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Hello everyone!

While the tasks I've completed so far go through the review process, my next project I'll be working on is improving the Trope Launch Pad as much as possible.

Below is a list of the current ideas for changes and improvements and wanted to ask the community if I'm missing anything important or if you have suggestions or questions about things currently on the list please let me know! grin

     TLP Improvements to come 
MAIN UPDATES:
  • Disable hats/bombs & comments on discarded drafts
  • TLP History needs fixing: Bug
  • Auto-crosswick when page is launched.
  • Three day wait period before any hats or bombs can be added.
  • Last edited time visible on main listing page.
  • Send notifications to authors of drafts whenever there's a comment or change.
  • New TLP header by Willbyr
  • Expected launch time input field
  • add ability to holler TLP comments
  • Tag system. (“Needs better title”, “needs better description”, “needs examples” etc)
  • Disable launch button if any tags present
  • Add username of who launched a page under Page Info in the sidebar.
  • Show last 5 newest tropes launched on home page
  • show red links in comments. All links showing blue. (Add Customizer() function to comments)
  • increase draft description box size
  • edit locks to prevent duplicates and conflicts.
  • ^Pop up when clicking launch a trope draft.
  • Mods able to remove hats & bombs.
  • Bookmark button when viewing individual TLP drafts
  • Rename "YKTTW Archive" to "Trope Launch Pad Archive" on discussion pages
  • Fix edit time glitch ("last edited by" goes based on last comment and not last edit)
  • Status or special notes field: Wish
  • Fix TLP search to first use titles then descriptions. Wish, Bug
  • Mods and Authors will be able to set drafts to “up for grabs” which will display on the main page
  • Be able to transfer ownership to someone else: Thread
  • Bombs need a reason and then also display those reasons below the trope. Wish, Wish
  • Alter pop up message when clicking bomb: Wish
  • Show that you’ve hatted or bombed a draft. Wish
  • Be unable to hat your own TLP. Wish
  • Change “Launch a New Trope” button text to “Create Trope Draft For Review” or “Create New Trope Draft”.
  • Remove your hat or bomb on a TLP draft without switching to the other. Wish
  • Disable launch button for anyone but mods and authors
  • Change “add hat” to “Launch Ready!” and “discard” to “Not Ready” or “Don’t Launch” and Hat icon changed to Rocket.
  • Laconic field, as well as title and description, will be mandatory for new drafts submissions. Wish
  • Auto launch laconic page Wish
  • Be able to launch other page types via the TLP
  • TLP History added to drop-down.
  • Multiple sections and/or filters for page types
  • make it so that leaving a comment on a draft does not reset the counter on "last edited by" Bug, Bug
  • idea Your next great idea! idea

LOW PRIORITY:

  • Search function for discards Wish
  • 20+ blank pages at end of pagination
  • main/tropelaunchpad redirect to TLP
  • “folders open” setting not working for TLP
  • link to created page on draft when it’s launched
  • TLP history of bombs/hats put in order
  • Bombs on night vision too dark red. Wish
  • Fix backslash issue in TLP drafts. (Every time you save a draft with backslashes, the number of backslashes gets cut in half, rounded down.)
  • Mods able to Thump / delete comments.
     TLP related changes awaiting review 
  • Adds Preview functionality & image upload button to drafts and comments (plus emoji support/bar).

    Current Projects In Development: 

    Current Pictures of project 
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Edited by kory on Feb 11th 2025 at 6:36:46 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#276: Aug 5th 2023 at 10:59:18 AM

Regarding the like system, what purpose would it serve besides offering a diversion for mistakenly added hats? Just let the sponsor know a lot of people like the idea even before it's ready to launch? I feel comments are more productive for that.

Maybe we could add a "sort by most liked" section that can be switched between "sort by last edited" as well? Sorry if this was suggested earlier I'm catching up.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#278: Aug 5th 2023 at 11:01:44 AM

Mightymewtron,

Nice name btw and If I’m going to add a like system then ya I’ll definitely add a sort by most likes to the sort menu. [tup]

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Tremmor19 he/him (Y2: Electric Boogaloo)
he/him
#279: Aug 5th 2023 at 12:34:14 PM

edit: nvm! i was confused

Edited by Tremmor19 on Aug 5th 2023 at 3:40:27 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#280: Aug 5th 2023 at 12:35:19 PM

No it's not implemented yet. If it was, there'd be a huge announcement.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#281: Aug 5th 2023 at 12:35:25 PM

No updates have gone through yet.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#282: Aug 5th 2023 at 5:32:20 PM

There's a lot of posts so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the contrast for hats/bombs on the dark theme is abysmal, verging on barely readable. Just felt this needed to be reiterated if possible.

Especially the bombs, those are barely readable even with good colour vision.

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#283: Aug 5th 2023 at 7:56:45 PM

Read the OP. The folder labeled “improvements to come” shows you everything that’s been suggested. And yes the bomb color is in there.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#284: Aug 5th 2023 at 9:15:14 PM

Technically, I'm also complaining about the hat colour†! [lol]

But yeah, got lost scanning through the list. Sorry 'bout the repetition.

† I'm not too versed in exact UI guidelines, but it should be like... lime green or something given general UX stuff? I do back end things more than anything.

Edited by RainehDaze on Aug 5th 2023 at 5:16:49 PM

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#285: Aug 5th 2023 at 9:25:32 PM

No worries. And I’m mostly a backend guy as well, I’ll make it all work front to back but anything design wise I just send to the frontend department. I’m pretty terrible at it lol.

Edited by kory on Aug 5th 2023 at 9:27:09 AM

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#286: Aug 5th 2023 at 11:52:20 PM

I wonder if it would be possible to prevent people from posting a draft until they add a laconic?

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#287: Aug 6th 2023 at 12:00:34 AM

By simply making all fields in the start TLP form "required".

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kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#288: Aug 6th 2023 at 9:55:46 AM

Also in the OP. Really wish people would read what’s been suggested lol.

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#289: Aug 6th 2023 at 9:59:21 AM

That's a very chronic and contagious problem, yes.

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badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#290: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:38:08 AM

I've mentioned this on the wishlist and am reposting it here for visibility. The one other thing I have to suggest is preventing you from adding hats or bombs if there's already five more of what you're trying to add than the other. That would completely kill bomb dogpiling, which is also a massive problem, but Kory's been pushing back on this one because he thinks it's not necessary with the other changes. I highly urge him to reconsider.

Edited by badtothebaritone on Aug 6th 2023 at 12:39:50 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#291: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:43:50 AM

Is capping votes a thing that has full consensus or we'll have to vote about it?

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#292: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:45:23 AM

I know I've wanted it for a while, it was one of my wishlist suggestions from years back. I agree, it kills the dogpiling issues and forces people to actually give feedback instead of just throwing votes at a draft.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 6th 2023 at 1:46:02 PM

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badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#293: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:52:10 AM

[up][up] It's definitely something that could use more discussion because the only people that I know have extensively discussed it are me, WarJay, and Kory.

Edit: Courtesy link to the wishlist item.

Edited by badtothebaritone on Aug 6th 2023 at 12:53:32 PM

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#294: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:53:23 AM

The mods discussed this before and didn’t come to a conclusive decision. I’ll ask them again.

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ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#295: Aug 6th 2023 at 10:59:17 AM

Hats need a slightly higher threshold than just five. While it may not be super common, it prevent a single rogue bomb from stopping an otherwise unanimous launch.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#296: Aug 6th 2023 at 11:00:33 AM

I mean, then you could just add one more hat... or that was always my personal idea, anyway, to have it on a sliding scale so that you could always be at the proper net count for the amount of hats and bombs on the draft. So if there's one bomb, you could have six hats.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 6th 2023 at 2:00:55 PM

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#297: Aug 6th 2023 at 11:04:54 AM

I'm just not yet convinced putting a cap is necessary when requesting a reason for voting will be implemented. A sponsor wouldn't suddenly die from a heart attack if the draft receives a 0:20 ratio, it would instead highlight users who bomb unconstructively.

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kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#298: Aug 6th 2023 at 11:11:30 AM

Maybe do a crowner? Offer “no cap” “5 hats / 5 bombs cap” “7 / 5” “8 / 5” etc?

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#299: Aug 6th 2023 at 11:12:40 AM

I have no idea why you would ever want to cap the maximum number of hats, that just seems like it'd make it annoying. "Oh, someone's added a bomb? Better hope that one of the people who supports it but wasn't able to because of this arbitrary limit checks in to click the button so it can launch".

Like, is there even such a thing as being too supported?

Edited by RainehDaze on Aug 6th 2023 at 7:13:06 PM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#300: Aug 6th 2023 at 11:13:18 AM

I don't have a problem with capping bombs/hats personally but I suppose we can wait and see if requiring bomb reasons, will lessen unnecessary dogpiling and improper hatting. If it doesn't, I think it's easier to go with capping than having to deal with every person that goes too far with bombing/hatting.

Macron's notes

18th Aug '23 7:38:01 PM

Crown Description:

The TLP is getting the ability to launch other pages besides tropes so we want the name to be more generalized. Please do not add new options to the crowner.

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