Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.
If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread
.
IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.
What goes through this thread?
- Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
- If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here
) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
- If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
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What does not go through this thread?
- New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread
.
- Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
- Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
- If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
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, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
- Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
- Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
- Spelling and grammar fixes.
- Pothole changes.
- Minor rewordings.
- Spoiler tags.
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- Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
- If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
- Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread
. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.
Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.
As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.
Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!
Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM
I have a request to update a character's write-up: namely for Belos in the fanfic series Witches and Monsters. His write-up starts like this:
As someone who updated the page for The Gods Awaken pointed out, Adaptational Villainy doesn't apply to Belos because of how much of a 'fuckwad' he is in canon (their choice in words, not mine. Not that I'm disagreeing.) So, do you think we should alter the opening line to remove the mention of Belos apparently being more evil than in canon?
Prepare for a bitter harvest...![]()
True for Odalia. Though, considering the fact that the author's rewriting their take on Godzilla vs. Kong, should we preface that in Odalia and Alador's writeup?
Also, here's an idea for the new opener for Belos:
- Emperor Belos is a power-hungry Control Freak who rules the Boiling Isles.
Edited by MemeMaster245 on Apr 23rd 2023 at 7:27:22 PM
Prepare for a bitter harvest...Change the pothole from The Emperor to The Owl House - Emperor Belos
- "Elf Reincarnation Arc": Zagred, the Word Devil, long ago swayed the humans of the Clover Kingdom into siphoning the elves' magic reserves, before exterminating the entire race himself in a way that would hold the prince accountable and trying to possess their leader Licht to destroy the human world, forcing Licht to turn himself into a Demon. Defeated, Zagred reincarnated the elves with a dark spell, letting one elf named Patry lead the terrorist Eye of the Midnight Sun to do as much damage as possible and revive the others to destroy humanity. Revealing himself, Zagred gloats about all he has done to the world before trying to manifest fully, then tortures Patry, breaking him spiritually to transform him into a mindless dark elf and gleefully has him attempt to wipe out the heroes. After stealing Patry's Four-Leaf Clover Grimoire and transforming it into a Five-Leaf Clover Grimoire to obtain more power, Zagred proceeds to open a doorway to pure darkness, seeking to consume the human and elven races alike.
- Kingdom Hearts 2:Chaos Storm (link
): Solego the Chaos God is even worse than in canon. In the past, Solego destroyed countless civilisations and made lost souls his followers. Sealed away in a crystal, Solego's followers seek to release him, ready to destroy anybody who gets in their way. After being freed, Solego travels to the Destiny Islands and turns all its inhabitants to stone. Solego plans to destroy all multiversal hot spots and trigger the destruction of all existence.
- Luz Clawthorne's "Stranger Danger": The Coachman, a particular nasty Fae, has for centuries tricked an untold number of children into coming to Pleasure Island in order to have them transformed into donkeys against their wills and sell them into forced labor. After having done this many times before, the Coachman moves his operations to the Boiling Isles, intending to enslave and torture the witchlings that he lures to his amusement park trap. Admitting to being a Child Hater motivated by sheer spite, the Coachman attempts to murder Luz and Amity when they discover his scheme and try to stop him.
- Honor Among Thieves:
- Szass Tam, master of Thay, is an evil Lich who was no longer content to be one of the ruling Zulkirs. Luring in the population of the capital city, Szass Tam cast the Beckoning Death to consume the souls of the people and turn them into undead abominations he used to conquer the entire land. Sending his agents through the land to expand his empire, Szass Tam is the mastermind behind the scheme to unleash the Beckoning Death upon Neverwinter and expand his domain.
- Sofina, an undead Red Wizard and servant of Szass Tam, assisted in the Beckoning Death and blocked numerous civilians from fleeing their horrific demise. Infiltrating Neverwinter and placing its Lord Neverember into a coma to secure the rise of Forge Fitzwilliam, Sofina assists in all Forge's depravities and betrayals. Summoning the Beckoning Death, Sofina plots to unleash it on the civilians of Neverwinter only to furiously rain magical destruction upon the city when the attempt fails.
- Forge Fitzwilliam is a seemingly charming con artist, who betrays his old friends Edgin and Holga while "adopting" Edgin's daughter Kyra out of sheer delight in having someone he can shape and mold to look up to him while poisoning her against her father. Forge runs Neverwinter as a despot, with killer Gladiator Games and efforts to wipe out the forest druids. Plotting to flee with his treasure, Forge lures the entire city to the latest games to die in the Beckoning Death and threatens to murder Kira should Edgin try to stop him.
- Ob Nixilis is a Planeswalker who was a cruel, despotic tyrant bent on conquering his home plane. Defeated by his enemies, Ob Nixilis summoned demons that fulfilled his heart's desire to end all life on his plane. The experience ignited his spark and he began scouring the life from every plane he wandered to. After being cursed into a demon, Ob Nixilis lost his spark on Zendikar trying to remove it. Ob Nixilis tried to devour Zendikar's soul to reignite his spark and succeeded by absorbing the Eldrazi titan Ulamog's prison. As a final act of spite, Ob Nixilis awakened the titan Kozilek to ensure Zendikar's doom. He would later travel to New Capenna to dominate the plane and take control of its Halo supply. Assembling his own crime family, Ob Nixilis would engineer the massacre of the other families and attempt to absorb the survivors to consolidate his power and satisfy his love of conquest.
- Gix was the first ever compleated when he sacrificed his humanity and swore allegiance to Yawgmoth and became the Praetor of Phyrexia. First introduced as a diseased and murderous exile, Gix became Yawgmoth's right hand when he was cured and aided his master in destroying the Thran empire. The Praetor would be cast out of Dominaria with his master and returned millennia later to corrupt the artificer Mishra and escalate the brutal war with his brother Urza. His manipulations to weaken Dominaria directly led to an apocalyptic blast that would cause an early Ice Age and destroy most of the plane's civilizations. When a side effect prevented Phyrexia from invading, Gix was tortured until he could prove himself by horrifically mentally breaking humanoids into his sleeper agents that he used to spread chaos and war. Ultimately killed by Urza, Gix was the harbinger of all the horrors Phyrexia would unleash on the Multiverse.
- Elesh Norn is the White Praetor and assumed control over New Phyrexia when she dominated her fellow Praetors and titled herself the Mother of Machines. Outwardly expressing beliefs of peace and unity through compleation, Norn truthfully is a theocratic dictator who seeks to shape Phyrexia to her own personal whims while corrupting the Multiverse to solely worship her. Norn would torture and execute her peers for defying her while tampering with Phyrexia's glistening oil to ensure anyone corrupted by it would follow only her commands. First overseeing the conquest and compleation of the plane of Mirrodin, Norn masterminded the creation of a corrupted World Tree called Realmbreaker that allowed her to launch apocalyptic invasions against countless planes, seeking to bend them to her thrall or destroy them. Megalomaniacal and selfish to the core, Elesh Norn proved to be a worthy successor to Yawgmoth's monstrous legacy.
- Joffrey Baratheon is a spoiled sadist who sees power as nothing but a means to hurt people. Introduced tormenting a fellow child while trying to force him to engage in a lethal sword fight, Joffrey responds to Arya Stark humiliating him by getting her sister Sansa's beloved direwolf killed. Upon ascending to the throne in the wake of his father's death, Joffrey immediately has multiple allies of the Stark family murdered and lies to Sansa that he will spare her father Ned, only to behead him and force Sansa to look upon his spiked skull. Joffrey further torments Sansa by regularly having his men brutally beat and strip her in public, all while Joffrey intends to rape her. Idling his time away by maiming and torturing people, Joffrey's mismanagement of time and resources leads to King's Landing's citizens starving; Joffrey's response to their pleas for food is to fire upon them with a crossbow, encourage them to eat their own dead, and order an entire crowd be cut down when one citizen embarrasses him. During the Battle of Blackwater, Joffrey cruelly torments his opponents by flinging their captured allies at them via trebuchets, having tortured them beforehand by nailing antlers to their heads in a mockery of their sigil.
- Ser Gregor Clegane, "the Mountain that Rides", has been a brute and bully since childhood, when he horribly burned and scarred his little brother Sandor's face for touching one of Gregor's toys. As an adult, Gregor regularly participates in jousting tournaments where he goes out of his way to murder his opponents, and he is feared for his hand in the rape and murder of Elia of Dorne as well as her children. When dispatched by House Lannister on a sacking campaign, Gregor brutally slaughters his way across the land, killing men, women, and children alike before stringing their bodies up. Once he has amassed a large quantity of slaves, Gregor has the Tickler subject them to horrid tortures and mutilations to extract information on other potential targets for Gregor's sadistic warpath.
- Ramsay Snow is Roose Bolton's bastard son, and lives up to his house's name in heinous cruelty. A rapist and killer of women who enjoys hunting them through the forest, Ramsay forcibly married Lady Hornwood before locking her in a room to starve her to death; the woman ate her own fingers in an attempt to survive, a fact that Ramsay laughs about. Disguising his minion Reek as himself and getting Reek killed to fake his own death, Ramsay becomes an advisor to Theon at Winterfell and repeatedly tries to get Theon to flay prisoners alive for fun. Ramsay personally flays and kills two young boys to boost Theon's reputation, and though playing along as an ally to Theon, Ramsay reveals his true colors when he amasses an army from the Dreadfort; massacres Theon's enemies; then turns on Theon himself by slaughtering his people at Winterfell and boasting his intentions to rape Theon's own bedmate.
- A Clash of Kings #11: Craster is a vile man who marries and rapes his daughters from a young age, while keeping them isolated from the world beyond Craster's Keep. Craster then eventually marries and rapes his granddaughters, and so on. If his offspring bear any sons, Craster has them sacrificed to the Others.
- Warlord Kodos the Lion was the former bloodthirsty and bigoted warlord for the Kingdom of Acorn. Hating the attention Nate Morgan received, Kodos, alongside Ixis Naugus, framed Nate for getting some of his own men killed, resulting in a war between Mobians and Overlanders. Kodos would further incite this by killing two negotiators for both sides by snapping their necks and sending letters to both sides implicating them, which resulted in the Great War and thousands of deaths. Kodos later took the Overlander defector Julian Kintobor—later known as Dr. Robotnik—and showed him the technology and the Zone of Silence which he planned to use to overthrow the king and take over the world, making him responsible for Robotnik's rise to power. After being banished by Robotnik, Kodos joined Naugus for protection and tried to kill Sonic many times and forced Uma to steal the Sword of Acorns, which Kodos planned to use to destroy Sonic and Robotnik.
- Ixis Naugus was originally Agunus, Nusgau, and Suguna, the last survivors of the Order of Ixis who sought to gain control over the element of fire. They fell into the sun which resulted in a new personality and body. Naugus later became the royal wizard for the Kingdom of Acorn who, disliking Nate Morgan, recruited Kodos to frame him by mind controlling Overlanders into attacking their troops and blaming Nate for the incident. He also did this to cause the Great War between Mobians and Overlanders and retreated to the Zone of Silence until the war ended. Naugus crafted this realm to have harsh conditions that would drive anyone to madness unless they swore loyalty to him. This included the banished King Acorn who still suffers from the trauma of being forced to serve Naugus. Naugus also attempted to cause a civil war between Mobians and Robians by manipulating the king, and manipulated the public into crowning him King, planning on brainwashing the entire city to restore the Order of Ixis; this is one of the primary reasons the world was destroyed.
- Buddy Daddies: Ryo Ogino is a sociopathic Professional Killer obsessed with recording the final words of his targets. Introduced massacring a kingpin and his bodyguards, Ogino is responsible for several tragedies in the series, having indirectly killed Kazuki Kurusu's pregnant wife in an explosion, and torturing the girlfriend of Rei Suwa's mentor to death. When Shigeki Suwa assigns him with eliminating Kazuki and the young Miri Unakasa, Ogino murders Miri's birth mother while gloating to Kazuki that he would write down the last words of him and his adopted daughter before killing them both.
- Engage Kiss: Asmodeus is an ancient demonic being responsible for several of the events of the series. Desiring to create a bridge to unleash its demonic brethren on the Earth in a faux bid for "harmony", Asmodeus strikes deals with any human it encounters, transforming them into the "Demonically Possessed", or D Hazards. After healing Miles Morgan's ill daughter in return for his undying loyalty, Asmodeus kills and replaces the wife of Isamu Ogata to conceive a Half-Human Hybrid named Kanna. When Ayano Yuugiri and Sharon Holygrail attempt to thwart its plan, Asmodeus tries strangling Ayano to death and tries to break Shu's mind by taking on a crude replica of his mother.
- Shadow of the Batgirl: David Cain is the "assassin kingpin" out to control every assassin in the world, and the brutal father of Cassandra Cain. Training Cassandra to only understand body language rather than teaching her to read or talk, Cain used her to commit countless murders, severely traumatizing her until she eventually runs away. Cain, in search of his lost weapon, orchestrates a massive crime wave in Gotham, only to later submit his own life to Cassandra when she inevitably defeats him so she can take over his organization, viewing her only as the perfect creation to carry on his legacy of bloodshed.
- The Oracle Code: Dr. Neil Lachlan, a physical therapist at the Arkham Center for Independence, is one of the co-masterminds behind the facility's disappearances. Alongside Dr. Maxwell, Lachlan kidnaps young children to subject to genetic experiments, hoping to "fix" their disabilities while remaining apathetic to the numerous deaths his unethical methods cause. Dismissing his subjects as "broken" casualties no one will remember, Lachlan contrasts his partner's genuinely well-intentioned goals with an egotistical desire to change the world, cruelly attempting to eliminate his remaining subjects when discovered and even moving to kill Maxwell when he protests the barbaric act.
- Batman and Superman: Battle of the Super Sons: Starro is an alien parasite that ended up trapped in space, where it grew to a massive size and began desiring domination over the universe. Taking control of nearly all superheroes on Earth, Starro sent its offspring to take over the minds of every human they can find, as it planned to drain the life out of the entire planet and then move to repeat the process on other worlds. Furious at Jon Kent and Damian Wayne for attacking it, Starro ordered the possessed heroes to kill them.
- Legion of Super Heroes (2006):
- "Sundown" two-parter: The Controller, defying the other Controllers' wishes for peace with the rest of the universe, breaks out one of their ancient weapons, the "Sun-Eater". The Controller intends to use the Sun-Eater to go on a rampage, desolating first an unpopulated solar system to illustrate what he plans to do to Earth's solar system and all the trillions of lives in it. The Controller seeks to destroy the United Planets solely to bask in the silent "perfection" of the aftermath, and it takes Ferro-Lad sacrificing himself to stop the Sun-Eater.
- Season 2:
- Imperiex is a warlord from the 41st century who seeks nothing less than total domination over the galaxy through sheer terror and pain. A former slave who fought his way to become a gladiator, Imperiex overthrew his oppressors and immediately turned his attentions on the rest of the galaxy, seeking to crush 44 trillion lives under his boot of dictatorship. Imperiex was thwarted by the Legion from his initial conquest, but stole one of their time travel devices and went into the past where he erased the current timeline and all life in it with Antimatter. Becoming a regular thorn in the Legion's side in the 31st century, Imperiex maims Lightning Lad while trying to kill his siblings; attempts to firebomb Cham's homeworld out of spite; and threatens to massacre the only survivors of Superman's home, Kandor. Unleashing Brainiac 1.0 onto the galaxy, Imperiex hopes to use him to bring destruction and suffering to all that live, serving as a contrast to Brainiac's desire for "order" with his own desire for pure chaos.
- "Message in a Bottle" & "Dark Victory" two-part finale: Brainiac 1.0 was a menace from the past who quickly became one of the most dangerous foes the Legion has ever faced. Brainiac 1.0 was introduced in a flashback, where he shrinks and steals the city of Kandor from Krypton. Within Kandor was a power source that was stabilizing Krypton, but with this power source gone Krypton was soon destroyed. Brainiac 1.0 himself was destroyed long ago, but his programming resided within Brainiac 5, cut off from the other systems, waiting for a chance to be released. This chance came when Brainiac 5 accessed Brainiac 1.0's programming to gain knowledge to defeat Imperiex. Though Brainiac 1.0's knowledge was useful in defeating Imperiex, every time he used it Brainiac 1.0 was able to gain more control. Brainiac 1.0 slowly corrupted Brainiac 5, until eventually he took control of Brainiac 5's body. Then Brainiac quickly betrays Imperiex—who had helped Brainiac 1.0 take over Brainiac 5's body—killing him because he was no longer useful to him. Brainiac then proceeds with his plan to bring the entire universe under his control, by transforming all living beings in the universe into streams of data. After digitizing some planets, Brainiac returns to his home planet Colu and reprograms all the inhabitants there to serve as his army and aid in his quest to digitize the universe.
- Krypton: Brainiac, known as The Collector of Worlds, is a cyborg who wiped out his entire race and travels through the galaxy to abduct cities, shrinking them for his collection and often causing the destruction of their planets. While Brainiac publicly claims to bring immortality for the people he takes, in actuality they are put into a paralyzed stasis while remaining conscious forever. Having already inflicted this fate on countless cities and setting sights on Kandor from planet Krypton, Brainiac sends a sentry that possesses and kills an innocent woman before infecting the dictator of Kandor, whom Brainiac remotely controls. After defeating a coup, Brainiac brainwashes the rebels into his loyal guards and forces chief magistrate Daron-Vex to execute his co-conspirators, including Daron's own daughter, Nyssa. To replenish his forces, Brainiac regularly feeds on the birth facility, draining embryos as batteries. Brainiac then slaughters any opposition with his Psychic Powers and turns a little girl into a living bomb he sends upon her friend, Seg-El. Upon being defeated and cast away into the Phantom Zone, Brainiac drags Seg with him and possesses him to return back to Krypton, kidnapping Seg's son and taking him to Earth so he can rule over the planet as a god.
- Nubia: Real One: Wayland Carson is a racist student at Nubia's school who breaks the arm of the girl who rejected him. Beaten by Nubia after he forcibly kisses her friend Quisha, Wayland and his friends manipulate the police into attacking protesters at Quisha's Black Lives Matter protest, resulting in two people being severely injured. Wayland brings a gun to school to kill Quisha for rejecting him, trying to kill Nubia as well after she gets in his way.
- Enclave Reborn (Hearts of Iron IV Game Mod using Old World Blues & Fallout): Franklin Anderson is the leader of the Purist Faction of the Enclave remnants in Nevada, fanatical genetic purists fully adhering to the ideology of the Richardson administration. If allowed to take power by Sergeant Arch Dornan, Anderson would purge the Enclave's reformist faction. Establishing a foothold in Nevada, Anderson would launch massive purges of the Nevada Wasteland's population on the basis that mutations were a "crime against humanity". When war is declared against the NCR, Anderson would deploy the Forced Evolutionary Virus against the NCR and use the war as a pretext to seize dictatorial powers. Upon the defeat of the NCR, Anderson would establish a totalitarian Police State where both suspected mutants and political opponents are enslaved, killed, or experimented on. Seeking to spread the Enclave across the world, Anderson would launch wars on the wastelands of Canada and Mexico, with the ultimate goal of destroying what remained of China out of spite over America's destruction in the Great War.
- The Naboo Chronicles (link
; For the Love of the Queen
; To Everything There is a Season
):
- Palpatine, also known as Darth Sidious, is a manipulative Dark Lord who plans to rule the galaxy. He orchestrates the invasion of his own homeworld Naboo, using the crisis to manipulate his way into the Office of Supreme Chancellor. Plotting to turn Anakin to the Dark Side, Palpatine manipulates both Trade Federation soldiers and Naboo's former King Veruna in an attempt to assassinate Padmé. Capturing and corrupting Count Sar Dooku into his servant, Palpatine manipulates him into killing his friend Sifo Dyas, whom Palpatine manipulated into ordering the clone army. Palpatine orders raids across the galaxy in order to acquire the kelvacyte necessary for a planet-destroying superlaser. Palpatine captures and corrupts Force-sensitive teen Dahlia into serving him, sending her to infiltrate the Jedi Temple and steal the Staff of Marka Ragnos. Learning that Naboo's moons possess huge amounts of kelvacyte, Palpatine sends Valkin to acquire it by any means necessary. Palpatine organises the near-death of a Kallesh revolutionary in order to make him general in his war. Ready to kick the war off, Palpatine sends Dahlia to infiltrate the army of Naboo and lures anti-war senators into a trap on Geonosis.
- Valkin Ord is one of Palpatine's highest ranking and most ambitious servants. Head of the Mandalorian arms-dealing family whose father befriended Dooku, Valkin assists Palpatine in turning Dooku to the Dark Side. Valkin is put in charge of building armies for the Clone Wars, including development of a superlaser. He eventually allies with Dooku to betray Palpatine, planning to betray Dooku as well and conquer the galaxy on his own. Uniting Mandalorian clans under his command, Valkin leads raids on kelvacyte-rich sites, killing countless workers. Sent by Palpatine to acquire Naboo's kelvacyte, Valkin uses his superlaser-equipped flagship Avenger to destroy Eqab 9 and threatens to do the same to Naboo. Valkin captures Padmé, planning to make her his bride and turn Anakin to the Dark Side to serve him. Beaten by Anakin, Valkin orders the Avenger to destroy Naboo.
- One Helluva Broken Day (Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss & SCP Foundation): SCP-106, better known as the Old Man, remains just as vile as his canon counterpart. Chucking several foundation agents into his Pocket Dimension, SCP-106 abducts Cletus, Collin, and Keenie as SCP-001 arrives. Forcing the Cherubs to starve, thirst, and go insane as they trudge through his dimension, 106 appears to jam his thumbs into Cletus' eye sockets, telling his victims to keep crying so that the forces of heaven come for them and "the real fun can start".
- Cruiser (2016): The titular "Cruiser" is a religious fanatic who believes that God Is Evil and gleefully embraces his murderous actions as "God's will". The Cruiser arrives in a small Georgia town and immediately murders a cop to steal his uniform and prowl the streets for further victims. After kidnapping an innocent woman named Tara, the Cruiser forces her to watch as he shoots a man in the head; butchers two teenagers; terrorizes and humiliates a group of kids; and uses a hatchet and pistol to slaughter an entire convenience store of people. The Cruiser wipes out the police squad sent to stop him, and then murders Tara and vanishes into the night to continue his spree across the country.
- The Devil Conspiracy (2022-2023):
- Lucifer is a sadistic Fallen Angel out to turn mankind against itself to completely end the world. Bound by his brother Michael at the dawn of time, Lucifer later works with a cult to find a suitable host. Killing countless women and children by failed possessions, Lucifer finally manages to take a woman named Lauren who is pregnant with the next Messiah. Torturing Michael for spite, Lucifer has his own cult massacred and expresses his desire to bring hell to earth and annihilate mankind while in the body of the clone of Jesus for nothing greater than, in his own words, his "fuck you to daddy".
- Liz, a subordinate of Lucifer, is the blasphemous leader of a demonic cult. Decapitating a guard and using the head to acquire the Shroud of Turin, Liz fatally wounds Father Marconi before kidnapping Laura Milton. Liz oversees the entrapment of several women, impregnating them with the DNA of Christ to create a vessel for Lucifer to possess. Upon the birth of the child, Liz commemorates the occasion by "baptizing" the child through the ordered mass slaughter of the cult members.
- Battle for the Heartfire: Thorgrim is the leader of a Viking clan that plunders villages and enslaves people. Upon finding Mehgan stranded on their land, they try to enslave her, but Thorgrim decides to ally with her when he discovers her fire powers. Some time later, Thorgrim and his clan go to Brittania to help Mehgan seize the throne from her brother Edric, and Thorgrim leads his men to attack and slaughter many fishermen on arrival. At night, Thorgrim and his men sneak into Edric's camp, where they murder several soldiers and help Mehgan steal Drago's Heartfire. Once she becomes Queen, Mehgan chooses to have Edric exiled rather than killed like Thorgrim advised, but Thorgrim secretly sends some men to capture and enslave him anyway. Afterwards, Thorgrim tries to have Mehgan murdered in her sleep and steals the Heartfire to have all the power for himself. Now free to do as he pleases, Thorgrim sends his men to raid the surrounding villages, burning the houses, slaughtering the men and capturing the women. When Edric and Mehgan come to challenge him, Thorgrim has Mehgan mortally wounded by arrows before hitting Edric In the Back with an axe.
- Extraordinary Rendition (2007): Interrogator Maro is a vicious professional torturer who cares little for anything but confessions. Taking anyone who falls into his grasp, Maro subjects them to excruciating psychological and physical torture for as long as they reside in his prison, beginning with sleep deprivation. Stealing all hope via psychological torment, Maro then moves on to physical pain with the scars in hero Zaafir lasting long after he escapes the prison.
- Forever Evil (1987):
- Parker Nash is a seemingly well-meaning real estate agent who is in fact a cultist worshipper of the ancient Yog-Kothag. Nash murdered an entire family in Yog-Kothag's name over a century ago, gaining immortality from his master in the process, and spends the next decades perpetrating a variety of other massacres, using a zombified victim as his triggerman. Having arranged the locations of his many brutal slaughters to align with the shape of a pentagram, Nash plans to perform a ritual that will summon Yog-Kothag to Earth, dooming humankind to torment and destruction in exchange for Nash receiving ultimate power alongside his god. Though Marc and Reggie thwart this doomsday plan after Nash mauls their friend Leo to death, Nash responds by turning Marc into his newest zombie slave and tries to force him to kill Reggie, so as to give her the most painful death imaginable.
- Yog-Kothag himself is the sapient, malicious evil god that Parker Nash worships, a god "so evil the other gods ganged up on him" and sealed him in a quasar. Able to manifest in limited forms, Yog-Kothag has Nash commit massacre after massacre over the years as human sacrifices, enough to feed Yog-Kothag and bring him to Earth so it can destroy humanity. Yog-Kothag is personally evil and sadistic to extremes most other eldritch horrors aren't, personally torturing a magician to death, corrupting the unborn fetus of a pregnant woman Nash murdered on its behalf, and ultimately dragging Nash screaming into eternal torture for having failed him.
- Shanghai Triad (1995): Boss Tang, leader of the Triads that Shuisheng joins, soon reveals the depths of his depravity after bloody gang conflicts. Retreating to an island, Tang shows little care for the victims of his Triads. Upon discovering his right-hand man Song is plotting against him with his mistress Jinbao, Tang has multiple innocents on the island killed, massacres Song's men, and buries him alive before promising that Jinbao's own execution is coming soon and taking a young girl from the island to raise her to be the new Jinbao.
- The Torturer (2005): Hector Moscale tortures numerous women to death to create snuff films to make himself money, with his cruel methods including dripping hot oil, electrocution, and cauterization by blowtorch. Having kept a friend of Ginette Cazoni locked up in a cramped wooden compartment outside his house, and tortured her for days, Hector's abuse is shown to be harsh enough that Ginette arrives too late to save her friend. After murdering his family servant, Cathlene, when she discovers what he does, Hector captures Ginette and locks her in a room slowly filling with water to try and drown her. When his stepson, Alex, refuses to take part in his crimes, Hector tries to kill him. To retaliate against his wife stabbing him to rescue Alex and Ginette, Hector stabs and kills her as well before he dies.
- The Circus of Hungry Clowns, by Caesar Ruell: Crooks, leader of the circus, is a carnivorous monster who gleefully preys on the flesh of children. Leading the circus with powerful illusions, Crooks regularly murders kids as part of the show and kidnaps others for later consumption. Ringmasters are kept in life by their loved ones held captive and threatened with death should they not help the clowns prey on children.
- Goblin Slayer: On his quest to exterminate every goblin, the Goblin Slayer himself has encountered beings at least as vile, if not more so, than the goblins themselves:
- Vol. 3: The Dark Elf is a member of the Evil Sect who has women butchered and vivisected as sacrifices while leading goblins in the sewers of Water Town to cause as much havoc as he can. Having manipulated numerous attacks, the Dark Elf helps to inspire previous assaults by the goblins, including the Goblin Lord's attempted razing of Goblin Slayer's town. Later resurfacing during the "Harvest Festival" arc, the Dark Elf intends to use his goblins to massacre and violate all in their path while he summons Hecatoncheir, the hundred-armed giant, to obliterate the rest, and goes on a rampage to throw the world into chaos and devastation, intending on summoning many more monsters to kill as many people as possible.
- Vol. 9: The Ice Witch is a hedonistic vampire who enjoys preying on young women. Gaining the loyalty of a group of carnivorous sasquatches, she unleashes them upon the local villages to slaughter the innocent Hare Folk, whole blocking out the sun to allow no respite. With numerous innocents massacred, the Ice Witch plans to have villages slaughtered to give herself cover in an innocent town and kill freely for a century.
- Vol. 11: The Guard Captain of the Desert Kingdom is an impulsive, brutal man who murders the rulers so that his supposed superior, the Prime Minister, can be the puppet master of the more intransigent Desert Princess. Deciding to raise an army of goblins to secure the coup, the Captain funnels innocent women to a goblin breeding camp to be used as breeding slaves before unleashing them on the city. When exposed, he reveals he plans to awaken a dragon to get it to do the attacking for him.
- Reluctant Immortals, by Gwendolyn Kiste:
- The ruthless and charming Count Dracula is a predator who takes the life and dignity of others to cover the fathomless emptiness within him. Preying on RM Renfield to turn him into an abused slave, Dracula made his way to England with a series of horrible murders and the corruption of Lucy Westerna. With countless dead women behind him, Dracula was finally destroyed while Lucy was damned to unlife. Upon his return, Dracula resumes preying upon all he can find while trying to force Lucy to embrace the most monstrous side of herself and become a killer just like him.
- Edward Fairfax Rochester was an unscrupulous landlord who abused his tenants and workers, turning the penniless out to die and using their anguish to become immortal. Abusing his wife Bertha "Bee" Mason by forcing her to immortality and locking her in his attic, he later also tried to enslave the more famous Jane Eyre. Keeping numerous women around to serve his whims in his own cult, Rochester tries to hunt down Bee to ensure she can never escape him again. Helping to unleash Dracula, Rochester ensures the vampire feeds from and kills numerous people.
- "Pandora" & "Linchpin": Sophia Turner is a KGB sleeper agent implanted in the CIA who desires to bring the United States of America to ruin due to her side, the Soviet Union, not winning the Cold War. To this end, Sophia joins a group of like-minded individuals and initiates the catastrophic Pandora event by killing Nelson Blakely and Tracy McGrath while framing CIA agent Thomas Gage for her murders. Sophia then kills Gage and frames Martin Danberg for the crime before attempting to kill Richard Castle and Kate Beckett, while also having her accomplice assassinate the young Mia Ganghong so her father the Chinese finance minister won't pay off America's debt. This results in America's financial ruin and being unable to protect their ally countries, allowing their enemies to invade them and potentially kick-start World War III.
- "PhDead": Dr. Barbara Lillstrom is a professor at Hudson University hired by the US Navy to recreate the 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment. Lillstrom would trick many college students into becoming test subjects for her experiments, imprisoning them for prolonged periods of time as she subjects them to mental and psychological torture. When two of her subjects, Amy and Peter Garber, escape her prison, Amy has a mental breakdown and murders Peter as a result of Lillstrom's actions, while attempting to subject Richard Castle and his daughter, Alexis, to the same torture to hide her own role in Peter's death. Arrested by Kate Beckett, Lillstrom reveals Peter's sexual relationship with Dean Feller to save herself when Beckett threatens to reveal Lillstrom's inhumane experiment if she doesn't provide any information.
- Narcos Seasons 1 & 2: Juan Diego Díaz, better known as "La Quica" ("the Fat Girl"), is a sadistic, cowardly sicario under the employ of Pablo Escobar, head of the Medellín Cartel. First introduced gunning down the partner of narrator Steve Murphy, Quica commits several atrocities for his boss ranging from carrying out hits, torture, the recruitment of Child Soldiers, and helping Escobar trick a young Colombian into blowing up both himself and the over 100 passengers on his plane. After corrupting his friend Limon into becoming one of Escobar's hitmen, Quica murders the entire staff of a local brothel as retaliation for almost being arrested. Abandoning his boss when his power base is crumbling, Quica attempts to flee with some of his money before ultimately selling out Pablo's entire organization to the Search Bloc.
- Knights of the Eternal Throne Expansion Pack: Jarak was obsessed with sapient brain research. Earning the disgust of his peers, he developed a brainwashing method with a 90% mortality rate, which he sold to various criminal elements. Hired by Emperor Valkorion, Jarak was tasked with perfecting his method as a means to control Valkorion's daughter Vaylin. To that end, he was provided with unlimited resources, which he ruthlessly sacrificed in order to break Vaylin, forcing her to witness his cruel methods. Punishing her for even the slightest resistance, Jarak eventually managed to break her, turning Vaylin from a frightened, innocent child into a deranged murderer, implanted with a Trigger Phrase for her to be used as a tool, describing it as glorious. Years later, Vaylin tasks him to undo her condition, which he once again does in the most agonizing way, before trying to slip away. After his death, it's revealed that he had Lieutenant Felix Iresso captured, torturing and experimenting on him for five years to access the Sith Holocron within Felix's head. Cowardly, cruel, and apathetic to the suffering he caused, the only thing Jarak was interested in was his research.
- Sovereignty:
- President Andrew Jackson is portrayed as a eugenicist who seeks nothing short of the total extinction of the Tribal Nations. Despite receiving aid from Major Ridge in the War of 1812, Jackson immediately works to force the Cherokee off of their land once he's in power, giving Governor Forsyth political backing to force them off and refusing to enforce the Supreme Court's ruling when his actions are deemed unconstitutional. The result is the Trail Of Tears and the deaths of tens of thousands of Native Americans, with thousands more being left homeless and vulnerable to rapes and assaults across the Cherokee Nation. Firmly believing that the Cherokee Nation is doomed to extinction and that the country would soon lose its "Indian flavor", Jackson's policies are responsible for over 150 years of rapes and murders of Cherokee women, with Native American women facing the highest rate of sexual assault of any demographic thanks to him.
- Governor (John) Forsyth is the governor of Georgia and Jackson's partner in forcing the Cherokee off of their land. To force them off, Forsyth orders his militia to rape any Native women who refuse his orders to leave, then unconstitutionally imprisons Samuel Worcester to prevent the Cherokee from publishing their newspaper. Despite the Supreme Court ruling his actions unconstitutional, Forsyth continues ordering the rape of Native women, eventually driving them off of their land and into the Trail of Tears.
- Year of the Snake DLC: Master Chu is the leader of a doomsday cult who supposedly predicted the world's end on the Chinese New Year. Telling his followers that those who do what he says will go to Heaven alongside him while simultaneously putting little value in them, Master Chu has his cultists plant bombs in largely populated areas throughout Hong Kong in order to initiate the apocalypse, from attempting to destroy crowded marketplaces and parades, to blowing up a bus and killing everybody onboard. Forcing a bomb maker to work for him as his abused slave, Master Chu even has his own men blow themselves up to escape arrest and interrogation.
- Season One: Crawford Oberson was a ruthless tyrant with a firm belief in the survival of the fittest. From the sick to the elderly and children, Oberson exiled anyone he believed to be a burden, coerced pregnant women into abortion, and killed dozens of dissidents to form a barrier with their reanimated corpses. Even long after his death, Oberson's cruelty left a mark on Savannah with tales spread as a "ghost story come true".
- Etra chan saw it!'s "My best friend suddenly passed away and his wife asked me to marry her
": This version of Hiiragi is seen as both a "perfect" guy and Kuroki's best friend, but in reality this is just a mask to hide his true self. A notorious bully in middle school, Hiiragi either ordered or personally participated in bullying so severe that several students dropped out and one received a burn so severe it damaged his eye; Hiiragy acted like an angel in front of the teachers to avoid any punishment, but became feared by the rest of the students. Becoming a better actor in high school, Hiiragi still started dating Yuzuriha solely to get a reaction out of Kuroki, and became upset when the boy he was pretending to be friends with acted as if it didn't bother him. Learning that Yuzuriha inherited a large sum of money from her parents, Hiiragi proposed to her to take her money. When she saw through this and refused, Hiiragi raped her and force her to marry him, abusing and treating her like a slave for five years before his death. A horrible person who was not mourned by those who knew his true self, to the point they saw his death as karma, his actions continue to haunt his "best friend" and widow months after his death.
- Pen Pal: The mysterious stalker is a pedophile who happens to receive a letter from the narrator as a kindergartner as part of a school project, spending a decade obsessively following him; murdering anyone the narrator gets close to, even his cat; tricking the narrator's elderly neighbour into letting him into her house, and butchering her for being kind to narrator; and running over and stealing the phone from a girl narrator had a crush on, pretending to be her while texting him, as she dies in the hospital. The stalker kidnaps the narrator's best friend Josh, holding him captive for two years, dolling him up to resemble the narrator, and other things that are not elaborated upon, before tricking Josh's father into burying himself and Josh alive. Responsible for all the pain and horror in the story, the stalker's obsession scars the narrator and those around him beyond measure.
- Pax Americana (link
) & Pax Britannica Nova (link
): The Großdeutsches Weltreich is an alternate Germany from another timeline where the Axis powers won WW2. Secretly working with his own timeline's Japan to invade the original timeline, Alternate!Germany constantly prods the original Germany to be more aggressive and evil, culminating in him massacring the Polish and scarring Poland almost for life. After the original Germany reluctantly restarts their relationship after realizing Alternate!Japan is influencing his counterpart, Alternate!Germany convinces him to develop a deeper relationship by opening a portal, saying that it's both the moral and pragmatic solution if he wants to save his Japan. Once this happens, Alternate!Germany banishes the original Germany from his timeline, spitefully telling him he was right not to trust him. Upon taking control, Alternate!Germany declares war on everyone, invading Poland again in an attempt to break him. While cordial and occasionally even comedic in his banter, it does nothing to disguise his fanatic devotion to his twisted Aryan dream.
- Onyx Equinox: Tezcatlipoca is a celestial god intent on wiping out humanity. Seeking yearly sacrifices of great warriors in order for them to become his heralds, when the goddess Mictecacihuatl falls in love with Yaotl, Tezcatlipoca has Yaotl's memories erased and promises to destroy him in Mictecacihuatl ever speaks of their affair. He makes a bet with Quetzalcoatl about the fate of humanity, with the winner getting all of the loser's sacrifices. Tezcatlipoca sends Yaotl to monitor Izel, Quetzalcoatl's chosen champion. Summoned by Izel alongside Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca tries to use every loophole to win the bet and kill Izel. Ultimately winning, Tezcatlipoca expresses joy at watching Quetzalcoatl slowly wither away before turning Yaotl into a normal jaguar and starting the slaughter of humanity. Cruel, petty, and vain, Tezcatlipoca proves himself to be the worst of the setting's Jerkass Gods.
Edited by ACW on Apr 23rd 2023 at 2:31:25 PM
@Meme Master: For Witches and Monsters, I'd clarify that Odalia and Alador only count the original version of it's Godzilla vs. Kong story. While the author is doing a rewrite, they still left the original version up.
Though if Odalia ends up being proposed from the rewrite, there may be a matter of splitting entries, but we'll cross that bridge when it comes to that.
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."There's a green link on the Digimon monster page, Analogman has a link to Cracker when it should probably be The Cracker.
Edited by Voyd211 on Apr 23rd 2023 at 12:34:00 PM
OK, I've been out of here for some time (busy or tired).
Speaking of my posts. I dunno whom to select. Tsukanov is a killer-rapist, but you can feel just a TINY bit of sympathy. Nikifor, on the other hand, is shown as a complete asshole, treating women like tools (and thus not being able to get over his resentment). I've got one possible solution, but I'm not sure whether it is allowed for the site's policies. What can you advise?
P.S. 2 Draxterrus and ACW: Sorry for making you wait.
P.S.S.: Kudos for mentioning Autumn Leaves in discussion. She is a very good troper, who is always willing to help with the site.
Edited by PS83147 on Apr 23rd 2023 at 12:30:26 PM
I was reading through YMMV.Sin City, and there's a point there that needs correction. Junior is a prolific piece of work, but he did not have hundreds of victims. The exact quote is "Oh yeah. She'll scream. They've all screamed, Hartigan! Dozens of them! Maybe a hundred! Eight years' worth and every one of them screamed! If there weren't so many people hereabout, I'd show you how I'm gonna make old Nancy scream". So dozens, not hundreds.
Edited by Morgenthaler on Apr 23rd 2023 at 4:28:47 AM
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"Let's do this:
- "That Yellow Bastard": Ethan Roark, Jr. is the son of a US Senator with the appearance of a handsome young playboy. In reality, he is a sadistic pedophile with a penchant for raping and murdering pre-teen girls and who Loves the Sound of Screaming. These horrible crimes are covered up by his corrupt Senator father—brother of the Cardinal—which means that no one on the police force is willing to take him down until John Hartigan saves his latest victim, Nancy Callahan, and goes through eight long years of prison for it because of the vengeful Senator dad. Near the end, it's revealed that Roark Junior is impotent unless he hears little girls scream in pain and that there were possibly dozens of victims.
If we want the bit about him coming back to rape and kill Nancy for revenge after Hartigan gets out we can throw that in too:
- "That Yellow Bastard": Ethan Roark, Jr. is the son of a crooked Senator with the appearance of a handsome, young playboy. Really a sadistic pedophile, Jr. moonlights as a rapist and killer of pre-teen girls, particularly enjoying their screams as he attacks them. His crimes covered up by Roark, Sr., he is eventually caught by heroic cop John Hartigan as he abducts the young Nancy Callahan, Hartigan crippling and castrating him before he can attack the girl. His father having Hartigan imprisoned for revenge, Jr. kidnaps the adult Nancy and prepares to torture, rape and kill her, boasting to Hartigan of the many—possibly dozens—of victims he took while the latter was incarcerated.
Edited by 43110 on Apr 23rd 2023 at 8:35:16 AM
A few details re. Marvel Comic's Knull were revealed in Venom (Vol. 3) #18 that may increase his heinousness... or decrease it.
The Eventuality reveals that the Kings in Black — aka the Onyx Kings — aren't meant to be dark gods of destruction and corruption but divine/cosmic entities that maintain the Multiverse opposite the Beyonders/Ivory Kings. While the Beyonders do the work from outside the Multiverse — a place literally called "Beyond" — through the pristine white Energy of Concordance (aka the Enigma Force), the Kings in Black do the work from within the Multiverse through the oozing black living abyss.
When the Eventuality informs him that the work of the Kings in Black entails suffering, sacrifice, and getting their hands dirty & hearts broken maintaining the universe from the Big Bang until its consumption by the cosmic void, Eddie protests that this isn't fair or right, that he isn't the right guy for the job and that someone else who is qualified and can handle it should be chosen, and that he doesn't want the work — demanding to know why it has to be him. And in response to each of Eddie's protests, the Eventuality replies that Knull said the same thing when he was chosen to be the King in Black and told what it entailed.
The Eventuality then reveals that the Celestials who encroached into the cosmic void between the Sixth Cosmos and Seventh Cosmos did so to recruit Knull, who "couldn't hack [it]" and "burned his draft card" by attacking them with All-Black and then trying to destroy the very universe(s) he was charged with protecting.
Edited by Arawn999 on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:04:03 PM

I presume that the votes for Brigan
are enough for a cut?
Due to unfortunate events, i will continue to exist until further notice. (also i'm fluid now)