Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here
Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.
Here is how the process works:
- If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.
- After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".
- Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!
Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:
- To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!
- No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
- Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
- Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
- Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.
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- Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").
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- Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest
for that.
- Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.
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If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:
What is the work?
This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.
Are they bad enough?
A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:
- Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
- The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
- The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)
Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.
Final verdict?
This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.
And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 12th 2024 at 3:13:36 PM
to Master Mold.
Gihren. I think the original reason he wasn't upvoted was that he was too similar to his canon counterpart and the only real difference was that his unique to origins crimes didn't have much to go over.
The version of Gihren I think actually has a chance to not qualify outside Gihren's Greed is actually the novelization version, because I think he does show a genuine degree of affection for his lover there, which narrowly pushes him to 99.99% monster/Near Pure evil territory.
However, I am unsure on Kycilia and as the original EP that tried to effortpost Kycilia years ago, I am actually leaning
. The issue that was brought up
was that as high ranking government leader in Zeon, she'd have the same resources as Gihren. Not that she wasn't nasty on her own right, and that Colonel Killing(and if we're looking at it, Asakusa), has less resources but actually causes much more harm and damage. While Origin is set in its' own canon, a case could be made that M'Quve surpasses her in heinousness.
I know that the same person whom rebutted manga!Kycilia is banned, and characters they felt aren't CM have been upvoted in the past like Dekim but this is frankly a different situation then Dekim, who was more close to Gihren and was the source of all the suffering in the After Colony era.
And it does feel that these points were not addressed.
Edited by xie323 on Jul 24th 2024 at 7:48:20 AM
I addressed the overall issue: Kycilia is more than bad enough for the setting. She's the one who personally orders M'Quve to earth in the first place to sabotage the Antarctica Treaty, wage war on Earth and ensure the horrible One Year War was dragged out. She has way more crimes than M'Quve, and is way worse than him. She's got tons of personal, sadistic villainy (bombing a lunar flight with hundreds of men, women and babies to kill a single target; terrorizing and threatening Casval as a child; murdering 3 members of her own family and attempting a fourth), frequently tries to kill Casval and Artesia as children (when even Gihren at that point recognize it's not pragmatic to do so), and without her, Gihren frankly wouldn't have gotten as far as he did. She was by his side backing and endorsing every single thing Gihren did, her "head of information and security" position being used to propagate the war. She's plenty bad enough, she's the worst besides Gihren and even then has more personal cruelty than him, even if he came up with the Colony Drop on his own it's not so bad that it DQ's Kycilia when she does plenty horrible things herself.
If you have further issues you can bring them to the cleanup thread, as Kycilia is now officially "listed" and would have to be cut rather than downvoted, but I'll be maintaining that she is plenty bad there if you do.
Edited by Ravok on Jul 24th 2024 at 7:55:29 AM
No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!What is the work ?
The work is "Complete Backstory Of Five Nights At Freddy's" a fan made backstory to Five Nights at Freddy's by xxProClassGamerxx , created prior to FNAF 2. The story is a backstory to how the events of fnaf 1 came to be , involving mad scientist comiting horrible experiments on children with the intended goal of achieving immortality.
Who is John Smith and Abel Hynes and what have they done ?
John Smith and Abel Hynes are the two villainous protagonists of the unfinished series Complete Backstory Of Five Nights At Freddy's.
In 1947 , in a meeting in the American Chemicals Society , The American Scientist named John Smith met Abel Hynes , an ex Nazi scientist who had fled Germany at the end of World War 2. Abel had great knowledge of eugenics , which most of the scientists ignored , but John took great interest in.
John took Abel under his wing due to their common interest in scientific experimentation. They converted a building that John owned into a laboratory. The building was made to be isolated from the rest of society and got special technological equipment due to the funding of a private organization set in Germany. The lab served one purpose : secretly experimenting and torturing children with the goal of achieving immortality. The reason they chose children to experiment on was because of their genes being easier to extract.
Abel, who had access to secret techniques from his time as a Nazi, created robots designed to lure children into the lab for experimentation. These robots were disguised as a large purple bunny and a yellow chicken. Thanks to their bright eyes and instruments, the robots successfully lured many children into the lab.
It is worth noting that before the experiments began , Abel due to his hatred of Jews because of believing that they were what brought the ecomnomic issues in Germany as well as their loss in World War I , he specifically programmed the yellow chicken robot to specifically single out any child who was jewish.
Most of the children lured into the lab , experimented on and killed turned out to be useless for John and Abel's cause. However, this changed when a pair of twins were captured. These twins possessed a special gene that allowed for rapid cell growth and repair, seemingly eliminating the problem of aging altogether.
John and Abel managed to isolate this gene and decided to test its effects on human flesh. They began injecting the gene into the remaining children they had captured. The injections caused the children incredible agony, making them scream in pain before ultimately dying. Instead of achieving immortality, the children's souls possessed the bunny and chicken animatronics after death. These possessed animatronics attempted to kill John and Abel, but the scientists managed to subdue them using an electromagnetic pulse they had developed.
Mitigating Factors ?
John and Abel share a villainous friendship, but their relationship isn't explored beyond John's interest in Abel's knowledge of eugenics. They likely viewed each other as business partners, merely means to an end.
In the first episode, they justify torturing and killing weak children by claiming it is for a greater scientific purpose. However, this is clearly a hollow excuse for their crimes. The narration even states that they kept saying it was for a noble cause to "keep themselves sane."
Characterization might seem problematic because neither John nor Abel has a single spoken line. However, the narration clearly depicts them as delusional, immortality-seeking mad scientists. Abel, in particular, comes off as especially heinous, given his Nazi background and intense hatred for Jews. He even programmed the animatronics to specifically target Jewish children for experimentation. Thus, characterization is not an issue.
The series remains unfinished, as the third and final video was never released. However, the first two videos provide enough plot and story to characterize them effectively.
Heinous standard ?
John and Abel easily pass the threshold for villainy in the series. They are the only true villains in the videos, as their animatronics, before being possessed, are mere drones following orders. After possession, the animatronics only seek vengeance against their killers. As for the general heinous standard of Five Nights at Freddy's, they meet and even exceed it. They match William Afton in terms of kidnapping , experimenting on and killing dozens of children and likely surpass him with their additional gene experimentation and Nazi beliefs.
Final Verdict ?
A weak yes.
Edited by TommySlenderman on Jul 24th 2024 at 8:34:27 AM
Didn't we downvote these 2 last year since this didn't really have a full story, more of a concept of a story?
"We'll meet again" | 🏳️⚧️A new literature villain I found that could be a candidate.
WHAT’S THE WORK?
The Ex-Husband
is an Crime novel about Hair Salon Worker named Leah Ward, who moved to a small town in UK only to find that her ex-husband is the neighbour
WHO IS HE / WHAT DID HE DO?
Craig Forbes, a real-estate worker, is Leah’s ex-husband, whom she has left due to his negligence and abuse. At first, Craig kept a friendly/neutral tone to Leah once she discovered he was her neighbour. Starting to take care of her kids as a father as well, despite having no custody. Leah eventually figures out that this was all a facade, as Craig starts to do some questionable things.Such as stealing her trash bin and breaking and entering, stating it is all to get her relationship back.
All of these are shortly turned into serious problems, as Craig starts to take Leah’s two kids into a new school without her permission (mentally breaking her son), exposing her phone number into a website filled with perverted people, and even planned to destroy her home just to make her life miserable as possible, not even Leah’s family and friends are safe, as he is responsible for attacking his father-in-law to have an heart attack. And assaulting her new boyfriend, Gabe, as at, Not only does he deny all of it despite evidence, he even deems Leah as the mad one and threatens to call her on the cops.
Eventually, Craig locks her up in his new house and confesses the entire reason why he did this was for one reason, because of Leah’s Mother, Rita calling her unfaithful, which was true, but the real reason why she called him that was due to the fact that he had slept and even had sex with her. While craig confesses everything went wrong and tries to give a half-baked remorse, Leah pretends to accept is fake apology, and asks to go on a ride, before going to a forest and ramming her car in a tree for an attempt of murder-suicide.
Luckily, Craig was dead and Leah was alive, but The entire situation with Craig caused Rita to slowly lose her mind, and believe she killed Craig, which would cause her to go to jail after she turns herself in for Craig’s death.
FREUDIAN EXCUSES / MITIGATING FACTORS
Absolutely none, all of his ‘affable’ nature such as talking about her past and their good lifestyle is All a faux, he even states all he wants is to see Her suffer. He is also not loyal to his family members, forcing them to do what he wants, including his new wife, in fact, he is extremely misogynistic and makes sexist remarks about Leah, her mother, and his new wife.
HEINOUS STANDARDS
While being the only villain in the story, Craig is someone that is beyond an generic abusive husband, stalking Leah, gaslighting her family, destroying her property, mentally abusing their kids, Harassing her by doxxing her and spreading her information onto the online full of perverts, and most importantly, having a incestuous relationship with his own Mother-in-Law for his own pleasure, makes him stand out, disgusting and vile instead of being generic abuser.
FINAL VERDICT
Yes
Yes to Master Mold
What’s The Work?
Guyver: Dark Hero is the much more Darker and Edgier sequel to the original 1991 film The Guyver, which is based on the manga by Takaya Yoshiki.
Taking place after the events of the movie and destroying the Chronos Corporation, Sean Barker is using the Guyver suit in order to fight crime, however, his dreams lead him to an archeological site where he discovers the thought to be dead Zoanoids are planning to Take Over the World.
Who is Arlen Crane? What Does He Do?
- The Operations Director of the archeological dig, Crane is in truth a Zoanoid and an agent for another branch of the Chronos Corporation (the first movie had Sean only destroy the LA branch), who attempts to unearth a dormant alien spaceship that was used to create the Guyver Suits, in order for the Cronos to continue their plot for world domination, and he’s linked to several brutal maulings in the woods curtsy of his right hand Volker.
- After discovering the spaceship and Sean manages to open it, Arlen confronts and reveals himself, attempting to win Sean on his side by giving up the Guyver suit. However, once Sean refuses, Arlen has him sedated and tied up.
- Once getting what he wants, Arlen rounds up the two dozen archeologists and callously deems them to outlive their usefulness and, even when they are pleading and begging to be spared, ordered them to be killed, only being stopped by incoming Commander Atkins. While Atkins manages to evacuate the mining team, Arlen manages to have Atkin’s troops brutally killed and holds him hostage.
- When Sean and his love interest Cori, the daughter of lead archeologist Marcus, attempt to blow up the ship, Arlen holds Cori hostage and orders Sean to stand down less he kill her. Marcus, who actually is a Zoanoid too, rescues them and a battle ensures, Arlen impels the father with a pipe and kills him.
- Then we get the final battle, where Arlen reveals another Guyver unit that was on the ship and activates it to fight Sean and almost brutally kills him, but due to the suit being damaged heavily, a shot by Cori stuns him long enough for Sean to rip out his control unit, resulting in a nasty death as Arlen is melted away before being vaporized by Sean.
Mitigating Factors?
While he appears amicable and sympathetic with Sean while trying to convince him, it’s made clear he’s a blatant egotist who sees Zoanoid’s as superior. Nothing here.
Heinous Standard?
Now, Arlen isn’t too impressive, admittedly. He doesn’t have the resources of Fulton Balcus in the first movie, but Arlen is pretty much an agent whose actions for the most part are under the orders of the Greater-Scope Villain Gouo. However, what I think gets him to pass?
His blatantly ordering the massacre of about two dozen completely innocent archeologists for no other reason than him not viewing them as useful, ordering them all to be shot dead despite their pleading and begging for mercy. It’s such a disproportionately cruel act that no one else ever done in the two films. For what is simply a minion and random ass agent, this goes far beyond what is expectant, compared to the likes of Lisker and Fulton’s other goons who don’t nearly have this big of an attempted body count.
So I think overall, he’s fine.
Verdicy?
Gonna go with a yes
to Arlen , Craig and Master Mold
Well , might as well propose another candidate.
What is the work ?
Marioronpa is a Mario fan comic on Instagram created by Vanta. Mario and his friends find themselves trapped in Princess Peache's castle and they are forced to kill each other in order to escape. Essentially , it is Danganronpa in the Super Mario Universe.
Who is Dimentio and what has he done ?
Dimentio is one of the few that joind Count Bleck in his goal of destroying the Multiverse. Before the events of the comic , Dimentio suggested to Count Bleck that they should create a killing game in order to stop any threats. However unbeknownst to Bleck , Dimentio planned to betray him and take the Chaos Heart for himself. After getting his hands on the Chaos Heart, Dimentio went to the Star Road in order to wish for the replica of Princess Peach's castle to be created for the killing game as the original one was destroyed during the war between the Mushroom kingdom and the Koopa Kingdom. To make things worse, he also wished the war itself to be spread across the world.
At the start, the killing game progresses as expected for a Danganronpa game until Chapter 5. Suddenly, the castle turns black and white as it is consumed by the void, forcing the remaining participants to kill each other before they—and the entire multiverse—get devoured by it. This prompts Mario and Peach to destroy the security room in hopes of ending the game. Shortly after, Peach's dress is found on the floor of the Main Grounds. The investigation and subsequent castle trial begin, ultimately revealing that Peach was alive the whole time. She had turned off the force field protecting the Pure Hearts, using them to weaken the Chaos Heart and unlock the castle for the others to escape.
After Peach breaks two of the game's rules, Dimentio kills her. Mario and the other survivors exit the castle, only to discover that they are now in front of Castle Bleck.
Inside Castle Bleck, Mario strikes a deal with Dimentio to hold one final trial to unmask the mastermind. Dimentio agrees and leaves the survivors to search the castle. When the investigation concludes, the survivors gather in the trial grounds for the trial. During said trial, Mario and his companions eventually uncover that Luigi, or rather Mr. L, is the mastermind. It's revealed that Dimentio transformed Luigi into Mr. L to host the Chaos Heart and erased the memories of the other participants to keep Mr. L's identity a secret.
Dimentio then forces the survivors to vote on whether to return to their world, risking death from the ongoing world war, or to stay in Castle Bleck forever with Luigi. The survivors choose to return to their world, ready to face whatever awaits them. After the vote, Dimentio turns Mr. L back into Luigi and executes him alongside himself.
Mitigating Qualities ? Redeeming Factors ?
In Chapter 4, after the participants become trapped inside Bob-Omb Battlefield, Dimentio provides them with necessary food to prevent starvation. However, this act isn't presented as redeeming in any way, as Dimentio's motive is to keep the participants motivated for the killing game. Considering that he previously attempted to deprive the participants of sleep, it is highly unlikely that he has any standards against deprivation of essential bodily needs.
In Chapter 5, Dimentio helps Luigi set up a poker game by providing the necessary essentials. However, it is probable that he did this simply because he enjoys poker, rather than out of any genuine desire to help.
Even if any of these actions had elements of altruism, they are certainly subverted in the final trial. Dimentio gives the survivors an option to return to their world, knowing full well they will likely die due to the ongoing war. Alternatively, he offers them the option to stay in Castle Bleck with Luigi, but this is not portrayed as a good thing since they would be stuck there forever. This entire scenario is just a sadistic choice.
Moreover, Dimentio's desire to create "Perfect Worlds" is even flimsier than in the original canon, as he caused and exacerbated a worldwide war. His faux affably evil claims of "not being violent by nature" also fall flat due to the cruelty of his actions.
Heinous Standard
From creating a killing game , to causing a worldwide war and trying to destroy the multiverse. Dimentio , unsurprisingly passes the heinous standard. Count Bleck is the only one that even comes close to rivaling him , as he also tried to destroy the multiverse. But he suffers from off screen vilainy and Dimentio did worse than him with fewer resources.
There also is Mister L , who is the one controlling the killing game. But he is only a brainwashed puppet controlled by Dimentio. Every other villain is bog standard kill the heroes type. Dimentio easily passes the heinous standard of this fan work and of super mario bros in general.
Final Verdict?
Easy Yes.
Edited by TommySlenderman on Jul 24th 2024 at 10:48:08 AM
- Monsters vs. Aliens, the Junior Novel, by Susan Korman: Gallaxhar, portrayed more seriously here than the movie, is an alien overlord who wants to harvest the power of Quantonium and take over the Earth. Having destroyed his homeworld of Maxilon when the people derided his mad dreams of power as psychopathy, Gallaxhar pursues the rare Quantonium to Earth and unleashes a giant robot that wrecks San Francisco. Capturing the woman who has accidentally absorbed Quantonoum, Susan, Gallaxhar painfully extracts the substance from her then sends her to be incinerated. Gallaxyar uses the Quantontium to create an army of clones and reveals his plan to invade Earth, destroy most of humanity, and use whatever humans survive as slave labor and lab experiments.
Edited by Ravok on Jul 24th 2024 at 11:37:06 AM
No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!If it's ambiguous otherwise, I think it's good. We did that for Tarquin.
Word of God usually doesn’t apply, but if it confirms something the work already heavily implies, then it counts.
What, like it's hard?Yes to Dimentio and Crane. Evan's right, we can use it to back things up clearly implied by the narrative but it's something to be careful with. We wanna make sure we're remembering to avoid including the likes of Offstage Villainy to list someone because of what the writer says; OTOH we don't wanna cut an evil mummy because I swear her dad was a sexist jerk.
