Award shows as indexes

Back on my "defeat index bloat"^{What's index bloat, Sync?} Index markup stops working once a page is added to 30+ indexes, so I want to ask about which ones can be removed crusade: do things like Tony Award Winners, Academy Award For Best Picture actually need to be indexes? Is it not enough that the winners and nominees are properly catalogued on the UN page or (if necessary) the Trivia subpage?

Let's take... Titanic (1997). Its indexing is already not working properly (see how the Epic Movie doesn't show the previous or subsequent work in the index).

And while it probably doesn't need to be on all of the other ones (Sea Stories and indexes like it are scrutinized elsewhere, Lighter and Softer?), of its indexes, 11 are for awards, etc. it has won or was nominated for.

(Eta related thread: directors and studios)

Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 7th 2023 at 12:57:20 PM

I agree that these don't need to be indexes. to de-indexing

People don't necessarily know the Trivia subpage can be used for things of this nature.

…Sorry, but I’m not sure what that has to do with the argument to deindex the award shows.

At the very least deindex mere nominations.

I think the idea is that, if people don't think it can be catalogued on the work's trivia page, they'll think having it be indexed on a list of [x] winners is the only way for its award-winning status to be "formally" recognized on the work page.

The purpose of indexing all those seems to be, "Here are all the awards this won or was nominated for". Like, wow look! Triangle of Sadness's award category indexes outnumber the others. What a good movie it is!?

At least.

Conversely the Razzies (an "award" show for thinly veiled complaining about how much something sucks) are also indexed: Golden Raspberry Award.

I agree with de-indexing.

The Razzies is definitely something I feel uneasy indexing at all. Not averse to deindexing the lot to be safe. Winning an award is a nice detail but not so important to a work itself. It's better in the trivia tab anyways (well, not the Razzies).

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Jun 13th 2023 at 7:49:59 AM

I agree with deindexing all of them

Bumping for exposure. My view is still consistent with my last post.

De-indexing is fine with me.

Tropers/Morganwick: Yes, this is what I mean.

To deindexing them.

Fine with deindexing.

Nothing's come of this and the sister thread covering "Overdosed" "indexes" lately. I think we should ultimately put this to a poll, where I'm keen on deindexing all covered in those threads.

Should we do three separate crowners for all three? Or one at a time?

Alright, I'll hook a crowner on what to do but here are the options

• De-index award shows
• Keep award shows indexed

Do we have any other options?

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 25th 2023 at 8:27:32 PM

Hooked a crowner and added the second option (which is just the opposite of the first)

Edit: Sorry, I meant requesting a crowner.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 26th 2023 at 12:28:58 AM

I don't see it? Also only staff can hook crowners?

I find the wording of the proposed options ambiguous. (Could be read as referring to the indexes that the award show pages themselves are on.) How about:

• Don't use award show pages as indexes for work pages
• Keep using award show pages as indexes for work pages

Much better

If one is the inverse of the other, is there a point of listing both?