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Old Complete Monster cleanup thread

Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

What goes through this thread?

    Examples 
  • Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
  • If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
  • If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.

What does not go through this thread?

    Examples 
  • New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
  • Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
    • Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
    • If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
  • Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved CMs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
  • Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
  • Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
    • Spelling and grammar fixes.
    • Pothole changes.
    • Minor rewordings.
    • Spoiler tags.

While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:

  1. Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
  2. If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
  3. Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.

Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.

As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
G-Editor The 47th President Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The 47th President
#7678: Jul 14th 2023 at 2:53:22 PM

Well that's random. Anyone cut Dr. Malan then

My sandbox of EPs and other stuff
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#7679: Jul 14th 2023 at 3:05:23 PM

Ugh, so not only is it a small thing, but it's hidden. Sigh...cut.

DrUnknown Since: May, 2020
#7680: Jul 14th 2023 at 3:34:27 PM

Cut Dr. Geradus Malan. As the user who proposed this character, sorry everyone for missing this tidbit of information.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#7681: Jul 14th 2023 at 3:35:03 PM

Cut Malan.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#7682: Jul 14th 2023 at 3:39:04 PM

This seems less carelessness on your part and more the information truly being concealed to an unheard of degree. No harm

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
43110 (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
#7684: Jul 14th 2023 at 3:48:41 PM

Agreed with Lighty, sorry you had to lose him over that Unknown!

Mediamagician Since: Jul, 2023
#7685: Jul 14th 2023 at 4:02:59 PM

It's also partially information from a newer game in the series, I don't think this negatively affects the quality but it is what it is.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#7686: Jul 14th 2023 at 4:44:56 PM

Like, I'm even trying to think of some way that's not disqualifying, but nope.

Mediamagician Since: Jul, 2023
#7687: Jul 14th 2023 at 4:52:18 PM

@ACW It's possible that it's to make her into a soldier so he can be proud of his work given his ego, but there isn't anything that I could find that offsets the chance it's just to cure her cancer.

Edited by Mediamagician on Jul 14th 2023 at 4:53:40 AM

Derv0sB2 Since: Apr, 2020
#7688: Jul 14th 2023 at 5:39:32 PM

Made a slight edit to Florence Finnegan/the Plasmavore's EP on the CM Drafts, mainly attempting to adjust wording flow/a couple awkward wordings, fixing a past/present tense inconsistency, and slightly adding a couple details to her already-described acts to add an extra heinousness oomph. You can see the changes on the CM Drafts sandbox's History.

WetFlannels Classy, Refined, Unstable from Nearby, on a cosmological scale. Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Classy, Refined, Unstable
#7689: Jul 14th 2023 at 5:41:42 PM

[up] What did you add to it? I'd appreciate being able to see the difference in your post.

What's wrong D-16? Rise up!
Derv0sB2 Since: Apr, 2020
#7690: Jul 14th 2023 at 5:47:55 PM

[up] Previous version:

* "Smith and Jones": The Plasmavore taking the identity "Florence Finnegan" is a sadistic fugitive wanted for the murder of the "Child Princess" of a distant world-a crime she took immense pleasure in. When the Judoon isolate the hospital she's hiding in, Florence kills a doctor by drinking his blood to assimilate his DNA to blend in with the humans. To escape her predicament, Florence sets up MRI equipment to blast out a wave that would kill everyone within the hospital and half of Earth, with her remarking that the surviving side is her "little gift". Even when facing her demise, Florence activates the MRI device, dooming billions of lives out of petty spite.

Current version:

* "Smith and Jones": The Plasmavore taking the identity "Florence Finnegan" is a sadistic fugitive wanted for the murder of the "Child Princess" of a distant worlda crime she took immense pleasure in. When the Judoon isolate the hospital she's hiding in, Florence kills a doctor by forcibly drinking all his blood, to assimilate his DNA and blend in with the humans. To escape her predicament, Florence sets up MRI equipment to blast out a wave that will kill everyone within the hospital and half of all vertebrate life on Earth, remarking that the surviving half is her "little gift". Even when facing her certain demise, Florence goes out of her way to activate the MRI device, attempting to doom billions of lives out of petty spite.

Edited by Derv0sB2 on Jul 14th 2023 at 5:48:58 AM

WetFlannels Classy, Refined, Unstable from Nearby, on a cosmological scale. Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Classy, Refined, Unstable
#7691: Jul 14th 2023 at 5:50:39 PM

Right giving the edit a look through, I think there's some changes that can be altered.

Current rewrite

  • "Smith and Jones": The Plasmavore taking the identity "Florence Finnegan" is a sadistic fugitive wanted for the murder of the "Child Princess" of a distant world—a crime she took immense pleasure in. When the Judoon isolate the hospital she's hiding in, Florence kills a doctor by forcibly drinking all his blood, to assimilate his DNA and blend in with the humans. To escape her predicament, Florence sets up MRI equipment to blast out a wave that will kill everyone within the hospital and half of all vertebrate life on Earth, remarking that the surviving half is her "little gift". Even when facing her certain demise, Florence goes out of her way to activate the MRI device, attempting to doom billions of lives out of petty spite.

Proposed changes

  • "Smith and Jones": The Plasmavore taking the identity "Florence Finnegan" is a sadistic fugitive wanted for the murder of the "Child Princess" of a distant world—a crime she took immense pleasure in. When the Judoon isolate the hospital she's hiding in, Florence kills a doctor by forcibly drinking his blood, to allow her to assimilate his DNA and blend in with the humans. To escape her predicament, Florence sets up MRI equipment to blast out a wave that will kill everyone within the hospital and half of all life on Earth, remarking that the surviving half is her "little gift". Even when facing her impending execution, Florence activates the MRI device, attempting to doom billions of lives out of petty spite.

Deleted some fluff.

Edited by WetFlannels on Jul 14th 2023 at 1:55:55 PM

What's wrong D-16? Rise up!
Derv0sB2 Since: Apr, 2020
#7693: Jul 14th 2023 at 6:55:49 PM

Slightly tidied grammar and sentence structure of the Nachalnik and John Smith entries on Monster CSI Verse, adding a couple commas and hyphens and fixing one spelling error.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/csimonsterchanges_1.jpg https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/csimonsterchanges_2.jpg

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#7694: Jul 14th 2023 at 11:30:28 PM

Is it okay if I add Star Trek to the index on Live-Action Films since the Borg Queen appeared as the Big Bad of a film first.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#7695: Jul 15th 2023 at 1:03:21 AM

I'm withdrawing my reservation for Extreme Venomverse. Not seeing any keepers there anyhow.

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#7697: Jul 15th 2023 at 2:11:05 AM

Rewrites work.

Bull: That's fine.

TotemGenitor Bye Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Mr-ex777 Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

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