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#1: Oct 9th 2022 at 1:37:55 PM

OP credits go to Acebrock, who gave others permission to launch this thread with their OP


Okay this is a case where I'm not entirely sure what to do. The concept (a camera shot at the beginning going from ocean to land) seems perfectly tropable, but it's never gotten out of starvation range on Wick (currently sitting at 20 as of this writing if you exclude tropes needing wicks, the TRS queue, and pre-2010 starving tropes).

The only ideas I have on offer are cutting and yarding, or finding a similar trope to merge it with, unless someone wants to run it through TLP to get more examples.

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 9th 2022 at 4:40:13 AM

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#3: Oct 9th 2022 at 1:45:24 PM

Maybe it's just that rare. Wonder if it can be merged with Epic Tracking Shot or just cut if there isn't a better idea. Alternatively, send to TLP for examples.

Dramatic Landfall Shot not indexed at Title Sequence despite being "an opening shot" may have contributed to obscurity.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 9th 2022 at 11:51:18 AM

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#4: Oct 9th 2022 at 3:11:24 PM

[up] Merge or send to TLP can work.

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#5: Oct 9th 2022 at 4:49:22 PM

Merge. I'm against sending it to TLP unless someone in this thread offers to sponsor it; otherwise, we can Yard it, but that's a free action.

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#7: Oct 9th 2022 at 5:14:37 PM

I copied all non ZCE examples onto Epic Tracking Shot

Edit: merge, by the way

Edited by randomtroper89 on Oct 9th 2022 at 10:04:37 AM

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#9: Oct 9th 2022 at 6:06:57 PM

The stuntman made a Dramatic Landfall Shot on a soft giant foam mat that reads "MERGE"

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#12: Oct 10th 2022 at 6:19:07 AM

Let's waive the Three-Day Rule for the crowner, since we don't have enough consensus via posts, but it's still pretty close.

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#13: Oct 10th 2022 at 8:14:13 AM

I voted for merging, but I have one reservation about how the definition of Epic Tracking Shot starts:

"An Epic Tracking Shot is the use of camera movement that defies typical expectations, with unusual complexity, length or "impossible" movement. For example, the camera could go from a city skyline into an apartment, and then through a keyhole into the bathroom."

A Dramatic Landfall Shot may have defied typical expectations and seemed "impossible" a hundred years ago, but since today you'd get exactly this view if you approach a coastline in a low-flying plane, I don't think that's really true anymore.

Still, I think it fits the spirit of Epic Tracking Shot, but maybe the definition of ETS should be tweaked to tone down the "impossible" aspect if we are to merge the tropes?

Edited by GnomeTitan on Oct 10th 2022 at 5:14:35 PM

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#14: Oct 10th 2022 at 10:20:59 AM

[up]We could tweak the definition of Epic Tracking Shot if necessary. Pretty much the same thing happened when The Gods Must Be Idiots was merged with God Is Inept.

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#15: Oct 10th 2022 at 1:53:13 PM

Epic Tracking Shot is different from Dramatic Landfall Shot since a camera moving from water/air to land isn't impossible and takes no visual trickery. I'd rather snip this (or I'll re-run at TLP) than merge.

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#16: Oct 10th 2022 at 1:55:02 PM

I guess we could keep the crowner the same, but treat the redirect option as just redirecting while sending the examples to the Salvage Yard.

Edit: Eh... I just ended up removing the word "merge" and left "redirect" while adding a reference to Yarding or sending to TLP.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 10th 2022 at 3:57:52 AM

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#17: Oct 11th 2022 at 5:43:30 AM

Voted for redirect and send original definition to Yard or TLP. (For some reason, my votes made on my phone don't always register on the poll.)

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#18: Oct 13th 2022 at 12:36:14 AM

Calling in favor of redirecting to Epic Tracking Shot and Yarding the original concept.

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Trope Repair Shop: Dramatic Landfall Shot
10th Oct '22 6:18:06 AM

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Dramatic Landfall Shot is not thriving and concerns were raised that it's redundant with Epic Tracking Shot. What should be done with it?

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