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Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#1: Jun 27th 2023 at 4:02:19 AM

Right now it's just a "Proof of Concept" video, but it's a very good "Proof of Concept" video, created with the Unreal Engine.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 27th 2023 at 5:23:17 PM

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#2: Jun 27th 2023 at 7:44:53 AM

I was wondering what it had to do with 40K's race of Terminators.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the answer is nothing and they'll have to change that name to avoid the wrath of Geedubs' legal.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#3: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:04:06 AM

Wait a minute.

...Is this supposed to be a reboot/reimagining/sequel of the DreamWorks movie Small Soldiers? Because if it isn't, they might want to do some name changing or have some talks with DW, because otherwise there might be some ceasing and desisting in the near future.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 27th 2023 at 11:38:46 AM

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#4: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:05:43 AM

the lawyers are going to eat them alive basically

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:09:58 AM

Is this related to Small Soldiers the killer action figure movie with Kirsten Dunst? WOW there’s a blast from the past if so! First PG-13 I ever saw! [lol]

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#6: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:18:23 AM

[up] That's what I'm wondering, but my Spider-Sense is telling me that it's possible the artist's thought process was "hey, no one's really using the term "Small Soldiers", so I should be fine to use it for my own thing!"

And someone probably didn't tell them that lawyers are a thing that exist.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#7: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:33:13 AM

Actually, yeah, I think it is connected. The two factions of living toys are called the Space Elite and Necronites; in the movie, they’re the Commando Elite and Gorgonites. That’s definitely well over the “either an actual tie-in or blatant intentional plagiarism” line.

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#8: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:36:51 AM

its very clearly inspired by Small soldiers

Commando Elite = Space Elite

Gorgonite = Necronites

This is an outrage against Luminara!
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#9: Jun 27th 2023 at 8:37:53 AM

My rename suggestions would be Infinitesimal Infantry, Tiny Troopers and Miniature Marines.

It is unfortunate Puny Privates would not work for obvious reasons, I do find those words kinda innately fun to say. Wee Warriors would be laughed at even by children.

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#10: Jun 27th 2023 at 9:15:22 AM

Possible name drama aside, (its a very clear sequel or reboot concept) what's everyone's thoughts on the content, because I was blown away.

The toys move so well, they all have very cool designs and the story on the back of the Necronite leader's box sounds very interesting.

Honestly if it ever gets fully developed, I'd like to see the Space Elite avoid the fate of Chip Hazard, and realize, like Moriarty did, with the help of the Necronite leader, that they don't have to follow the script written for their toyline.

It could be their "No more hiding" moment

Oh, and they could just call them "Toy Troopers", if they have to.
That or Action Fighters.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 27th 2023 at 8:50:38 PM

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#11: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:30:56 AM

Possible name drama aside, (its a very clear sequel or reboot concept)
That was my initial assumption, but the lack of any mention of the rights holder in the credits leads me to assume otherwise...unless it turns out their legal department also failed to mention they should be putting the owner's logo on publicly-released material or (much more unlikely to me) they actually do own the rights to the name Small Soldiers and again legal didn't say they should note that in the credits...though I confess I don't know who actually does, I'm just assuming it would be Universal.

But yes, the trailer was extremely impressive, I've seen other proof of concept cinematics that were certainly made with far less care, though granted I don't think the ones I have in mind were ever released for marketing.

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#13: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:34:47 AM

I'm not sure about this. The fun part of Small soldiers is Tommy Lee Jones and a bunch of awesome action movie stars (plus 90's starlets sarah Michele gellar and Christina Ricci) haming it up. Without them I dunno if this is that interesting a concept.

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Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#14: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:35:51 AM

I don't think Necron is a copyrighted name though?

It was also the name of a character in Wizards.

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#15: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:36:27 AM

Plus the bad guy of Fire & Ice. It's a pretty common villain name.

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#16: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:48:13 AM

To be fair, those are comparatively ancient films where Geedubs wasn't as big and they would definitely have nothing to gain by being litigious over them even if they did succeed. Also, I'd think they'd have to a kerfuffle over that with 20th Century Studios, who is owned by Disney, which surely would be insanity for them to even contemplate.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#17: Jun 27th 2023 at 1:15:30 PM

Wait a second, this thread is in the video game forum, and I know it's animated with a video game engine, but is this a video game? The video description sounds like it's a trailer for a movie.

Hey there, YouTube community! We are happy to announce the Proof of Concept trailer for our next big project at Comadran Studios. Get ready to dive into the extraordinary world of Small Soldiers, an epic toy battle brought to life in Unreal Engine 5, pushing the boundaries of cinematic storytelling to new heights!

Comadran Studios apparently does both games and movies, which doesn't help.

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#18: Jun 27th 2023 at 1:36:50 PM

There might be a level of inter-genre connectivity there with the Space Elites being the future successors of the Commando Elite line: especially in-regards to the 2nd Space Elite shown in the lineup with the buzzsaw back arms looking suspiciously like Nick Nitro.

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#19: Jun 27th 2023 at 1:48:42 PM

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I wasn't sure myself, so I just put it here on account of the fact that it was made with a game engine. We'll see what exactly they have in mind for it later as it develops.

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That's my thinking as well.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 27th 2023 at 9:49:35 AM

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#20: Jun 27th 2023 at 2:03:13 PM

Moved the thread to the Western Animation section as requested.

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Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#21: Jun 27th 2023 at 3:02:04 PM

In the future, I should probably consult someone, other than a mental coinflip, before making one of these.

Anyway, I like how the story seems to be going for a more complex tale, as the original film had the Commandos be the deranged soldier antagonists and the Gorgonites a group of peaceful explorers cast as villains. Here the Necronite characters appear just as willing to fight as the Space Elite, with only their leader being reluctant to do so.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jun 27th 2023 at 1:14:11 PM

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#22: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:03:02 PM

If you paid any attention to the box art, details are shown: such as the silver-haired Space Elite leader is Ray Razor who is a Platoon Commander, or that the Necronite Leaders' name is Khadenn, but was formerly known as Caden Cannon: Ray Razors' brother who suffered a fatal injury but was sent to the Necron Pits by Ray in order to try saving his life; even though it meant that the brother and sister were now on opposite sides of the war.

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#23: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:22:29 PM

And here I was thinking it was related to the film Small Soldiers. Ironic framing too since the original one was about not judging designs for morality, with the monster/disfigured figures being good people. This film just went straightforward lmao

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#24: Jun 27th 2023 at 10:31:54 PM

Not really, it's clearly doing the same thing? The monster leader's avoiding a fight and having his guys retreat despite clearly outnumbering the soldier girl, and doing the Spock empathic hand on glass thing while she's raging at not being able to kill him.

The soldiers meanwhile are all modelled with grotesque, psychotic faces.

Like, seriously, it's not even being subtle about it lol.

Edited by Ghilz on Jun 27th 2023 at 10:33:33 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25: Jun 27th 2023 at 11:10:14 PM

As someone who watched the original Small Soldiers and developed a greater appreciation for its themes as a I grew older, this is quite a surprise. Especially since toys aren't as big a deal for kids today as they were in the 90s.


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