Follow TV Tropes

Following

Misused: Caffeine Bullet Time

Go To

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#1: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:20:11 PM

Caffeine Bullet Time specifies in the very first line that it's a comedy trope for characters gaining super-speed and saving the day as a result, all through caffeine or a similarly energizing food/drink. The usage, though...

In the Wick Check Bullet Time, 50 wicks were checked. Of those 50 wicks, we found:

  • Correct: 2/50, or 4%
  • Nonheroic Superspeed: 4/50, or 8%
  • General Hyperactivity: 10/50, or 20%
  • Accomplishing the mundane: 6/50, or 12%
  • Non-Caffeine Bullet Time: 2/50, or 4%
  • ZCE: 20/50, or 40%
  • Other: 6/50, or 12%

Obviously, there's a problem here. Additionally, many of the current examples would better fit tropes like Klatchian Coffee or Sugar Makes Kids Hyper. With only a 4% proper usage, or a 12% proper usage if nonheroic superspeed qualifies, I'm not sure the current definition can be saved outside of the yard or a TLP effort.

So... Disambig, maybe, between two tropes I mentioned before and the yarded version if it's ever recreated, and anything else that might come up in discussion?

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#2: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:23:47 PM

Disambiguating and yarding sounds like a good idea.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#3: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:25:03 PM

I am not sure about disambiguating if Sugar Makes Kids Hyper is still in the TLP. Maybe we can use Super-Speed if we do disambiguate.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 20th 2022 at 12:26:47 PM

Macron's notes
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#4: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:26:04 PM

If SMKH gets launched, disambiguate. Otherwise, redirect to Klatchian Coffee.

Edit: [down] is better

Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 20th 2022 at 11:35:20 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#5: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:26:35 PM

I'm good with throwing Super-Speed on the disambig. That way there'll be two tropes and if the draft launches it can go up there too.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#6: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:42:07 PM

I would suggest Power-Up Food for the disambiguation list too, since caffeine isn't just limited to drinks.

GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#7: Oct 20th 2022 at 9:58:43 PM

I'd be fine with disambiguating and Yarding, with Beverage Tropes being another place to put on the disambiguation page since caffeine is usually consumed via beverages.

You can't always get what you want.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#8: Oct 20th 2022 at 10:53:04 PM

I've thought the trope is "sugar-induced super reflexes", but with this wick check it's probably best to disambig and yard.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
MatthewLMayfield The Mad Titan from wherever he damn well pleases (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
The Mad Titan
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#10: Oct 21st 2022 at 2:01:27 AM

I admit that I didn't know this trope covered sugar highs in addition to caffeine buzzes, since sugar only has a one-off mention at the beginning while a full paragraph is dedicated to the danger of drinking too much caffeine in real life (probably because sugar highs are an urban legend, while caffeine actually can be dangerous in high doses).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 21st 2022 at 4:01:43 AM

You can't always get what you want.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#11: Oct 21st 2022 at 4:35:50 AM

[tup] Disambig and yard

[down] Good point. Retracting my yard vote.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Oct 21st 2022 at 8:38:43 AM

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#12: Oct 21st 2022 at 4:59:34 AM

I did say yard, but I didn't give much thought regarding the potential description, as "sugar/energy drink/coffee temporary superpowers" may just be Power-Up Food, and Sugar Makes Kids Hyper covers downplayed examples I had in mind.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#13: Oct 21st 2022 at 6:52:28 AM

Disambig/yard sounds good.

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#14: Oct 21st 2022 at 10:10:51 AM

Don't forget that tea and cola are also usually caffeinated.

Kirby is awesome.
WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#15: Oct 21st 2022 at 10:43:29 AM

[up][up][up] I think the idea here is that the caffeine isn't meant to be a power-up... but in the hands of someone who drinks it, especially if they're already hyper, it gives them a boost of energy strong enough to basically stop time. I'm mostly thinking of the scene in Over the Hedge. The soda that Hammy drinks isn't a Power-Up Food... it's just particularly strong for him, considering he's already hyper.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 (On A Trope Odyssey)
#16: Oct 21st 2022 at 12:54:27 PM

I don't understand why people misuse this trope for any kind of hyperactivity, since the title is pretty explicitly about Bullet Time levels of Super-Speed.

The concept of caffeine/sugar high being exaggerated into super speed for comedic purposes seems to be a real trope. If we remake this trope, the part about the speed being used for heroic purposes ought to be made optional.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#17: Oct 21st 2022 at 12:59:03 PM

I think it was brought up during the wick check building, but how many examples would there be was the concern. We can remove "heroic" as a requirement, allow specific "Non-Caffeine", and move "General Hyperactivity" to the abovementioned TLP. It would up the "correct" count to 18/50.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#18: Oct 21st 2022 at 10:58:32 PM

[up]Maybe we could do that, maybe also with a rename (though it might not be necessary with just under 2/5 of the wicks being correct if we adjust the definition that way, as opposed to the current situation of just a couple of them being correct).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 21st 2022 at 12:59:54 PM

You can't always get what you want.
WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#19: Oct 22nd 2022 at 12:01:45 AM

I think the concern is that if we don't rename it, people won't realize it changed and continue to shoehorn every other random caffeine-related example we have.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20: Oct 22nd 2022 at 12:03:53 AM

If substances other than coffee caffeine would be allowed, the title would no longer make sense.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 22nd 2022 at 10:10:27 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#21: Oct 22nd 2022 at 12:05:28 AM

I assume you meant coffee as a stand-in for all caffeinated beverages since there's also tea, soda, energy drinks, etc.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
GastonRabbit MOD Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#22: Oct 23rd 2022 at 3:05:34 PM

Hooked a crowner for whether to disambiguate.

You can't always get what you want.
WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#23: Oct 23rd 2022 at 3:08:12 PM

Expanding to "caffeine gives bullet time powers" was suggested, but IDK if that one is workable with the current issue and it might be best to re-try such a thing in the TLP (or yard it).

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#24: Oct 23rd 2022 at 4:25:23 PM

[up]I'd say it isn't workable since the wick check didn't pick up anything like that, so I'm leaving it off because I don't want any repeats of what happened when TRS tried to redefine Suddenly Sexuality in a way that ended up not having enough examples to work with.

You can't always get what you want.
WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#25: Oct 23rd 2022 at 4:27:05 PM

Makes sense. If someone wants to Yard it, that's a free action anyway.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

Trope Repair Shop: Caffeine Bullet Time
23rd Oct '22 3:04:25 PM

Crown Description:

Caffeine Bullet Time is frequently misused. What should be done with it?

Total posts: 30
Top