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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1: Jan 6th 2023 at 5:15:26 PM

Reveals the evilness of a character whose true nature is a spoiler.

MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#2: Jan 6th 2023 at 5:37:45 PM

As I stated on the cleanup thread, if Aizen’s villainy is considered something that needs to be spoiler-marked, then a whole mini-cleanup thread would have to be made for all the examples I’ve seen on this wiki that don’t treat it like a spoiler.

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snowfire Quintesson Prosecutor from Unspace Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Quintesson Prosecutor
#3: Jan 6th 2023 at 8:36:57 PM

Bad reason, Keep

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#4: Jan 6th 2023 at 11:55:39 PM

From what I know, his true colours is It Was His Sled. And, to my knowledge, we're not supposed to treat IWHS as spoilers. So, unless someone has a better suggestion, the current should be kept imo.

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#6: Jan 7th 2023 at 4:25:01 AM

Keep.

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Hi
#7: Jan 7th 2023 at 9:06:02 AM

Keep per the aforementioned reasons.

ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#8: Jan 7th 2023 at 4:57:51 PM

As someone with next to no anime experience, I think it's plausible for someone not to know this spoiler. Further, there's no guarantee everyone coming to the page will know that it's spoilers off. I'm not a hardline proponent of cutting, but I do think a non-spoiler would be preferable.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#9: Jan 8th 2023 at 1:25:35 AM

I'd rather pull because it's a weak pic with bad quality.

Also, if we can't use spoiler images for other subpages we shouldn't use one here.

Edited by Karxrida on Jan 8th 2023 at 1:26:01 AM

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She / Her
#10: Jan 8th 2023 at 1:26:40 AM

[up]If I'm correct, the low quality is actually because the episode is old.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#11: Jan 8th 2023 at 11:02:33 AM

Anecdotally I never consumed Bleach, but was aware he was a villain from Pop-Cultural Osmosis, so I can take it or leave it. Looking it up, the pictured episode is roughly 1/6 of the way into the anime, YMMV if that's early enough to forgive as a twist.

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#12: Jan 8th 2023 at 1:06:06 PM

Yeah uh Aizen is one of the most famous bad guy off all time. Which kinda makes trying to spoil him being a villain kinda pointless.

Would like a quality upgrade. Or maybe switch in the manga panel this is based on?

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#13: Jan 8th 2023 at 1:39:09 PM

[up] Is he now? I've never heard of him.

(I don't plan on watching Bleach any time soon, so I won't cast a vote here.)

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 8th 2023 at 6:39:23 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#14: Jan 8th 2023 at 2:02:10 PM

I have no opinion other than the image is pretty low quality and I am wondering if we could get a quality upgrade?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 8th 2023 at 4:03:02 AM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#15: Jan 8th 2023 at 2:28:18 PM

Yeah I'm gonna call Fan Myopia there. I am not unfamiliar with anime/manga stuff due to osmosis but have never heard of this dude.

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#16: Jan 8th 2023 at 2:42:57 PM

Right, it's easy to say a character is super famous if you know who he is. I don't, really.

Not that I'm that bothered by the image, spoiler images are sort of tricky because typically unless you know the work, you won't even be aware you're being spoiled right then. Someone would have to begin the work and then read the Monster/ page before finding out about Aizen for the spoiler to really mean anything (even just seeing the picture before watching the show might not mean anything since you could easily forget about it).

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ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#17: Jan 8th 2023 at 7:32:32 PM

I agree that this is Fan Myopia - despite being one of the Big Four, Bleach hasn't stuck around as a phenomenon the same way Dragon Ball or Naruto has, at least in the US. While it's true that Monster pages are spoilers off, and therefore, it's unlikely anyone would see the image who has a problem with it, it's still plausible if the start from the Blach page and aren't aware of the policy.

Weak pull in order to stay consistent with site guidelines.

FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#18: Jan 8th 2023 at 7:43:34 PM

Actually, now that I look at it, I have a better argument: more importantly than whether or not people know about it (which, as mentioned previously, can fall under Fan Myopia), the twist has also become a Late-Arrival Spoiler. As far as I understand, this is because the arc has run for so long that it's impossible for any official media not to spoil the twist.

[down] Yes, but we're using different tropes. You went with Pop-Cultural Osmosis, I cited Late-Arrival Spoiler instead.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 8th 2023 at 12:48:40 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: Jan 8th 2023 at 7:46:57 PM

Well, yeah. My 1/6 comment above was meant to be "he's revealed as the villain 1/6 of the way through and then proceeds to be grandiosely evil for the next 5/6".

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Enid Sinclair
#20: Jan 8th 2023 at 7:48:57 PM

I still want to know if it can get a bit of a quality upgrade?

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Classy, Refined, Unstable
#21: Jan 9th 2023 at 3:21:41 PM

I know little to nothing about Anime in general so I don't know the notoriety of Aizen. The guy does have his own character page so that shows that he's a least an important character.

While a quality upgrade could be done. I personally think the image just looks weird tbh.

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MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#22: Jan 9th 2023 at 5:17:13 PM

That is indeed more what I meant- his villainy is so well known that official material no longer treats it as a spoiler.

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ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#23: Jan 9th 2023 at 5:39:44 PM

That's actually a pretty good point. If official materials treat it as a non-spoiler, I'm good keeping the image. (I don't have any issues with the current quality, but I obviously won't complain if someone wants to trade up.)

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#24: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:08:23 PM

I managed to not know Aizen was a villain prior to getting into Bleach, but that was years ago. What I would say is the biggest problem with what it depicts is the identity of the character he's stabbing. Even people who don't know the work but know Aizen is a villain aren't as likely to know exactly what villainous deeds he's done without reading the manga.

That said, it's a really bad quality picture, which I think is the single, biggest reason for pulling it.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Jan 9th 2023 at 2:08:56 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#25: Jan 10th 2023 at 9:09:15 AM

I disagree it's bad quality enough to pull, it's passable on my widescreen monitor. Cut some of these pre-HD 2000s anime some slack [lol]

Image Pickin': Monster.{{Bleach}}
15th Jan '23 9:06:25 AM

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Vote up to keep the image, and down to pull it

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