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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Apr 20th 2023 at 9:36:31 AM

This OP is by ~The Mayor of Simpleton

The problem: Mr Starship is an Audience Reaction wherein the audience views a prominent vehicle used by characters in a story as a character in and of itself. Unfortunately, despite launching in 2011, there are only 5 off-page wicks and 15 on-page examples (combined, that's 20 total—starvation range according to Wick)—which I suspect was due to a lack of crosswicking on launch. The name is also very unclear and non-indicative.

Possible solution: While I guess I could see this as a valid Audience Reaction (assuming the examples are legit), at best it would have to be sent to the Trope Launch Pad or Trope Idea Salvage Yard (preferably with a better name), and at worst an outright cut might be needed.

What does everyone else think? Any other ideas or suggestions?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2: Apr 20th 2023 at 9:36:51 AM

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#3: Apr 20th 2023 at 9:38:02 AM

Thanks for launching this Synch.

Anyway, I wanted to bring up this comment from amathieu13 about this trope from the TRS meta thread, since amathieu mentioned it being relevant:

I'd also add that Setting as a Character and this adoptable draft for Lady Vessel are likely relevant to the discussion on what to do with that trope

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#4: Apr 20th 2023 at 10:29:31 AM

I'd say cut and Yard. I'm not sure how that Lady Vessel draft is relevant because it's about in-universe actions while Mr Starship is about Audience Reactions, so could that be clarified?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 20th 2023 at 12:30:01 PM

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#6: Apr 20th 2023 at 10:38:31 AM

I don't see why is it limited to vehicles. I think audience reactions ironically or not treating an object as contributing member of the team are common and interesting.

Anyway, this means sending to yard.

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#7: Apr 20th 2023 at 10:39:05 AM

Why a vehicle specifically? Why not any object, like the Audience Reaction version of Companion Cube?

[nja]'d by someone who had the same idea as me

Edited by FernandoLemon on Apr 20th 2023 at 2:39:43 PM

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#8: Apr 20th 2023 at 10:45:53 AM

I agree with broadening it into an Audience Reaction counterpart to Companion Cube instead of limiting it to vehicles.

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#9: Apr 20th 2023 at 10:50:41 AM

I said the Lady Vessel draft might be relevant just in the sense that, given this has so few wicks and is likely to get cut, it may be a way to salvage any tropeworthy aspect found in the examples. I don't really think "audience personifies inanimate object" is all that notable and both that draft and Setting as a Character are the In-Universe versions that I do think would be tropeworthy.

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#10: Apr 20th 2023 at 11:17:28 AM

Meh, cut. Yard if someone's got a strong idea.

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#11: Apr 20th 2023 at 11:17:59 AM

Cut. I don't really see this being a "thing".

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#12: Apr 20th 2023 at 12:08:11 PM

I agree with cutting either way. The fact that Yarding is a free action means it's kind of a moot point when it comes to what to do with the current page.

With Yarding being a free action in mind, I'll be lumping regular cut votes with cut+Yard votes when it comes to tallying votes for deciding whether to cut this.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 20th 2023 at 2:09:56 PM

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#17: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:14:53 PM

Cut. Yarding is a free action.

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#18: Apr 21st 2023 at 3:29:02 AM

Regarding the draft, didn't we already have a trope called Spaceship Girl? And that page links to Sapient Ship. What's the distinction between the draft (and Mr Starship) and those tropes?

Edited by MorganWick on Apr 21st 2023 at 3:29:50 AM

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#20: Apr 21st 2023 at 4:57:56 AM

[up][up]You'd probably get a better answer in the comment section for that draft. It's not really relevant to a thread about Mr Starship, especially since we're probably going to cut Mr Starship at this rate, taking it out of the equation.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 21st 2023 at 6:58:26 AM

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#21: Apr 21st 2023 at 7:01:17 AM

Calling thread in favor of cutting/yarding Mr Starship since we have 10 votes in favor of doing that and the trope isn't thriving.

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#22: Apr 21st 2023 at 7:06:24 AM

Dewicked and sent to the Cut List. Not sure how to word the Salvage Yard entry so I'll let someone else do that.

We can close now.

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