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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#2951: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:17:09 PM

I already removed my reservations for a few Israeli TV series. Sinister is taking the Code 8 Sequel. No news on Triple Threat 2. Spy X Family is a collab between me and Sinister. No news on Die Hard TV series, either.

There is one comic, Cat and Mouse, which, once I know when the release date is coming for the final volume, I do intend to reserve, and since most of my reservations are up in the air RN besides S x F, I should be able to reserve it.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2952: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:17:56 PM

Why add an extra month? What does that really accomplish? Two weeks is enough in my opinion. The primary reason for it is to avoid spoilers, but that’s just needlessly putting things off

Edit: wait, I think I misunderstood - you meant that a month and two weeks would pass between reservation and discussion. My bad - yes, that’s how it would go

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:18:40 AM

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#2953: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:18:27 PM

yeah, i wanna make it very clear that when i talk about behavioral issues i am not talking about anyone who's been posting here. yall have been very cooperative once we got past the initial roughness and it's clear to me that you do genuinely want to fix these problems. it's all preemptive-slash-hypothetical, because it's better to have a policy and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#2954: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:19:10 PM

[up][up] The month is before release, I was referencing ACW's comment.

Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
#2955: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:19:18 PM

Agreed that I'm in favor of two weeks.

The explanations for a separate rule for ongoing stories has already been explicitly explained at length. It is to keep reservations from being lost to maintain reservations of works that are not currently active/not currently providing candidates. This has been discussed prior and generally seems to be agreed upon as reasonable to my understanding.

Edited by Riley1sCool on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:20:24 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2956: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:20:30 PM

The waiting period thing for the other tropes is because those tropes tend to attract knee-jerk reactions and speculation. That's why most "waiting period" tropes are Audience Reactions and things that involve history, or both (like Values Dissonance). Complete Monster is pretty much an objective trope with a subjective discussion process... who counts and who doesn't isn't something that could be changed by waiting a month.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2957: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:21:44 PM

It’s largely a courtesy thing to avoid spoilers, plus it gives an actual concrete date for the discussion to help manage when things are actually happening.

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Goku Black
#2958: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:22:08 PM

The two weeks is a) to avoid spoilers and knee jerk right after launch b) so people can gather their thoughts on people and perhaps even discuss with others.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2959: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:22:38 PM

To be clear, I'm responding to the idea of using a Broken Base-style waiting period like Edgar suggested. The two week thing makes sense and works.

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ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2960: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:22:47 PM

Okay, but I still feel 5 active reservations is a lot for a month and a half. While there may be a lot if works out there, how many are out there in that time frame where 2+ people even care?

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2961: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:23:12 PM

(Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to changing the waiting period from 2 weeks after release to 1, but we can discuss that when the threads open again.)

So is it official: Reservations can be made 1 month before release?

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2962: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:23:36 PM

I mistook what he meant - he meant that you can reserve it a month before release date, then the discussion would happen two weeks after release date - ergo, a month and two weeks. I misunderstood too but all that’s changed there is the amount of time before release a work can be reserved.

[up][up] The issue is that those reservations for ongoing stuff would be for well outside of that month and a half window - some stuff could take years to wrap up, but keeping the reservation between seasons makes the most sense among the options. Ergo, a slight amount of reservations specifically for ongoing stuff so that one of the 5 slots isn’t taken for perhaps years

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:25:41 AM

ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2963: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:25:31 PM

I meant the baseline 5. I'm not touching the 2 for ongoing.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#2964: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:25:51 PM

[up][up][up] How many reservations would you suggest? I'm personally fine with 4 or 5, I think 3 would be cutting it awfully short and 2 would be the same but worse. Besides, the suggestion isn't meant to prevent regulars from working on multiple threads, but to allow new blood to work on write-ups.

[up][up] Personally, I'm fine with having an exception for VERY long ongoing series (such as soap-operas and long-runner manga) but I think that limited releases (anything under 2 years) should be part of the 5 reservation limit.

Edited by Edgar81539 on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:27:49 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2965: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:26:35 PM

There's plenty coming out all the time. Nothing stops them from jumping in for that.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2966: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:26:48 PM

Oh, in that case, being frank? 5 reservations is basically nothing when you keep in mind the sheer amount of art forms out there that can be reserved. The odds of that becoming too many is… basically nill

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#2967: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:27:04 PM

i would honestly be okay with 3 ongoing alongside the 5 regular. there's a lot of ongoing series and 3 really isn't that many.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2968: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:27:31 PM

That sounds reasonable.

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Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#2969: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:27:44 PM

Yeah, there's tons of stuff coming out all the time, quite literally an embarrassment of riches and nothing is preventing anyone from collabing. I say 5 baseline that can be grabbed within 2 weeks of works' release, 3 extra allotments for special ongoing works that one wants to keep for a lengthy time period as my final word.

Edited by Ravok on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:28:13 AM

No! That is NOT Solid Snake! Stop impersonating him!
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2970: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:27:54 PM

I 100% agree, in case that wasn’t obvious [lol]

ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2971: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:28:50 PM

I seriously think a baseline if 3 is plenty for the time frame we're discussing. That's one every other week.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but consuming that many brand new works (excluding ongoing projects) in 6 weeks is the exception, not the rule.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2973: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:30:19 PM

[up][up] I really disagree - disregarding “regular” vs “new”, people simply read and consume at different rates. It’s not unreasonable to assume someone watches five new movies in a month.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#2974: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:33:11 PM

[up][up][up]Just watching 5 seasonal anime would get you to the limit. And I know plenty of people that watch 8-10, I personally don't, but it's not an uncommon phenomenon.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2975: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:33:36 PM

Seasonal anime would PROBABLY be ongoing.


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