I think we should retool the trope to the first two definitions. The last definitions (3 & 4) are chairs without much significance. Would we have enough examples of those with the trope only having 80 wicks?
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Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallDoes the situation in the description look similar to New Powers as the Plot Demands for anyone else?
Edit: which is only wicked from Wing Pull in the Web Video quote.
Edited by Malady on Mar 3rd 2023 at 5:45:36 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576It's definitely a subtrope of New Powers as the Plot Demands if we go with the "character pulls the power of flight/wings out suddenly".
Oissu!There might be something about how the writer is using New Powers as the Plot Demands to "repair" a "Broken Bridge", when both are of their own devising, so it's something about authorial... bad writing, that they're not really thinking ahead, and instead writing by the seat of their pants (pantsing) and not rewriting?
And in that way, it's sorta using an 11th-Hour Superpower to fix a problem that was suddenly written in?
Edited by Malady on Mar 3rd 2023 at 6:32:50 AM
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agree. if it's "character suddenly reveals they have wings/the power of flight at a crucial moment" that's New Powers as the Plot Demands.
If it's "character with wings hides them as part of a secret identity or to hide they have powers until a crucial moment", depending on how the example is written, that seems like Willfully Weak or Cover-Blowing Superpower.
None of the categories have enough examples (10) to warrant reworking the trope to fit around without TLP, so I say either merge into one of the ones listed or disambig the page.
Edited by amathieu13 on Mar 4th 2023 at 3:33:00 PM
I don't believe "A character contrively reveals they can fly" is a meaningful split from New Powers as the Plot Demands, at least not with the current wick count (80).
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI think a "Could fly all along reveal" can work as a trope, but I agree with the others that the trope is pretty messy as is. Maybe yard the concept.
So,
for Disambig. Aside from what others said, the "Character has wings they can hide/create" examples could also be covered by Retractable Appendages or Winged Humanoid.
Hooked a crowner. We can decide whether to redirect or disambiguate later.
I got a rock for Halloween.I forgotten how crowbers work. Can we close it now that it's at 22:1 for Merge, since it's so unlikely to even out or flip?
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Correct; we have to wait until at least the 9th. The only time the Three-Day Rule is waived is if the page is wick-starved as defined by Administrivia.Wick. Wing Pull's wick count isn't incredibly high at 80, but it's not starving either.
I moved on-page examples to Sandbox.Wing Pull to make merging them with New Powers as the Plot Demands's on-page examples easier to keep track of, and redirected the main page.
I got a rock for Halloween.
Moved a couple that I felt were clearest cut, also took out the few that were already on NPATPD.
Crown Description:
Wing Pull only has a small amount of wicks on top of its name being an unclear snowclone of Ass Pull, resulting in misuse. In addition, there are concerns that it's The Same But More Specific to New Powers As The Plot Demands. What should be done with it?

To-do list:
Recently, Laconic.Wing Pull was changed from
- 3/50 wicks involved a character keeping their wings hidden until a situation comes up where they need to fly. These are the only valid examples by the trope description.
- 4/50 wicks involved a character only revealing that they can fly when the plot requires them to fly.
- 8/50 wicks involved a character hiding their wings and revealing them in a situation unrelated to flight.
- 9/50 wicks involved a character being able to hide their wings at will, but not keeping their existence a secret.
- 23/50 wicks were ZCEs and potholes.
I suspect that the high number of ZCEs are a product of both the vague scope of the trope and its name. As I see it, there are four possible definitions of Wing Pull available:- The current definition, where a character reveals they have wings when they need to fly, which comes up in 6% of wicks.
- The current laconic definition, where a character reveals they have the power of flight when they need to fly, which comes up in 14% of wicks.
- A character is revealed to have wings in general, which comes up in 20% of wicks.
- A character can extend and retract their wings, with no story reveal required, which comes up in 38% of wicks.
Regardless of which definition is chosen, the trope description needs a rewrite, and the trope will likely have to be renamed to something clearer.Wick check:
This is a wick check for Wing Pull.Results:
Van: Naked? You wish. My wings can come out just fine with my pants still on, thankyouverymuch.
Van: I told you — I'm an awesome Shonen action hero, and I have lots and lots of powers.
Hitomi: Oh yeah. Angel wings. That's really Shonen. Seriously, is it genetic or something?
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 9th 2023 at 3:32:14 AM
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