene in question is Lucifer showing up to your the hotel himself), which makes me wonder if Alastor is actually some kind of Eldritch Abomination, or Lucifer just really underestimates him for some reason. Because I can’t imagine THE fallen angel ruling Hell for long if any old demon could that easily get the drop on him.

Edited by Angelspawndragon on Jan 15th 2024 at 2:51:47 AM

Chain an angry nature god at your own peril.
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#298: Jan 15th 2024 at 3:05:29 PM

True. First seasons of most properties tend to be a little rocky and need a bit to find their footing. There's some exceptions (property starts strong then crashes and burns), but those are exceptions and not the norm.

Oissu!
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#299: Jan 15th 2024 at 6:39:01 PM

Honestly I think it would be more interesting if Lucifer were just incredibly lax about getting surprised. He's the unkillable supreme overlord of Hell. Why would he need to watch his back? Being hyper vigilant just seems like it would be exhausting.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015

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