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Oftentimes here in Trope Talk, we get questions about whether or not a given trope is tropeworthy enough, or is an example of the kind of non-tropes discussed in People Sit on Chairs. These threads are extremely frequent, and per discussion in the TRS meta thread, this megathread was created.

This will be a centralized place to ask: is this article I found tropeworthy? Does it convey meaning or is it used to tell the story, or is it just something that happens to exist in a work? Ask here, and hopefully you will get the answers you need.

Remember, something that is "(people sit on) chairs" means it's happenstance or conveys no meaning. Something that also happens in real life, is common, is rare, or seems minor is not the same as being chairs.


As an additional note, keep this in mind when bringing tropes in, as noted by amathieu13:

a trope not being chairs/being deemed tropeworthy =/= the trope lacks any and all issues. It just means that the idea itself is fine in theory.

Edited by Tabs on Oct 29th 2023 at 10:08:41 AM

Azorius24 Knight of Solace from the bonnie, bonnie banks o' Loch Lomond (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
Knight of Solace
#1251: Jun 25th 2024 at 4:22:13 PM

Saw Fanservice Model due to the recent video upload, and am not particularly sure if it merits a page? It's an almost entirely descriptive page about sexualised models and gravure idols, and I got Cam Whore, a similarly descriptive page about "characters being cam girls" cut a little while back though TRS for being untropeworthy. Surely "characters being sexy models" is similar?

Edited by Azorius24 on Jun 25th 2024 at 12:24:10 PM

"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
DoktorvonEurotrash Lex et Veritas from Not a place of honour (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1252: Jun 26th 2024 at 6:01:01 AM

[up]I agree with you: as far as I can tell, it's another "profession as trope" page, with no real plot content. (And one of the Webcomics entries is about a model in a life-drawing class, which seems like a stretch, no matter how attractive they are.)

Relatedly, did we ever decide what do to with Sequential Artist? Because I cannot for the life of me see a trope there, unless it's "Most Writers Are Writers but for comics", and even then, a bunch of examples are just "a comic book artist exists".

Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Jun 26th 2024 at 8:15:45 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1253: Jun 26th 2024 at 9:51:41 AM

[up] Could've sworn there was previous discussion and an entry on Tropes Needing TRS. It does look like Most Writers Are Writers with a bit of specificity.

Azorius24 Knight of Solace from the bonnie, bonnie banks o' Loch Lomond (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
Knight of Solace
#1254: Jun 26th 2024 at 12:08:32 PM

[up][up] Well, looks like another one for the ol' wick check and TRS Queue in that case. I'll sort that out when I have the time.

Edited by Azorius24 on Jun 26th 2024 at 8:20:35 PM

"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1255: Jun 27th 2024 at 12:42:29 AM

Here's the last time Sequential Artist came up that I'm aware of; see also the thread I link to on the following page.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#1256: Jul 15th 2024 at 7:08:54 PM

Is Stage Magician just "a magician exists" or "character happens to be a magician", or something more?

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selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#1257: Jul 15th 2024 at 7:31:42 PM

It seems like it. Or maybe it's a trope for the stereotypical portrayal of magicians in fiction?

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darkemyst Since: Mar, 2017
#1259: Jul 16th 2024 at 10:01:31 AM

Always thought Stage Magician was meant to be the stereotypical description of them, but with the current laconic and name it's bound to attract misuse.

BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#1260: Jul 16th 2024 at 10:33:59 AM

We also have Hocus Tropus index which has a lot of tropes about the classic tricks and portrayals of Stage Magician.

Edited by BlackMage43 on Jul 16th 2024 at 10:34:26 AM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#1261: Jul 18th 2024 at 5:49:20 AM

From Media Adaptation Tropes

Are they really tropes? What context can they provide besides "an adaptation exists"? Is there a meaningful difference between them aside medium1-medium2?

Video Game Movies is at least an index, so I feel it'd make sense if others are, if not merged or moved to Trivia.

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petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#1262: Jul 18th 2024 at 5:53:04 AM

[up]It sounds reasonable to make them indexes too, though an index is really just a list of pages with no or minimal context added to them, while adaptations can sometimes be more complex.

Fjón þvæ ég af mér fjanda minna rán og reiði ríkra manna.
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#1263: Jul 18th 2024 at 10:08:33 AM

Indexes can still have entries with context; many do already. It's just not strictly required.

Macron's notes
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1264: Jul 19th 2024 at 12:07:54 AM

Note that the oldest Internet Archive copy of The Film of the Book is full of commentary on the fidelity of adaptation and (implicitly, based on the use of Adaptation Decay to refer to deviations) how good it is. The application of Tropes Are Tools may have turned something originally intended to be analogous to The Problem with Licensed Games into "book-to-film adaptations exist".

That said, these sorts of pages could be viable as Trivia, which they currently aren't. (The fact they're so universally not-trivia makes me wonder if this has been debated before.)

Animated Adaptation might be tropeworthy as they tend to be adaptations of shows and films that are more adult-oriented, and because of the Animation Age Ghetto the adaptation tends to be dumbed down and/or simplified as a result. The page might need to be dramatically tightened and reworked in that case though, since it currently includes things like adaptations of comics.

Edited by MorganWick on Jul 19th 2024 at 12:12:38 PM

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#1265: Jul 19th 2024 at 4:41:25 PM
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#1266: Jul 19th 2024 at 4:56:50 PM

If it's used in fiction then it's more of a clever artstyle.

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#1267: Jul 26th 2024 at 8:00:27 AM

Does Aspect Ratio seem like more of a Media Notes article to anyone else?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1268: Jul 26th 2024 at 8:35:58 AM

I think there are tropeworthy uses (e.g. 4:3 being used for retraux independent of Aspect Ratio Switch is the big one) but given the way it's written very BTS-y and has no examples on page, MN is probably the best way

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#1269: Jul 27th 2024 at 4:50:27 PM

[up] What is BTS?

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#1270: Jul 27th 2024 at 4:52:10 PM

[up] I assume "behind the scenes?"

~Synchronicity Sorry to ping, Aegis and I just need clarification.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1271: Jul 27th 2024 at 5:25:13 PM

yes (I'm old, is that not a common acronym anymore?)

bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#1272: Jul 27th 2024 at 5:50:24 PM

Sometimes I feel like Frieren when it comes to this. Online lingo changes far too frequently.

(...Do they even say "lingo" anymore?)

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#1273: Jul 27th 2024 at 5:50:24 PM

No sadly, and I am old and study cinematography.

[up] Lingo IS used. Sorry got ninja'd BTS brings the Korean band in my mind.

Edited by AegisP on Jul 27th 2024 at 6:01:45 AM

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#1274: Jul 27th 2024 at 5:59:32 PM

I'm Gen Z so perhaps I missed it.

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bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#1275: Jul 27th 2024 at 6:13:45 PM

[up][up] We STP'd, as they used to say. (I'm fairly certain that's not in common use anymore.)

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