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Note: This thread was proposed and written by kundoo.

At first I suspected there's overlap between Is That What Theyre Calling It Now and Imagined Innuendo, because the distinction wasn't clear to me from the description. I assumed Imagined Innuendo is when there is a genuine misunderstanding between characters and Is That What Theyre Calling It Now is when one character pretends to misinterpret something as an innuendo for the sake of a joke. Imagined Innuendo is indeed what I thought it was, but Is That What Theyre Calling It Now seems to have a problem.

  • Wick Check

    • 64% of examples are just tropers potholing to this page to highlight a euphemsim (and not necessarily an in-universe one).
    • 10% are in-universe misanderstanding, i.e. Imagined Innuendo.
    • Only 6% are about intentional misinterpretation, which means my initial assumption was wrong (Also, this might be Heh Heh, You Said "X"). Technically the examples that use the stock phrase might be added here, since it's usually said as a joke. I think. But it's still a stock phrase.
    • 12% are the usage of the stock phrase.
    • 8% are ZCE or unclear.

I suggest disambiguating Is That What Theyre Calling It Now between Imagined Innuendo, Un Entendre, Accidental Innuendo and Heh Heh, You Said "X"

Wick check:

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    Euphemism pothole 32/ 50 (64%) 
    In-universe misunderstanding 5/ 50 (10%) 
    In-universe quip 3/ 50 (6%) 
  • WesternAnimation.F Is For Family: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: Kevin reassures Frank that he's not doing anything with the girl down the street. Frank sarcastically tells him that he used to "not do anything" too, and that's where Kevin came from.
  • Recap.Frasier S 06 E 06 Secret Admirer: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: When Niles mentions Maris just responded to his defiance by "stroking her ocelot", Martin quips that they have a cream for that.
  • Lady in the Dark: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: Charley insinuates that "color plates" might be the new "etchings":
    Russell: Maggie—either Alison leaves the magazine or I do. This is the end—the absolute end.
    Maggie: Now, Russell...
    Russell: I meant it. She's just calmly loaned my color plates to a friend until Wednesday.
    Charley: Say, that's kind of new... "I'd like you to come up to the apartment and see my color plates."
    Russell: Oh, don't be so Goddamn bright, Johnson—you sicken me.
    A variation of the stock phrase is used 6/ 50 (12%) 
    ZCE or unclear 4/ 50 (8%) 

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 31st 2022 at 4:19:26 AM

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Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#1: Oct 15th 2022 at 8:20:44 AM

To-do list:

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed and written by kundoo.

At first I suspected there's overlap between Is That What Theyre Calling It Now and Imagined Innuendo, because the distinction wasn't clear to me from the description. I assumed Imagined Innuendo is when there is a genuine misunderstanding between characters and Is That What Theyre Calling It Now is when one character pretends to misinterpret something as an innuendo for the sake of a joke. Imagined Innuendo is indeed what I thought it was, but Is That What Theyre Calling It Now seems to have a problem.

  • Wick Check

    • 64% of examples are just tropers potholing to this page to highlight a euphemsim (and not necessarily an in-universe one).
    • 10% are in-universe misanderstanding, i.e. Imagined Innuendo.
    • Only 6% are about intentional misinterpretation, which means my initial assumption was wrong (Also, this might be Heh Heh, You Said "X"). Technically the examples that use the stock phrase might be added here, since it's usually said as a joke. I think. But it's still a stock phrase.
    • 12% are the usage of the stock phrase.
    • 8% are ZCE or unclear.

I suggest disambiguating Is That What Theyre Calling It Now between Imagined Innuendo, Un Entendre, Accidental Innuendo and Heh Heh, You Said "X"

Wick check:

    open/close all folders 

    Euphemism pothole 32/ 50 (64%) 
    In-universe misunderstanding 5/ 50 (10%) 
    In-universe quip 3/ 50 (6%) 
  • WesternAnimation.F Is For Family: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: Kevin reassures Frank that he's not doing anything with the girl down the street. Frank sarcastically tells him that he used to "not do anything" too, and that's where Kevin came from.
  • Recap.Frasier S 06 E 06 Secret Admirer: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: When Niles mentions Maris just responded to his defiance by "stroking her ocelot", Martin quips that they have a cream for that.
  • Lady in the Dark: Is That What Theyre Calling It Now: Charley insinuates that "color plates" might be the new "etchings":
    Russell: Maggie—either Alison leaves the magazine or I do. This is the end—the absolute end.
    Maggie: Now, Russell...
    Russell: I meant it. She's just calmly loaned my color plates to a friend until Wednesday.
    Charley: Say, that's kind of new... "I'd like you to come up to the apartment and see my color plates."
    Russell: Oh, don't be so Goddamn bright, Johnson—you sicken me.
    A variation of the stock phrase is used 6/ 50 (12%) 
    ZCE or unclear 4/ 50 (8%) 

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 31st 2022 at 4:19:26 AM

You can't always get what you want.
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#4: Oct 15th 2022 at 8:24:58 AM

Sure. It being in Stock Phrases doesn't help it either.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 15th 2022 at 6:25:09 PM

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MatthewLMayfield The Mad Titan from wherever he damn well pleases (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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NotGonnaDoALot4 Man in the Yellow Hat from God knows. Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#6: Oct 15th 2022 at 8:34:56 AM

Disambig. Gets rid of another stock phrase to boot.

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themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#9: Oct 15th 2022 at 11:20:03 AM

I agree with disambiguating plus the name being a stock phrase being a problem.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#10: Oct 15th 2022 at 11:22:28 AM

Disambig[tup]

[down] Fixed.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 15th 2022 at 3:49:17 PM

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#12: Oct 15th 2022 at 12:45:00 PM

[tup] For Disambig. I think Unusual Euphemism would fit on the list as well.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#14: Oct 15th 2022 at 4:44:14 PM

Given that Sexual Euphemism exists, you can add that to the disambig list or go for a complete redirect

GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#16: Oct 17th 2022 at 9:22:33 AM

[up][up]Disambiguation pages' contents can be subject to change, and likewise, sometimes redirects get turned into disambiguation pages (which is what happened to Completely Missing The Point a few years ago). That's why I usually word crowner options for disambiguating in ways like "Disambiguate between [list of pages] and possibly other tropes" to avoid giving the impression the list can't be changed.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Oct 17th 2022 at 9:37:24 AM

[tup] Disambig. Adding entries to the disambig list is a free action, though a redirect to any one page is a choice.

GastonRabbit MOD Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#18: Oct 18th 2022 at 2:44:07 AM

Hooked a crowner so we can get this one taken care of.

You can't always get what you want.
GastonRabbit MOD Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#20: Oct 25th 2022 at 4:21:22 PM

Okay, I was in the process of converting the page into a disambiguation, and now I'm wondering if there is a distinction between Imagined Innuendo and Un Entendre. I'll go ask the duplicate tropes thread.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 25th 2022 at 6:22:01 AM

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GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#21: Oct 26th 2022 at 2:16:41 AM

I disambiguated the page. If Trope Talk reveals that two of the listings are duplicates, the list can be revised later.

Anyway, here are the wicks.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 26th 2022 at 4:17:02 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#22: Oct 26th 2022 at 2:58:35 PM

Verdict is yes, they are dupes. So, we need to see about merging them, either here or another thread.

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GastonRabbit MOD Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#23: Oct 26th 2022 at 6:49:42 PM

Let's go ahead and get it out of the way in this thread since the wick counts are low enough to not really get in the way of cleanup of Is That What Theyre Calling It Now, especially since Is That What Theyre Calling It Now already has a lower wick count than a lot of other projects (with a little over 500 wicks compared to several having four-digit wick counts).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 26th 2022 at 8:51:23 AM

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badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#24: Oct 26th 2022 at 6:53:14 PM

Merge Imagined Innuendo into Un Entendre. Only ~50 wicks to handle that way. Vice versa would involve ~150. Didn't see the crowner there.

Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 26th 2022 at 9:16:20 AM

GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#25: Oct 26th 2022 at 6:57:31 PM

[up]It doesn't look like you voted that way on the crowner.

You can't always get what you want.

26th Oct '22 6:47:46 PM

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A Trope Talk thread decided that Imagined Innuendo and Un Entendre are duplicates. Should they be merged?

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