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Old Complete Monster cleanup thread

Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

What goes through this thread?

    Examples 
  • Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
  • If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
  • If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.

What does not go through this thread?

    Examples 
  • New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
  • Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
    • Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
    • If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
  • Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved CMs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
  • Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
  • Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
    • Spelling and grammar fixes.
    • Pothole changes.
    • Minor rewordings.
    • Spoiler tags.

While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:

  1. Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
  2. If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
  3. Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.

Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.

As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

LarryT Since: Aug, 2023
#13826: May 11th 2024 at 6:26:14 AM

Easy cut

Edit: bumping since you were bottom paged

Edited by LarryT on May 11th 2024 at 6:27:07 AM

Evanpotter09 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13828: May 11th 2024 at 8:20:13 AM

I'm fine with a cut.

Passing: Please use Sandbox.Monster Devil May Cry (and don't forget image pickin').

EDIT: I see you have used that template [lol]

Gliver should probably go before the Animated stuff.

Edited by ACW on May 11th 2024 at 11:22:13 AM

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
TurlesTheVegan Mr. House from The Darkest Pit of the Underworld Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Mr. House
#13829: May 11th 2024 at 9:22:36 AM

Cut Alex.

Agreeing with ACW that Gilver could go before the animated series trio.

KratsUf (Troper in training)
#13830: May 11th 2024 at 12:16:11 PM

found this under Batman: The Telltale Series

Complete Monster: "Guardian of Gotham" & "City of Light": The Vales, John and Patricia, are a pair of monstrous foster parents who are responsible for Lady Arkham's insanity. Under the guise of being loving parents, the Vales take in foster children, but truthfully only want the government stipends that the kids' presences bring. Showcasing their heinous hatred for children, the Vales would lock their kids inside an underground room, shackling them and beating them bloody with belts over the course of many years, regarding the children as nothing but animals to abuse and profit from to their liking. They’re even worse than Thomas Wayne who, even though he drugged Esther Cobblepot into insanity, thus causing Oswald to become the Penguin, truly loved his son Bruce.

was this approved?

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#13832: May 11th 2024 at 12:18:50 PM

They're also on DC Video Games

Though there appears to have been some unapproved changes to it

Edited by Agentofchaos on May 11th 2024 at 2:50:31 PM

REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
KratsUf (Troper in training)
#13833: May 11th 2024 at 12:53:46 PM

That would explain why it looks so terrible

Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#13834: May 11th 2024 at 12:54:26 PM

I changed it back

REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
KratsUf (Troper in training)
PassingThrough Since: Feb, 2024
#13836: May 11th 2024 at 1:32:45 PM

Would it benefit DMC to split the original continuity stuff like?:

Franchise-Wide

  • Mundus

Video Games

  • Arkham
  • Sanctus

Light Novels

  • Gilver

The Animated Series

  • Sid
  • The butler
  • The warden

Ghal-Sur Since: Jan, 2023
LarryT Since: Aug, 2023
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
MasterJoseph Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object from Not telling. Since: Mar, 2018
RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#13843: May 11th 2024 at 6:14:28 PM

Cut Alex, who was apparently grandfathered-in

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Daily Bugle (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
LarryT Since: Aug, 2023
#13845: May 11th 2024 at 7:06:36 PM

This is why I’m opposed to grandfathering in as a whole.

Thermal7 Since: Oct, 2018
#13846: May 12th 2024 at 12:09:17 AM

I've noticed some unapproved changes to Kombayn Nikoladze's entry

This is from Monster.Video Games Q To S It's a very tiny change but was still done without approval.

Draxterrus An Eldritch Troper Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
An Eldritch Troper
#13847: May 12th 2024 at 2:12:02 AM

[up] I think the edit is fine, or we can carry it over to the Monster subpage.

Also I'll give a [tup] to Passing's Devil May Cry format.

Edited by Draxterrus on May 12th 2024 at 5:12:48 PM

Humanity is defined by its absurdity, and I am no exception.
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13848: May 12th 2024 at 2:13:10 AM

Doesn't like it was done with approval, but I prefer it.

Edited by ACW on May 12th 2024 at 7:07:51 AM

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#13849: May 12th 2024 at 2:29:48 AM

(redacted post, sorry was meant to post this somewhere else)

Edited by RobertTYL on May 12th 2024 at 5:32:04 PM

Evanpotter09 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#13850: May 12th 2024 at 3:29:53 AM

So a few days ago I posted my rewrite for the Cars 2 duo, but barely got any comments about it. What does everybody think?

What, like it's hard?

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