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Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

What goes through this thread?

    Examples 
  • Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
  • If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
  • If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.

What does not go through this thread?

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  • New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
  • Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
    • Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
    • If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
  • Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved CMs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
  • Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
  • Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
    • Spelling and grammar fixes.
    • Pothole changes.
    • Minor rewordings.
    • Spoiler tags.

While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:

  1. Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
  2. If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
  3. Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.

Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.

As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#11676: Jan 13th 2024 at 6:54:34 PM

Requesting an alteration made to the Star Wars page - several years ago I proposed Typhojem, a mythical deity from the online novella Supernatural Encounters, which was commissioned by Lucasfilm before the reboot but never published, then released on the author's own website. I am not requesting his removal, rather his moving to another section of the page.

See, more recently, Lucasfilm's Story Group confirmed that, while they did commission the story, they ultimately rejected the final product for revealing too much about the series' mysteries. Therefore I request that Typhojem be moved from the Legends/Literature heading to the Other heading at the very bottom with the other "apocrypha" characters, since Lucasfilm has officially said the story was rejected for official canonization.

Typhojem is mentioned in canonical works (both Legends and the new canon) but just as "freaky thing the Sith worshipped;" he only has actual evil deeds to his name in the online story.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Jan 13th 2024 at 8:59:03 AM

jlvs200s from The Netherlands (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I miss my wife, Tails
#11677: Jan 14th 2024 at 2:15:09 AM

Cut the RWBY Fic Trio and Serena

"The time has come for every last Shoppe... No! The time has come for the DREAM KINGDOM to bow down to me! Gotcha ! Hee-hee!" | He/Him
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#11678: Jan 14th 2024 at 4:35:27 AM

HT, feel free to make any appropriate changes in the Sandbox. Just make sure you add it to the swap list when you're done.

TheLaurelCrownedRaven Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#11679: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:06:43 AM

Cut the four fanfic examples.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#11680: Jan 14th 2024 at 8:33:01 AM

[up][up] Moved it on the Star Wars sandbox page.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#11681: Jan 14th 2024 at 10:28:39 AM

  • Solomon Goldsmith, lacking the redeeming qualities of his anime version, is a sadistically gleeful scientist and Amshel's brother who assists him in his plans. A Chevalier of Diva's who indulges in his scientific curiosities as a way to encourage him to continue living, Solomon oversees numerous human experiments and Chiropteran massacres, even having an entire village turned to test out Saya's capabilities. Assisting Amshel in his plan to claim Riku as Diva's "bridegroom" to see if a Chiropteran can give birth, when Diva goes against his wishes, Solomon bails on his brother's plans. Obsessed with making Saya his bride, Solomon feigns a change of heart to get Saya and Red Shield to help him kill Amshel, even hoping to use Diva to continue his experiments.
  • My Hero Academia:
    • All For One, the Symbol of Evil, was a nameless child born with the power to steal Quirks. Forming an egotistical belief that all life existed only for his benefit, he killed his way through countless innocents while stockpiling their Quirks and building a criminal empire to become the ultimate "Demon Lord" from the comics of his youth. Murdering his own brother Yoichi in a fit of rage for defying him, All For One annihilated the rebellion against him while erasing entire bloodlines to stamp out any hope of rebellious sparks. Killing numerous successors of Yoichi's Quirk, One For All, All For One was ultimately defeated and seemingly slain by the great hero All Might. Surviving in the shadows, All For One steadily corrupts youths to serve as new villains, using some as experiments to create monsters and later dispatches his legion to murder an entire class of young students. After supposedly elevating the traumatized young Tenko Shimura/Tomura Shigaraki as his successor, All For One plans to possess and erase him. Upon the final war, All For One abandons even some of his most loyal henchmen to death while attempting to take a powerless All Might and break him before the entire world he intends to model after his own twisted fantasies.
    • Goto Imasuji, better known as "Muscular", is a sadistic supervillain with a Quirk that allows him to control his muscles and augment his body. Caring only for bloodshed and murder, Muscular attempted to massacre a town before being stopped by the hero duo Water Hose. Torturing and killing the two, Muscular later tries to murder their young son Kota for fun. Later released from prison, Muscular attempts to rampage across numerous towns and cities to massacre any civilian he can find, rejecting any overture from Izuku Midoriya and stating he only cares about indulging his appetite for murder.
  • Punisher/Captain America: Blood & Glory: US Attorney General Roger Mollech and his aide Angela Stone scheme to turn Medisuela into their puppet regime for profit. Helping the ruthless General Miguel Alfredo "Tony" Navatilas turn Medisuela into a dictatorship, Mollech and Stone funnel lethal drugs from his country into America and flood the streets with it, uncaring of the countless lives lost. Arming Navatilas's military with powerful guns, Mollech and Stone coach him to invade multiple nearby countries; they actually have sabotaged the weapons so that they will wipe out Navatilas's own army and pave the way for the US to invade Medisuela. To further along the invasion, Mollech and Stone order a PMC group to use army helicopters to slaughter streets of Medisuelan citizens. Having Navatilas assassinated, Mollech and Stone torture and kill anyone in their way to power.
  • The Beyond:
    • Issue 10's "Release from Satan's Scourge": Satan himself is a wicked master of evil who plans on bringing Hell on Earth and eternally torturing humanity. He was defeated and sealed in a book by Duke Black when his demons terrorised the Duke's land, before being freed by the skeptical Gil Jenkins. Satan sends his demons to kill Duke's numerous descendants and destroy his grave, letting Gil live so he could see Satan spreading his evil across the world.
    • Issue 23's "Minion of the Bloody Horsemen":
      • Hans Richter is a bloodthirsty and ambitious S.S. colonel whose service earned him the moniker "Butcher of Rome". After being saved from execution and brought to Ancient Rome by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Hans willingly becomes their servant in return for power. Organising a slave rebellion and blackmailing the Emperor into giving him a Legion for the conquest of Africa, Hans plots to take the hand of the Emperor's daughter in marriage and take control of the Roman Empire. He leads his army to plunder and raze Africa's cities while spreading the Horsemen's evil, at one point ordering a crowd of starving people who asked him for bread killed. Returning to Rome after a plague kills half of his Legion, Hans kills the Emperor after learning his daughter has been struck by plague, declaring he doesn't need the Horsemen anymore and that he alone will conquer Rome.
      • The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse themselves are evil fiends who brought Hans to ancient Rome. Promising to make him the most powerful man in The Roman Empire if he serves them, the Horsemen assist him with organising a slave rebellion. The Horsemen join Hans in his conquest of Africa, assisting him while spreading their evil, leading to lots of death, starvation, and plague. Not even people at their side are safe, as a plague kills half of Hans's legion and their evil spreads to Rome as well, bringing the Empire to the brink of collapse.
  • Plants vs. Zombies fanfic The Outrage: Dr. James Edgar, known as Dr. Edgar George Zomboss, is a Control Freak who goes all out to abuse his undead minions after repeated failures. Having physically and psychologically abused his minions, Edgar shows no mercy as he mercilessly kills three of his innocent minions. Edgar then sadistically tortures his zombies with collars as they try to oppose him.
  • Cor Autem Aurora (Final Fantasy XV & Kingdom Hearts): Caligo Uldor (sic) is a commander in the Niflheim Empire, having a hand in the Empire's war crimes. Uldor is also a pedophile and Serial Rapist who uses his position to assault whatever boys and girls he can get his hands on, sometimes physically abusing them as well. After the conquest of Tenebrae, Uldor attempted to force himself on a young Lunafreya and Ravus. Sent to Lestallum to track down Noctis, Uldor grooms and manipulates Talcott into giving him access to the Leville Hotel, then attempts to interrogate Jared and beats the old butler half to death with his own cane, before sexually assaulting Iris. Depraved enough to have to restrain himself from raping Talcott while spying on him, Uldor earns the loathing of everyone around him, with even Ardyn and Vanitas disgusted by his actions.
  • Lantern Prime (Green Lantern & Transformers):
    • Unicron is the Avatar of Rage and enemy of the Cybertronians. Once an observer of stars and planets alongside his sister Primus, Unicron became enraged at the existence of organic creatures and tried to destroy them before being sealed into a moon by Primus. Eventually regaining his power, Unicron began to glass numerous planets to eradicate all life on them. Using his brother Ophidian as a Living Battery, Unicron attacked Mogo with the intent of destroying him, killing many Green Lanterns with Ophidian's constructs as they defend Mogo. Upon seeing his siblings Ion and Primus again, Unicron attacks them and declares his intent to imprison them within himself and use their power in his attempt to eradicate all life.
    • "Cybertron": Megatron is the vicious leader of the Decepticons. Intending to end the war between the Decepticons and Autobots, Megatron launches a giant missile at his home planet, killing every Cybertronian while leaving Optimus Prime alive to watch it happen.
  • Love and Monsters: Captain "Cap" Brooks Wilkinson, the leader of a trio of scavengers, hides his callous personality behind a front of friendly civility. Visiting colonies, Cap manipulates them into thinking that he's providing them a new life out in the world whereas in fact he's only after their supplies. Having captured a giant mutated crab and keeping it under constant abuse via Electric Torture, Cap has it devour the settlement's inhabitants once he's done stealing their loot. Drugging the people of Settlement 3022, a colony of mostly elders, Cap has them tied up to be devoured alive by the crab—also ordering one of his subordinates to shoot at Joel's dog when the latter tries to hinder his plans.
  • The Saint (1997): Ivan Tretiak is a Russian oil magnate who fancies himself the next Josef Stalin. Tretiak willingly causes a gigantic oil shortage and plunges all of Moscow into a deep freeze during the winter, resulting in scores of innocent people freezing to death on the streets and thousands more suffering. Tretiak hopes to use the anger he's fomented to Make the Bear Angry Again, hoping to discredit and frame his political rival Karpov and then ride the fallout into the President's seat, all while ordering the murders of anyone who could threaten him.
  • The Saint (1997) novelization, by Burl Barer:
    • Ivan Tretiak is even viler in this adaptation than he is in the film. An oil magnate whose "ambitions fill cemeteries", Tretiak plunges Moscow into an energy crisis in a plot to discredit and eventually murder his political rival President Karpov, letting dozens of people freeze in the streets so he can ride their anger into the President's seat. Along the way, Tretiak dispatches his loose cannon of a son, Ilya, to kill Simon Templar and anyone else in his way, resulting in a slew of dead bodies. A horrible employer as well, Ivan beats a corrupt cop on his payroll to death for letting Simon escape, and shoots his Reluctant Mad Scientist in the face for trying to escape his cruelty. As "sentimental as a rabid Doberman", Ivan intends to drag Russia back into a hellscape of "kangaroo courts, concentration camps [and] firing squads" that will rival the worst brutalities of the Stalinist regime, all so he can be on top.
    • Ilya, Ivan's son, is a Methedrine-addicted Neo-Nazi with a loose trigger finger. Ivan's chosen enforcer whenever he needs somebody to die, Ilya has a sadistic streak that surpasses even his father's. While chasing Simon Templar, Ilya kills innocent bystanders one after another, whether for giving him lip or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. After Ivan's scheme goes south, Ilya impulsively kills numerous Rosgvardiya soldiers and sets off a firefight that endangers a huge crowd of people. Finally, Ilya murders his own father Ivan, hoping to escape and one day slime into the Presidency himself after the dust settles.
  • Wax and Wayne: Telsin Ladrian/Sequence is a ruthless manipulator driven by an endless desire for more. A rule-breaker since childhood, she became much worse as she grew older, rising to be a high-ranking member of the Set, who recruited her similarly high-ranking uncle Edwarn. Found overseeing the torture and experimentation of Malwish, Telsin fools Wax into thinking that she was an unwilling participant forced by Edwarn, even killing one of her own men to maintain the guise. Telsin ultimately uses this opportunity to shoot Wax, her own brother, when he's off guard. When things begin to go poorly, Telsin promptly flees leaving Edwarn and all her subordinates behind. Resurfacing six years later, Telsin masterminds a plot to destroy the city of Elendel, inhabited by millions, claiming that it is necessary to stop a more destructive invasion from the god Autonomy, yet Telsin ignores less violent solutions, with the plan actually intended to impress Autonomy enough so that they will make Telsin a god. When it appears her plan will succeed, Telsin reveals to Wax that she has always hated him since childhood, and gloats about her success, revealing her to be nothing more than a petty and callous individual who only cares about proving herself superior to others, indifferent to the countless lives that her actions take.
  • Bez Namysłu ("Without a Second Thought"): Radosław Klamra, nicknamed "Kamaz", is a leader of the Polish-Ukrainian human trafficking gang. Under him, women are kidnapped, forced into prostitution, shipped across the border, and later sold into slavery. When police find the women that still haven't been shipped, they had completely lost their minds from the trauma. When police officer Łucja Wilk arrests some gang members and shoots Kamaz, injuring him, Kamaz decides to get his revenge by hiring a criminal to kidnap Łucja and ransom her to the police. Kamaz lets the kidnapper do with Łucja as he pleases, which ends up with her getting raped and put in a critical state. Even when arrested, Kamaz decides to do everything in power to come out on top and reveals how Officer Olgierd Mazur lost control over himself and shot the kidnapper dead after the latter gloated to Kamaz about raping Łucja.
  • Season 3: Father John Hughes is a member of The Economic League and by far its most vile member. A Pedophile Priest who raped the children under his "care", he notably disgusts even the hardened Tommy. When Tommy tries to kill Hughes, Hughes orders his men to ambush and beat Tommy up to the point his skull gets crushed. He later has Tommy "apologize" for trying to kill him in front of the League before being revealed to have molested Tommy's cousin, Michael Gray, in his childhood. He then has Tommy blow up a train full of innocents, so that he and the league could profit from its destruction. Should Tommy not do the deed, Hughes will rape and kill Tommy's son whom he's holding hostage.
  • "Some Conscience Lost": Cornelius Wilde, Director of Whitechapel Hospital, seemingly cares about sick children and tries to cure them of their illnesses. In reality, he kills them using poison, resulting in excruciating and painful deaths before hid their bodies under the floors of the lodging house. Poisoning children for two months, Wilde tries to cover up his crime by accusing the mother of one of the children he killed as being crazy, and when Inspector Reed confronts him about his atrocities, Wilde tries to justify himself by claiming that the children he killed were "useless" for society anyway and that he simply accelerated their "pathetic" lives. Having taken the lives of countless children, due to not wanting to spend money and effort on them, Wilde takes laziness to a truly monstrous level.
  • Slow Horses:
    • Dame Ingrid Tearney, First Desk of MI5, is a stone-cold schemer who desires the security of her position above all else. Already established as a ruthless leader in Season 1 when she orders the elimination of all witnesses to Hassan Ahmed's false flag kidnapping and has a reporter murdered for seeking the truth, Tearney is revealed to be much worse in Season 3. She tested a volatile, unsanctioned device in Istanbul that would enable her to wirelessly hack any computer system in the world, and when the device malfunctioned and hospitalized dozens of people, Tearney's only concern was covering up her hand in it. After killing MI5 agent Alison Dunn and framing it as a suicide, Tearney later learns that Alison's siblings, as well as her lover Sean, are trying to expose the truth. Tearney responds by ordering the cold-blooded executions of not just Sean and Alison's siblings, but also the entire Slough House team and anyone else in proximity of the truth. Hiding behind platitudes of serving her country, Tearney only values her personal power and is willing to kill anyone to maintain it.
    • Season 1: "Curly" is easily the most unhinged of the quartet of kidnappers calling themselves the "Sons of Albion". With the others, Curly kidnaps a student named Hassan based on his Pakistani ethnicity and announces Hassan will be decapitated on a livestream the following morning, ignoring Hassan's pleas that he was born and raised in Britain. Although the kidnapping is a False Flag Operation and Hassan isn't meant to be in danger, Curly is genuinely intent on killing Hassan so he can graduate from an "armchair soldier" to a real killer. In short order, Curly takes an axe to the face of one of the other Sons after figuring out he's a mole; shoots the other through the face for not wanting to go ahead with the plot; and tries to kill the last one for attempting to help Hassan escape. Curly also comes close to committing a horrific massacre at a gas station just to terrorize Hassan into compliance, in particular promising to make a mother watch as he decapitates her two toddlers, then her.
  • The Stranger Beside Me: Chris Gallagher, first appearing to be a charming and friendly man, turns out to be a Serial Rapist. Years prior to the start of the film, Chris molested his child sister, Dana, leaving her traumatized for years. Chris, upon marrying Jennifer Gallagher, eventually shows his true colors, being a verbally and physically abusive husband. Chris begins stalking Gina Colbert, shortly afterward breaking into her house and raping her at gunpoint. On the day of his baby daughter's delivery, Chris ditches Jennifer in the hospital to rape another woman. Jennifer, upon finding out that the man she married is a rapist, calls the police after he breaks into another woman's house, attempting to rape her.
  • The Amazing Spider-Man and Captain America in Dr. Doom's Revenge!: Dr. Doom, the brilliant, yet twisted dictator of Latveria, is more fiendish than usual in this game and tie-in comic. Dr. Doom steals a nuclear missile from an American military base in Europe and upgrades the nuclear missile so it cannot be stopped after it is launched. Dr. Doom contacts the US government and demands they give him control of the US or he will nuke New York City. Suspecting that the US government will send superheroes to Latveria to thwart his plans, Dr. Doom hires several supervillains to guard his castle and the missile, promising them riches if they succeed in stopping the heroes and death if they fail him.
  • Johnny Cash's "The Ballad of Annie Palmer": Annie Palmer is just as monstrous as she was in the original myth. The owner of Rose Hall Plantation, a sugarcane plantation where about 5,000 enslaved people worked, Palmer's slaves all lived in fear of her under the constant fear of whipping. Annie Palmer also murdered her three husbands and, despite having died hundreds of years ago, the narrator feels her presence at her house and hears her murdered lovers calling out in the night.
  • Super DED6 Galaxy's "Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity - Astor, Prophet of Doom with Lyrics": Astor, the Prophet of Doom, seeks to unleash Calamity Ganon to destroy the world to prove his prophecy right. Joining with the Yiga clan to destroy those who stand in his way, Astor later betrays the Yiga clan by killing them and using their souls to attack Kohga and Sooga. Finally unleashing Calamity Ganon to devour the world, Astor tells the heroes to accept their fate as he gleefully laughs for the world's end.
  • Settut, or Settuta, also known as Immas n Tadwit, the "First Mother of the World", is the cruel Goddess of Evil and Chaos. Once a benevolent creator goddess who, after learning she was sterile and sacrificing countless women and children in an attempt to make herself fertile and creating the stars out of their bones when that failed, became bitter and jealous at the world and dedicated herself to destroying it. To do this, Settut created destructive storms, floods, and eclipses, and introduced mankind to envy and greed, leading them to commit acts of war, slavery, theft, and murder against each other. Along the way, Settut created her palace of the bones of her many victims, counting each one every day. Resentful, sadistic, and with a preference for targeting children, Settut is responsible for all the misery of the world and is gleefully excited about the prospect of the day when the world will be consumed by the underworld.
  • "The Slavers" arc: Tiberiu Bulat is one of the titular slavers, and lacks his son Cristu or their associate and Cristu's lover Vera's redeeming qualities. Tiberiu led an Eastern European militia during The Yugoslav Wars responsible for ethnic cleansing, slaughtering several entire villages until Cristu got the idea to take young women captive, an idea that Tiberiu approved of. The countless women were forced into sexual slavery and sent to the United States to export the business, where they were further tortured and raped on a daily basis. Tiberiu is a sadistic, trigger-happy madman who'll kill anyone at the slightest provocation, introducing himself in the present horribly torturing and killing an entire gang of rivals just to send a message that he "isn't an old woman". When Cristu tries to assassinate him for being too volatile, Tiberiu eagerly tries to kill his own son, and holds an innocent at knifepoint in an attempt to ward off the Punisher.
  • Naked Kill, written by Jonathan Maberry: Polly Hu and Mickey Fane's nephew Eleventhree run a horrific human trafficking operation, and unlike Mickey himself, have no redeeming features. Taking monthly shipments of women and making rough pornography with them, they eventually force the women to kill one another until one can go free, only to make her film a video with Eleventhree, named for his massive size, to the point where Eleventhree simply rapes his victim to death. Polly also regularly brings Mickey girls to rape while filming Eleventhree in his movies. When the Punisher arrives, Eleventhree is in the middle of another rape-murder while Polly watches on with smug satisfaction.
  • Five Minutes to Midnight: Pan is the jovial, childlike leader of the Sunrise Society crime syndicate. Responsible for several accounts of child trafficking all across Mistral and beyond, Pan and the Sunrise Society abduct countless children and sell them off to wealthy families, with Cinder Fall and Emerald Sustrai being but two of many children, ending up child slaves in the Glass Unicorn. The children are mistreated, underfed, and implied to be sleep-deprived under the Sunrise Society's care, and the clients and members of the Sunrise Society aren't safe from Pan's power and wrath either, with the former killed if their activities attract too much legal attention, and the latter forced to join after the Sunrise Society bribes local hospitals into stopping treating their sick and wounded relatives unless they work for them. When Qrow Branwen, Taiyang Xiao Long, and Cinder storm his main base, Pan has no issue trying to imprison and later on kill them, with Cinder being no more than 15.
  • Event Horizon original script, by Philip Eisner (link): The entity possessing the Event Horizon—referred as "The Dark"—is a primordial being that attached itself to the ship following its descent into Hell, driving the crew to rape and mutilation. Finding more playthings in the rescue team, the Dark psychologically torments Justin until he's Driven to Suicide; has Peters fall to her death by posing as her son; and turns Dr. Weir into its minion, using him to vivisect another man. Torturing Captain Miller with visions of Hell, the Dark makes clear its intention to drag the survivors to Hell and torture them for eternity, all to prove that "nothing" is the reality of the universe.
  • The Wizard of Oz script (link): The Wicked Witch of the West herself was a darker character in the original screenplay. Having terrorized Oz for years with her sister, the Witch's only concern when her sister is killed by a house dropping on her is to attempt to loot her body for the powerful ruby slippers so she can rule Oz. When the slippers are placed on young Dorothy's feet, the Witch swears to kill her and her beloved dog Toto as well, stalking the girl as she makes her way across Oz and makes new friends. Threatening the entire Emerald City with death if they don't surrender Dorothy, the Witch eventually captures Dorothy and plans to painfully, slowly kill Toto and her entire group of friends while forcing Dorothy to watch before murdering the girl as well.
  • Bad Magic: Mr. Friendly is the "dark imagination made flesh" of Termoncara, where a Romanian man was falsely accused of murder and killed by the townsfolk. Born from the collective guilt of the murderers, Mr. Friendly and other monsters like him embodied the townsfolk's refusal to accept blame in favor of fearing those different from them, resulting in a massive increase in racist and homophobic murders as the monsters made Termoncara the "murder capital of Ireland" in just under two decades. Not content with this, Mr. Friendly schemed to escape Termoncara by manipulating the townsfolk into providing annual sacrifices for the monsters and murdering interlopers, personally killing his pawns should they fail. Seeking a host to possess, Mr. Friendly targeted the young Jamie Scanlon and began tormenting him, notably murdering his crush and gaslighting him into believing it was his fault. Mr. Friendly plans to seal his possession through massacre, setting his monsters to butcher the whole town while he tries to personally slaughter dozens of Jamie's classmates. Though born of fear and hate, Mr. Friendly goes far beyond his natural purpose to slake his sadism.
  • 1997 live-action film:
    • Malebolgia, the absolute ruler of Hell, seeks to destroy Heaven. Claiming lost souls for his army, Malebolgia engineers the death of CIA operative Al Simmons to force him to lead the damned, and spends the next five years causing millions of deaths to usher in the Apocalypse. Having Simmons' killer Jason Wynn hook himself up to a bioweapon that will eradicate the Earth, Malebolgia means to manipulate Simmons into killing Wynn to take all of humanity for his forces.
    • The Violator is the chief lieutenant of Malebolgia. Corrupting souls on Earth in his human guise as Clown, he promises Wynn domain over the Earth in return for helping the forces of Hell take Heaven. Instructed to bring Simmons to Hell, the Violator has Wynn set up a mission to betray and kill Simmons, the fallout allowing Wynn to murder thousands of innocent villagers in an explosion. When Simmons pledges his soul to Malebolgia and is returned to Earth, the Violator watches over him, seeking to corrupt him to evil by having him kill Wynn and after Simmons makes an attempt on Wynn's life, has Wynn connect himself to a switch that will set off a bioweapon and kill all life on Earth when he dies. When Simmons refuses to kill Wynn, the Violator tries to kill his family and rape his ex-fiancée Wanda while making Simmons watch.
    • CIA Director Jason Wynn is a power-hungry man in league with the forces of Hell. Believing they will allow him to rule Earth, Wynn tricks agents into killing innocents and has Simmons murdered in a dirty mission, setting up an explosion that kills thousands of innocent villagers. Killing millions to perfect his bioweapon, Heat-16, Wynn is convinced to attach himself to the weapon's switch, threatening to wipe out the world if it doesn't submit to his rule. When the revived Simmons tries to kill him, Wynn takes the latter's family hostage, including Simmons' young daughter Cyan.
  • Shadows of Spawn manga, by Juzo Tokoro: Malebolgia is a gargantuan devil who schemes to bring Hell on Earth. Regularly making deals with humans to supposedly grant their desires, Malebolgia twists and corrupts them into becoming demonic killers under his thrall. Using the Hellspawn as his puppets and pitting the likes of Ken Kurosawa against villains directed by Malebolgia to target Ken's beloved sister, Malebolgia ends the manga breaking down barriers between Hell and Earth so he can flood the world with his wickedness.
  • Cult of the Lamb: Midas is the greedy worshipper of unknown gods related to fortune and riches. Having turned various people into golden statues, leaving them alive and aware, Midas has the Lamb give him four of their followers to put them through the same fate, rewarding the cult leader only out of pragmatism and not hesitating to attack them when he decides to steal their money.
  • Phantoms in the Camp: Junior Hendergast is the monstrous cannibalistic son of Dorian Hendergast, who developed a taste for human flesh from birth, devouring his mother and father and many more, until he was killed. Turning into a powerful Phantom after death and creating his own Pocket Dimension, where he dragged the souls of his victims to enslave them to his will, Junior was responsible for the summer camp massacre in 1982, killing everyone but Sandy, leaving her alive solely so she would suffer endless fear and nightmares through the years, which made her "tastier" for Junior to hunt down, after she would eventually return to the ruined camp two years later to face her fears. Reducing most of the souls of his victims to a feral state, Junior tried to capture Sandy, and should she fail to collect all chants to seal him away, Junior will turn her into his minion and order her to slaughter her friends. In A House for Alesa 3, Junior returns as the most despicable of Mr. Alfred's three generals, helping his boss transform the world into one big horror while trying to make Alesa his next meal.
  • Piggy: TIO, The Iniquitous One, after being betrayed by "a friend from beyond", became "more than he ever once was". When Mr. P's cure goes awry and causes a outbreak, TIO would brainwash some of the infected and found the Insolence, a group dedicated to prevent a cure to the infection under the belief that free will is destructive, yet TIO is willing to lead a faction just as destructive. TIO later traps and attempts to kill the Player Character in their mind when they are about to introduce the cure to the world.
  • "Stuck in the Middle Ages with You": The unnamed Black Knight is in fact a modern aged and misogynistic young man, descending from a royal lineage. Seeking to restore his ancestors' former power and rule the modern world, the Black Knight uncovers time travel, and abducts military scientists and personnel to the Middle Ages and control the destructive Kill Sat E.N.D. to overthrow a past benevolent king. As the Black Knight, he aims to become a warmongering tyrant, leading attacks on the kingdom, using E.N.D. to decimate the King's knights, threatening to destroy his castle and village unless he hands over his crown. Upon taking over, the Black Knight plans to further conquer the medieval world, starting off by having E.N.D. fire upon a village, setting it ablaze.
  • "Creepy Crawly Much?": Max Exterminus was a successful but disgruntled exterminator, who decided to instead to lead and rule over all bugs if he couldn't exterminate them. Taking to gene splicing, Exterminus mutates himself into an insectoid hybrid to lead swarms of insects, and plans to wipe out all non-bug life on Earth and rule over what's left. Raiding military bases for their data, Exterminus creates a rocket filled with weaponized bug venom, planning to launch it into the Earth's jet stream and poison the atmosphere. Taking a lecherous fixation on Alex, Exterminus attempts to forcibly mutate her to be his "Queen" as he launches his rocket, making a remark about the larvae they'll have together in the new world.

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#11682: Jan 14th 2024 at 10:44:54 AM

Yang's character page is potholed to Taiyang, but he's her father, not her

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ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#11683: Jan 14th 2024 at 11:06:05 AM

I'll fix that. Are there any other ones like that at Monster RWBY Fan Works?

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#11685: Jan 14th 2024 at 3:33:50 PM

Just updated the "What goes through this thread?" section of the pinned post with a note about the approach for agreeing cuts without individual reviews. I've added a link to the wiki policy thread post.

(No other changes)

I'll put a similar note on the MB cleanup thread.

Let me know if anything I've amended doesn't look right.

cwallace135 Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: Singularity
#11686: Jan 15th 2024 at 7:30:24 AM

Hello! I hope that you are doing well! I proposed Xenos for the Approval thread way back when, but looking back, the entry I provided is very sloppy and glosses over a lot of important details. If you don't mind, I would like to rewrite it. Here is the original:

  • Dragalia Lost:
    • Xenos, aka The Progenitor, is a vengeful God who views humans as mere tools for him to use. Xenos was once a kind God who saw good things in humanity, but when humanity proved to be evil, Xenos grew angry. Xenos committed omnicide many times, and after being fed up with the way humanity was, he decided to take into his own hands and create a world where humanity doesn't have free will and are mindless slaves for Xenos to use as he wishes. Presently, he views humans with free will as trash, and believes that having a world where he gets to decide everything is the only world that should exist. Xenos even discarded his own heart, viewing it as useless; this literally makes him incapable of feeling positive emotions. At the end of the game, after Xenos is reawakened, he destroys the entire multiverse, and can alter reality in a way so that he always wins.

Here is my rewritten version:

  • Dragalia Lost:
    • Main Campaign: Xenos, aka The Progenitor, is a vengeful God who views humans as mere tools for him to use. Xenos was once a kind God who saw good things in humanity, but when they proved to be evil, Xenos grew angry. Xenos committed omnicide many times, and after being fed up with the way humanity was, he decided to take into his own hands and create a world where humanity doesn't have free will and are mindless slaves for Xenos to use as he wishes. Xenos even discarded his own heart, viewing it as useless, literally him incapable of feeling positive emotions. In the present day, Phares, who was desperate for a cure for his deadly Dragonscale disease, struck a deal with Xenos, only for Xenos to backstab him and take control of his body. Knowing that Xenos would re-awaken soon, the North Church of Grasta tried summoning Satan to stop him, though Xenos helped them, knowing that it would backfire. Eventually, Xenos re-awakens, destroying the entire multiverse just to create an individual world in which he gets all the say. Prince Euden, who is part of Xenos' long lost heart, tries to convince Xenos that there really is good in humanity and that he never gave them a proper chance, only for Xenos to deny how he is in the wrong. Even after losing the final battle, Xenos still tries to mess with the heroes' attempts to fix some of the damage that Xenos caused, showing just how much of a Sore Loser Xenos really is. Cold and ruthless, Xenos will stop at nothing to fulfill his own twisted ambitions.

Edited by cwallace135 on Jan 19th 2024 at 7:41:07 AM

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#11687: Jan 15th 2024 at 7:32:16 AM

The rewrite strikes me as way too long; can you get the missing info in in a more concise way?

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cwallace135 Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: Singularity
#11688: Jan 15th 2024 at 7:39:22 AM

^ Is that a bit better? I shortened it up as much as I could. It's hard documenting an entire biography in just a paragraph. Let me know if it's a bit better now. Thank you!

Edited by cwallace135 on Jan 15th 2024 at 7:40:32 AM

MemeMaster245 The Metal Reaper from Cornfield Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
The Metal Reaper
#11689: Jan 15th 2024 at 10:42:47 AM

I've been looking over some CMs and I wanted to bring up Courtney Gears:

Courtney Gears, pop sensation of the Solana Galaxy, doubles as The Dragon to Dr. Nefarious and is the one carrying out his goal of destroying all organic life in the galaxy. Courtney Gears operates Nefarious's Biobliterator—a device that subjects any organic to Unwilling Roboticisation, reducing them to mindless murder-bots—and tests it out on Skidd. Not only intending to use the Biobliterator on a much larger population, Courtney turns her latest hit into a sensation to encourage her loyal fans to kill any "squishies" that Nefarious doesn't convert with the Biobliterator.

I can't help but think that she doesn't do anything particularly too heinous. Yeah, she's helping Nefarious in his scheme to turn everyone into robots, but she doesn't even ulitise the main Biobliterator: she just tests it. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, we don't even get to see if her music video convinced anyone to actually attack organic lifeforms. I might be missing something but... should we cut?

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Son of Liberty
#11690: Jan 15th 2024 at 10:57:21 AM

She's a major component to Nefarious's scheme, houses and uses the Biobliterator on Skidd to make sure it works for Nefarious before sending it back off to him, creates the video encouraging all robots to align with Nefarious and kill all organics when the time comes...I think she's fine. She's come up quite a few times before and most feel that she has more than enough of a role in the schemes of Nefarious.

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MemeMaster245 The Metal Reaper from Cornfield Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
The Metal Reaper
#11691: Jan 15th 2024 at 11:06:50 AM

I guess my issue with the music video thing is that we never really see the ramifications of it. Again, if I remember correctly.

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Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#11692: Jan 15th 2024 at 11:18:08 AM

Pretty sure it's implied that she's releasing it only after the Biobliterator is used and that Ratchet and Clank simply stumble across the early copy that's just been edited that she's planning to release to encourage the genocide of organics, which would indicate why we don't see any effects. Because the idea is to release it when Nefarious begins his scheme to encourage total organic upheaval.

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#11694: Jan 15th 2024 at 11:25:49 AM

Keep Courtney Gears, I think I'm good with the Xenos expansion.

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#11695: Jan 15th 2024 at 11:26:56 AM

Keep Courtney and the xenos expansion seems okay now.

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