I don't know if I'd exactly call Quill a Decoy Protagonist. The movie never really pretends that it's about him. He gets a major subplot, but from very early on we learn and understand that this film is Rocket's story.
Technically the former, realistically the latter. It really feels like the usual forces that keep MCU entries consistent, sanitized and formulaic just did not have any power over Gunn here.
Honestly, it feels like a proper MOVIE and not part of some larger franchise (save of course the earlier Guardians flicks).
Its an MCU film in the MCU written and directed by James Gunn, which follows up on threads from previous MCU films.
I don't get this dichotomy. It makes no sense.
It feels designed to let people like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and keep up doomsaying about the MCU at the same time.
Edited by Bocaj on May 12th 2023 at 8:44:29 AM
Forever liveblogging the Avengers"I don't get this dichotomy. It makes no sense. "
I think it means that MCU often have this homogenious feel you can get between movies, sure you can get specific things here and there like wheedonism in phase 1 and 2 or some stuff you see the russos but guardians feel more like is place were he dosent have to conect to broad MCU.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"30 years from now, I think the visual effects in this movie are going to hold up a lot better than the visual effects in other MCU movies. Because of the fact that there's a heavier reliance on practical effects, prosthetics, and physical sets than on CGI. Like, they used a record 23,000 prosthetics across more than 1,000 actors.
That's probably a big reason why the High Evolutionary's mutilated face
◊ will be something that gives me nightmares for years. (And this behind the scenes photo
◊ shows us how these effects were accomplished.)
Edited by dmcreif on May 13th 2023 at 10:02:47 AM
Okey Dokey!This might just be me but the High Evolutionary's face looked really cheep to me rather then scary or gross and I have no idea why. I'm sure a lot of work went into it and I congratulate them for it, but it just didn't work for me. That said that could just be me, as everyone else I know is impressed by it, and maybe they will work better when I see it at home.
Edited by Bullman on May 13th 2023 at 11:30:40 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadId say this movie still is connected to the broader MCU. If you went from GOTG 2 to 3 without seeing any of the others you would be a bit confused why Gamora was dead.
Being disconnected from the multiverse or Kang storyline is not exactly unique to this Film either. Eternals and Wakanda Forever were also both relatively self-contained.
Bow to the PrototypeAnd Infinite War/Endgame has everything from Phases 1-3 as required viewing for them. And Love and Thunder is technically required for Vol. 3 to explain where Thor went between Endgame and V3.
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonI was amused there was literally no reference to L&T in the whole film that I recall. The Thor image in the credits coming from Infinity War.
It didn't explicitly Canon Discontinuity it or anything but there was still a lack.
I don't see why we should consider this movie disconnected from the MCU just because people liked it and it has become trendy not to like the MCU. Sure, it lacked an interdimensional threat which has become frequent nowadays, but so did Wakanda Forever. And Guardians of the Galaxy 2 did not have a lot of connections with the rest of the MCU either anyway.
Also, it's not because no connection is evident now that it won't be at some point in the future. Ant-Man and the Wasp was mostly self-contained, but it seeded the resolution of Endgame.
By the way, is the High Evolutionary supposed to be dead? Sure, the last we see of him is on an exploding spaceship, but I don't think we see saw him actually dying...
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.It's hardly fair to dismiss the ongoing backlash towards the MCU as being completely "trendy" when there's a significant amount of fair criticism to make towards the post-Endgame slate. I don't deny that a lot of the hate gets pretty forced and stupid but it's more than just "trendy".
As far as connection or disconnection from the rest of the MCU, I think that's a bad angle to view it from. I loved Vol. 3, and part of why I enjoyed it more than most previous MCU films is because it...kinda felt less like the "stereotypical" MCU film, if that makes sense? Now, when I say "the stereotypical MCU film", I'm not saying every single MCU film follows this or that this has been a long problem before Endgame or Infinity War or whatever. What I'm saying is that there's a pretty same-y feeling to a lot of the previous MCU films I've seen that Vol. 3 doesn't really fall into.

He's clearly against collecting Celestial bills.