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Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here

Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.

Here is how the process works:

    Process 

  1. If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.

  2. After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".

  3. Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!

Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:

    Ground Rules 

  1. To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!

  2. No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
    1. Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
    2. Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
    3. Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.

  3. Don't delete an EP unless you intend to swiftly repost it. We know that there are reasons why you might want to delete an EP, especially if it's being downvoted - rejection is hard, even in a low-stakes environment like this. However, deleting it renders the current discussion null and void, makes it impossible to reference the discussion in the future and can confuse tropers who didn't read it before the deletion. If the issue is temporary (such as formatting problems or a post getting overlooked as the thread moves on), then deleting and quickly reposting the EP is a valid option, but to fully retract an EP, please use the [[strike:]] markup instead.

  4. Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").

  5. If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.

  6. 'If a work is already reserved by another user , please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!

  7. Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.

  8. Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.

  9. If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
    1. For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
    2. If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.

  10. Please keep all discussions "in-house".
    1. What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
    2. Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
    3. Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.

If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:

    Effortpost Template 

What is the work?

This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.

Who is the candidate and what have they done?

This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.

Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.

Are they bad enough?

A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:

  • Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
  • The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
  • The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)

Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.

Final verdict?

This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.


IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.

And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 12th 2024 at 3:13:36 PM

Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
#22401: Aug 6th 2023 at 12:15:15 PM

[tup]Jack.

Why so serious?
FlowerPicking Since: Feb, 2023 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#22403: Aug 6th 2023 at 12:47:31 PM

Yes to Jack.

What's the work?

The Black Hole is a surprisingly dark sci-fi by Disney made to follow up the Star Wars craze that's since become a Cult Classic with its neat, almost Cosmic Horror Story-like elements. The crew of the USS Palomino happen upon the disappeared USS Cygnus, whose eccentric genius Commander, Dr. Hans Reinhardt, went missing with his crew 20 years ago after being ordered back to Earth from their mission to look for intelligent life.

As the crew are forced aboard the Palomino, it turns out Reinhardt is a monster with a god complex who zombified his crew when they tried to flee but doesn't count out of genuine displeasure at one of the Palomino crew member's death. The novelization however, adds a bit more to his bully of a right hand robot.

Who is Maximillian? What has he done?

(Spelled with two "l"s in the book), he's a silent but snarky machine, he introduces himself intimidating the Palomino crew with his whirring drills and missing no opportunity to pick on their own robot, V.I.N.CENT (henceforth Vincent because that's annoying to write out). In the film he misses for lacking in Reinhardt's nastiest crime even if lacking his boss' redeeming quality. Not so in the novel, as Vincent learns from friendly Cygnus droid B.O.B. that Maximillian was made during Reinhardt's quashing of his mutinying crew: aiding in killing their heroic leader—father of Palomino member Dr. Kate McCrae—and was personally responsible for the Unwilling Roboticization of the Cygnus crew.

For the past two decades, the humans were remade into shells of their former selves, only capable of carrying out the insane Reinhardt's will as he forced them to carry out tasks to implement his plot to travel through the nearby black hole and emerge a god with a theoretically inexhaustible supply of energy and unfathomable discoveries.

When Vincent communicates B.O.B.'s truth to the crew, Kate reveals the truth to Dr. Alex Durant, the only one who's been buying Reinhardt's bullshit and he tries to stop the madman. Maximillian promptly uses his drills to murder Durant and controls the other robots in an attempt to roboticize Kate and happily takes Reinhardt's command to "liquidate" the others, shooting down the Palomino itself with one cowardly member aboard who tries to leave the others.

In the ensuing conflict a storm of asteroids end up hitting the Cygnus and Reinhardt is pinned to the floor, demanding Maximillian save him but the evil robot abandons him to see out his grudge with Vincent. Fighting Vincent and B.O.B. while the rest of the heroes flee, Maximillian manages to mortally wound B.O.B. before Vincent plunges his own drill into the villainous robot's chest and destroys him while the ship explodes and kills the trapped Reinhardt (Sadly they don't merge and get sucked into Hell).

Mitigating factors?

Maximillian doesn't talk but he clearly enjoys lording over people—and Vincent—as shown by his body language. Beyond that nothing, he was built by Reinhardt but he's got no loyalty to his master. Vincent stood up to him and that enraged him so much he happily abandons his trapped boss for a bout at his foe.

Heinousness?

In the film there isn't enough detail given about his past in Reinhardt's employ but the expansion to Maximillian's character makes it clear he was linked to the other machines, put down the crew's mutiny against Reinhardt and horrifically had the survivors remade into the zombie-like beings said to be devoid of free will and left to suffer into undeath as slaves for two decades.

Likewise B.O.B. has thoughts and feelings and he's abused by Maximillian's lesser robots for "slights" like winning at video games, he's the main physical threat ordering or personally attacking the heroes.

Verdict?

Keep the Robotic Psychopath.

WetFlannels Classy, Refined, Unstable from Nearby, on a cosmological scale. Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Classy, Refined, Unstable
#22404: Aug 6th 2023 at 12:48:55 PM

Yes there.

What's wrong D-16? Rise up!
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#22405: Aug 6th 2023 at 12:50:02 PM

[tup]Maximillian

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
EmperorGeode from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
MermaidEyes15 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
#22409: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:10:47 PM

Yes Maximillian

Time for the write ups, since The Executioner is gonna be up in a few hours:

Edited by MermaidEyes15 on Aug 6th 2023 at 4:11:25 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#22410: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:12:34 PM

Eh, sure to Max.

Should the Dollmaker or the Executioner go first?

Edited by ACW on Aug 6th 2023 at 4:15:20 AM

MermaidEyes15 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
#22411: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:16:46 PM

[up] Me personally, the Executioner as he has a more prevalent appearance than the minor (pretty much secrete antagonist) Dollmaker

Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#22412: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:19:51 PM

Yes to Maximillian, great find!

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
therealjackieboy from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#22414: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:23:12 PM

This the novel?

I'll just file it at the main Lit page under B?

43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#22416: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:24:24 PM

Yes to Maximillian.

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Michealthehero21 Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22418: Aug 6th 2023 at 1:49:40 PM

[tup] Maximillion. Ironic that Disney would make their own version of Star Wars considering they would end up OWNING the rights for Star Wars years later.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#22419: Aug 6th 2023 at 2:12:48 PM

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  • Street Smart (1987): Leo Smalls Jr. is a pimp who goes by the name "Fast Black". When he accidentally kills a client in a scuffle, he realizes his salvation lies in the reporter Jonathan Fisher, whose made-up segment "Street Smart" includes many parallels to him. Unfortunately, Fast cannot maintain an affable front for long. Keeping his prostitutes enslaved with fear of violence and beatings, Fast tortures them if they disappoint him, burning one with cigarette butts and later forcing her to choose which eye he cuts out as a form of psychological torment. When she goes to a prosecutor, he simply murders her. Forcing Jonathan to write an alibi for him, Fast promises to kill him and everyone he loves should he refuse.
  • U.S. Marshals: John Royce is a corrupt agent of the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) who uses his position to sell valuable American military secrets to China. When his superiors began to suspect his criminal actions, Royce tricked fellow agent Mark Sheridan into murdering two innocent DSS agents and framed him as the mole. Royce smuggles a gun onto the prison transport plane that Sheridan is aboard to kill him, and when the gun misfires and causes the plane to crash—killing 8 men and threatening dozens of lives—Royce's only concern is that Sheridan didn't die in the crash. After having his Chinese liaison Chen murder multiple contacts and allies to tie up all loose ends, Royce tries to execute Sheridan, heartlessly gunning down Deputy US Marshal Noah Newman for witnessing it and nearly doing the same to Sam Gerard.
  • Indiana Jones and the Monkey King script, by Chris Columbus (link): Sgt. Helmut Gutterbuhg is the slimy, conniving second-in-command to Lt. Werner Von Mephisto. Co-leading an expedition to find the lost city of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, Gutterbuhg slithers his way into power by murdering the lost city's benevolent ruler and exploiting a tradition of Klingon Promotion to become their new king. Gutterbuhg gleefully begins driving the entire city into Nazism for the hell of it and gluttons himself on the pleasures of his new kingdom, promising Indy that when his Nazi allies arrive, he'll share with them the bounties of his kingdom before they massacre every last person in the city. All this is to plunder the city of its garden of immortality-giving peaches, ensuring the Führer becomes immortal and plunging the world into a literal thousand-year Reich.
  • Quantum of Solace:
    • Dominic Greene and General Medrano are, respectively, a high-ranking member of Quantum and a wannabe dictator. Causing a nationwide drought in Bolivia and framing the government for it, the two plan to start a coup to place Medrano in charge as a puppet dictator. Attempting to murder Bond and Camille by shooting down their plane, Medrano then sends an army of his men to kill them when they survive. When Bond and Camille Rivera Montes raid their compound, Greene expresses mild annoyance at the death of his men while Medrano attempts to strangle Camille to death when she confronts him, mocking her about having done the same to her mother and sister.
    • Le Chiffre—"The Number"—is an underworld banker who funds terrorism all around the world. Using his own terrorist activities to attack companies he bets against on the stock market, Le Chiffre has Miami International Airport attacked so his bomber can destroy a jet before its reveal. This plan foiled by Bond, Le Chiffre is left in debt, so he stages a poker game to save his own life. Not above cheating like having Bond poisoned or trying to torture the bank account out of him with a carpet beater to the groin when Bond wins, Le Chiffre meets his end when his superiors grow tired of his untrustworthiness.
  • Kushiel's Legacy's Imriel('s) Trilogy:: General Astegal is a corrupt Carthaginian general seeking to dominate Aragonia and Terra d'Ange. Arranging a brutal war with the former, Astegal uses magic to turn Terra d'Ange to his side to conquer Aragonia. Replacing memories of Prince Imriel to the people of Terra d'Ange, Astegal also marries Imriel's fiancée Sidonie and redirects her desire for Imriel to him while trying to kill Imriel.
  • Sąd Rodzinny (Family Court)'s "Bestia" ("Beast"): Tomasz Radwan is a teenager fascinated with American serial killers and what it would be like to see someone die. After failing to persuade a friend to murder said friend's little sister, Radwan instead kidnaps another girl, the 9-year-old Aleksandra Kaliciak, imprisoning and brutally torturing her for an entire day. The next day, Radwan first chokes her before throwing her into a river where the young girl drowns. Upon his trial, Radwan shows absolutely no remorse, with the judge claiming to find it difficult to even call him human.
  • Runaways (2017) season 3: Morgan le Fay is an ancient witch banished to the Darkforce Dimension, a realm of madness and torture that well supplements her own power-hungry cruelty. Once an enemy of the Minoru family who sought to manipulate Tina into stealing the Staff of One to further her dark machinations, Morgan reemerges in the present to bring Tina's daughter Nico to her side, escaping her prison and subjecting countless denizens of the Darkforce to death or insanity in the process of enacting her horrific will. Taking over the PRIDE's resources, Morgan converts millions into her mindless slaves in a ritual to merge Earth with the Darkforce Dimension, intent on trapping humanity in endless nightmares as she reshapes the world to her pleasure. Along the way, Morgan delights in all manner of petty sadism, such as spitefully murdering Tina's husband; attempting to sacrifice Molly Hernandez by blasting her with lightning; torturing Alex Wilder for months until he kills a visage of his own mother; and killing Gertrude Yorkes in one Bad Future, thoroughly proving herself beneath all her justifications as a megalomaniacal, proudly soulless bully.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) & Captain Marvel (2019): Ronan the Accuser is a genocidal Kree terrorist and renegade wholly devoted to the destruction of the planet Xandar out of xenophobic zealotry and slighted family pride over the deaths of his forebears. Once in charge of the Accusers, Ronan would lead them in bombing planets suspected of harboring Skrulls, at one point trying to do the same to Earth. Disgusted by his people signing a peace treaty, Ronan enacts massacres throughout the galaxy and confronts a captive member of Xandar's Nova Corps, crushing the helpless man's skull with his Universal Weapon. As a henchman of the Mad Titan Thanos, Ronan seeks to gather an item for Thanos so that he will destroy Xandar for him. Under Thanos, Ronan has committed multiple murders, including the deaths of Drax the Destroyer's wife and daughter. Ronan later pursues the motley band of Guardians to the space prison the Kyln, and orders a full massacre of every prisoner to Leave No Witnesses. When he realizes the power of the Infinity Stone he has been sent to retrieve, Ronan double-crosses Thanos and vows to kill him after he's finished with Xandar. Assaulting the planet, he even orders his own men to become suicide bombers by flying their ships into Xandar, injuring and killing numerous civilians, before killing over 80,000 members of the Nova Corps in one fell swoop. After mocking Drax about finally remembering murdering his family, he declares Xandar "guilty" by his psychopathic philosophy and attempts to purge it of all life.
  • Thor: Laufey is the King of Jotunheim, who once led his Frost Giant army on a mission to use the Casket of Ancient Winters to freeze the entire universe and rule over the icy remains. Though stopped by Odin and swearing to a truce, Laufey breaks the truce to send Frost Giant assassins to infiltrate Asgard and steal back the Casket. When this is foiled and he is approached by Loki, Laufey realizes Loki is his own son, who Laufey abandoned to die as a baby years ago; Laufey's only reaction to his son being alive is to sneer that he is weak. Laufey then makes a pact with Loki to murder Odin in his sleep and ascend Loki to the throne of Asgard, so that Laufey can then turn the Casket on all the other realms and wipe out all life except his own people.
  • Captain America: The First Avenger: Johann Schmidt, the Red Skull, is a rogue Nazi scientist who created the splinter cell "Hydra" to satisfy his own aims at godhood. After a failed attempt to use a faulty super soldier serum on himself to achieve this power, Red Skull has the serum's creator assassinated to stop the Americans from using it. Red Skull captures hundreds of soldiers in World War II and uses them as guinea pigs and test subjects for his experiments, then tries to kill them all alongside hundreds of his own men in an explosion to tie up loose ends. Red Skull's ultimate goal is to use the powerful Cosmic Cube's energy to stage a massive bombing campaign on various countries worldwide, willing to "blow up half the planet" just to prove his power to humanity.
  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier:
    • Brock Rumlow poses as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent when in reality he's an assassin for Hydra. Having killed their enemies for years, Rumlow leads the manhunt against Captain America and Black Widow, even witnessing the torture the Winter Soldier endures with no reaction, losing his canon counterpart's only moment of humanity. On the day of the Hydra Uprising, Rumlow personally launches the helicarriers for Project Insight, knowing that doing so will lead to millions of innocent deaths. He is uncaring when confronted with the damage his actions will cause, only bragging to Sam Wilson that Hydra will rule the world.
    • Arnim Zola is the engineer of Hydra's resurgence within S.H.I.E.L.D., having taken it over after Red Skull's demise. Spending decades turning S.H.I.E.L.D. into a front for Hydra, Zola masterminded decades of war and catastrophes to convince the world to willingly hand over free will, with even his own death unable to stop his reign of terror. Zola is also the man responsible for Bucky Barnes' torture and transformation into the Winter Soldier. After uploading himself into a computer, Zola masterminded Project Insight, the systematic murder of millions of innocents who could potentially pose a threat to Hydra's reign over the world, and is so determined to see it succeed that he lets himself be destroyed in a bomb designed to kill Captain America and Black Widow.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy (2014): Ronan the Accuser, also known as "The Warlord" and "The Butcher", views weakness as the greatest crime of all and seeks to expunge it from the galaxy. Introduced crushing the skull of a member of the Nova Corps out of spite and rage, Ronan has led the massacre of countless planets and people, to the point that when Drax confronts him about the murder of his family, Ronan can't remember who he's talking about. After slaughtering everyone in the Kyln to cover his movements and leading an assault on Knowhere, Ronan gets control of the Power Stone and launches a full-scale invasion of Xandar, killing countless innocents. Though the Guardians of the Galaxy stop him, Ronan comes mere inches away from destroying the entire planet and killing billions of innocent people.
  • Doctor Strange (2016): The Dread Dormammu is the ruler of the Dark Dimension and seeks to bring all of existence into his realm of eternal torment, having already captured countless planets to subject them to endless torture. Reaching out to Kaecilius and manipulating him into becoming a willing servant, Dormammu has him attack the three Sanctums across the world, weakening the magical barriers around Earth enough for him to invade. Attempting to suck all of Earth into his hell dimension and only being stopped by Dr. Stephen Strange trapping him in a time loop, Dormammu repays Kaecilius for his efforts by trapping him and his Zealots in the Dark Dimension, with Strange witnessing countless of Dormammu's previous followers having already been trapped in the same manner.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: Ego the Living Planet is a self-obsessed Celestial who spent millions of years pondering his purpose, and came to the conclusion that it was nothing less than the total absorption of all life in the universe, until the only thing that exists is himself. Unable to achieve his "Expansion" with his power alone, Ego set about seducing and impregnating countless women on countless worlds, hoping that one of his spawn would be gifted with his Celestial capabilities. All of his children, numbering in the millions, who have failed to have this power are quickly killed by Ego. When Ego discovers his son Peter Quill has Celestial potential, Ego tries to convince him to betray his friends and help the Expansion come to pass, revealing in the process that Ego was the one who killed Peter's mother Meredith with a brain tumor; Ego did it simply because his love for Meredith was too much of a distraction. Ego then breaks Peter's beloved Walkman and tries to forcefully convert Peter into a "battery" for thousands of years, willing to abuse and kill yet another of his children to satisfy his own twisted desires.
  • Fear Lords:
    • Nightmare, one of the oldest and most bitter enemies of Doctor Strange, is the ruler of the Dream Dimension. One of the Fear Lords who plagues mankind with nightmares, Nightmare has repeatedly attempted to trap them in unending torment and anguish for their nightmares to feast off the results. A Serial Rapist, Nightmare once violated a succubus to ensure their offspring would burn through the mother in the birth and later raped Betty Ross to produce another child, among others. Consistently returning with grandiose schemes, Nightmare refuses to cease until all that leaves is reduced to insane or agonized shells to suffer in dreams.
    • The Dweller-in-Darkness once annihilated all existence by destroying the M'Kraan crystal, planning to feed off the fear of an entire universe before the end. When the new and recent universe formed, the Dweller once again tried the same tactic, despairing when such was prevented. The Dweller-in-Darkness constantly enjoys the agonizing pain and death of his victims, while also swaying innocents into suicide so they may be corrupted into his abused thralls. As one of the leaders of the Fear Lords, the Dweller-in-Darkness plotted to unleash the Ultimate Fear upon existence to harvest as much terror as possible from all the resulting death.
  • The Adventures of Teebo: A Tale of Magic and Suspense: The aptly-named Vulgarr prides himself on being the nastiest and the craftiest of the almost uniformly evil Duloks. Vulgarr sets to prove this reputation by kidnapping an Ewok child and framing it on the benevolent Grudakk, sending the Ewok warriors to go and dispatch the beast while leaving the village unguarded. There, Vulgarr has all the villagers brutalized and beaten, then kidnaps all their children, down to the babies, with the express purpose of butchering and eating them all. Vulgarr even threatens to burn the kids alive to ward off the Ewok warriors when they figure out his ruse.
  • Lakeview Valley: The Witch was a human woman who became the Queen of the Underworld upon her passing because of her sheer, unfettered evil. The Witch is the mother of the Player Character, as well as one of the villagers, Amy Cooper, each of whom she sired in a complex gambit to damn the entire town of Lakeview Valley to eternal torture. In the endings where she succeeds in corrupting her offspring, the Witch has the townspeople massacred and their souls brought to the Underworld, where she leaves them to the ravages of the demonic fiends; what follows is an orgy of rape, torture, forced incest, and Body Horror as the fiends torture their victims in every wicked way imaginable. Entire families are Forced to Watch each other being tortured, their eyelids peeled away, and victims are mutilated beyond the point of any recognition. The Witch saves the worst fate for her own daughter, Amy Cooper; disgusted with Amy's failure to live up to her evil potential, the Witch has her gang-raped by the fiends past the point of the Despair Event Horizon. Even her care for the player character is dependent entirely on their usefulness to her; in the endings where they die, the Witch gloatingly rules them a failure, telling their murderer "you can kill as many of my children as you want".
  • The Riverside Incident: The Riverside Ripper is a sadistic cultist who targeted dozens of people across the Midwestern USA. Hunting down and torturing innocent people, he claimed the lives of two families, including five children, before burning the houses down. Keeping himself out of the eyes of the law, the unidentified suspect brutally decapitates the former psychiatrist Dr. Eckhardt and sets documents which could tie back to him on fire before kidnapping some witnesses and sending them to have their organs harvested. An active Serial Killer with Pyromaniac tendencies, the Riverside Ripper sets fire to one more house as he watches the police swarm, before leaving the scene to never be seen again.
  • Welcome to the Game series:
    • First game & The Waiting Room DLC: The Executioner is the sole runner of the Red Room, who kidnaps and tortures innocent people for the entertainment of The Deep Web watchers, with his dungeon filled with medical and acid equipment as well as tapes of his crimes. Taunting his victims and laughing at their suffering while acting as an entertainer to the sick livestream watchers, the Executioner shows himself to be one of the most depraved people on the Deep Web.
    • First & second games: The Doll Maker is a surgeon hosting a website on the Deep Web to sell his products. Buying poor women from halfway houses, the Doll Maker takes them to his clinic and transforms them into "easily manageable toys", amputating their arms and legs in the process. After the transformation, the Doll Maker psychologically tortures them until they accept their new lives, keeping two "living dolls" for himself. The women who suffered this fate are completely aware of what is happening to them, but are unable to move or speak. In the sequel, the Doll Maker "improved" his methods so his victims would last longer and be more obedient. Tracking Clint Edwards after he visits his website, the Doll Maker leaves a living doll with signs of abuse in front of his door and shuts off his energy, then puts a knife against this throat and politely tells him that he hopes Clint enjoyed what he had seen, before threatening to kill him if he doesn't give him a woman from his own apartment complex to be his next victim.
  • The Greatest Adventure: Stories from the Bible's "Queen Esther": Haman is the ambitious and petty advisor of King Ahasuerus who manipulates the king into banishing his wife. Leading the search for candidates for new royal wife, Haman developed a hatred for the Jew Mordecai after the latter refuses to bow to him. Haman manipulates the king into passing a law by which all Jews in the empire are to be eradicated, while also trying to speed up Mordecai's execution.

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#22423: Aug 6th 2023 at 2:46:26 PM

[tup] for Grodd, Jack, and Max.

There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#22424: Aug 6th 2023 at 2:57:08 PM

[tup] to Wendigo, Gorilla Grodd, Jack and Maximilian.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#22425: Aug 6th 2023 at 3:12:26 PM

Yes to M Ax, too!

Also, Dragon Prince: So, no new keepers. Kim'dael actually appears in animated form and slaughters some people, so her keeper status is more airtight than ever. The new arc villain, Finnegrin is probably bad enough but clearly likes his hermit crab pet and is upset the dragon of the sea killed his other pet. I'm not buying it's fully just pragmatic and "this's all mine," he's genuinely pretty upset for it.


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