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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#1: Jul 12th 2023 at 3:40:37 PM

Because the definition was changed to an In-Universe Examples Only trope about characters' opinions by TRS, this no longer demonstrates the trope (if indeed it ever did).

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/black_square_0.png
"True art? Yeah, right, next you're going to tell me this isn't a square."

Suggestion:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ch_misspelled_weltanschauung.png

Edited by StarSword on Jul 12th 2023 at 6:40:49 AM

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MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#2: Jul 12th 2023 at 4:53:57 PM

Yes to pulling the current, but [tdown] to the suggestion. It's a bit too Talking Heads for my liking.

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#3: Jul 12th 2023 at 5:00:47 PM

Keep. NRLEP tropes can have real life images, as we just saw with The Alliance. IUEO, not NRLEP, but I think the point still stands. And we have way too many C&H images already.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Jul 12th 2023 at 8:38:39 AM

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#5: Jul 12th 2023 at 5:34:07 PM

[up][up]To say again: NRLEP is not the issue (I don't think the trope even is NRLEP, just IUEO), the problem is that the trope definition has been rewritten to be about a character's opinions of what constitutes "true art", which the image doesn't express.

Edited by StarSword on Jul 12th 2023 at 8:37:58 AM

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#6: Jul 12th 2023 at 5:54:19 PM

Panels 2+4?

(I don't really care much for the current, anyway. It isn't incomprehensible. It's a square.)

[down] I'll grant "too texty", but it does contain visual elements.

Edited by Noaqiyeum on Jul 12th 2023 at 3:10:47 PM

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#7: Jul 12th 2023 at 7:03:24 PM

[up] Current was selected by thread. All the suggestions are too texty, and don't contain any visual elements.

Keep current.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jul 13th 2023 at 11:57:55 AM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#8: Jul 12th 2023 at 7:14:30 PM

Pull regardless of replacement.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#9: Jul 12th 2023 at 8:05:24 PM

IUEO permits Real Life examples if applicable. Thus, keep.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#10: Jul 12th 2023 at 8:08:37 PM

Alternate suggestion that I wasn't sure if I could make work initially.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/calvin_and_hobbes_true_art_is_incomprehensible_0.png

Edited by StarSword on Jul 12th 2023 at 11:12:31 AM

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from a place where folks put cream cheese on hot dogs (Oldest One in the Book)
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#11: Jul 12th 2023 at 8:09:55 PM

The confused face of the viewer in the current makes me think it's good enough to keep until better image is suggested.

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Earnest (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12: Jul 12th 2023 at 8:49:19 PM

I'm still fine with keep, but went through the examples in case something rang a bell. In the process I went through and replaced the links in the web comics section with Archive.org ones since most of the originals are dead links (I'll check the other ones in a bit). Out of those I think the Weregeek and Lozers examples might work.

12.1 Lozers
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/true_art_is_incomprehensible_lozers.png
12.2 Weregeek
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/true_art_is_incomprehensible_weregeek.png

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#14: Jul 13th 2023 at 7:05:37 AM

I'm good to keep the current

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#16: Jul 13th 2023 at 11:15:15 AM

Not too fond of the current at all, but barring any better suggestions, keep.

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#17: Jul 13th 2023 at 1:39:39 PM
Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#18: Jul 13th 2023 at 1:52:20 PM

Earnest - Oh, I went looking for those myself but wasn't able to find them, thank you for restoring the links!

I did manage to find some screenshots from the example listed under Pinky and the Brain ("Pinkasso") - two that work the same way as the current, two others showing the bizarre art being acclaimed in gallery reviews. The quality I found was too poor, but someone else might have better luck.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:05:34 PM

just about half of this comic by Malaka Gharib for NPR (updated with panel spacing per request)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/npr_art.png

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 14th 2023 at 11:14:44 AM

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#20: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:09:59 PM

Keep current. It IS an in-universe example judging by the guy's confused expression.

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Inky100 Ragdoll used for creepy stuff from The virtual horror factory Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#21: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:15:46 PM

[up][up][tup] Because the incomprehension in that extract is clearer than in the current (honestly, I can't really see the guy's expression).

Edited by Inky100 on Jul 13th 2023 at 11:16:03 AM

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from a place where folks put cream cheese on hot dogs (Oldest One in the Book)
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#22: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:57:29 PM

19 works.

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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