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ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2926: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:03:19 PM

That's...not a terrible idea actually (Mir, I assume by date you mean the reservation date and not the release date?).

Though question: Will this 1 month/2 week/whatever rule apply to current reservations? E.G. will I need to remove Blade, Deadpool 3, and Expendables 4 from my reservations, even though all have set dates?

Edited by ACW on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:03:52 AM

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#2927: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:04:02 PM

i think that'll be problematic if, say, a new user who wants the work happens to join in that conversation and gets shouted down because "it should go to someone who knows what they're doing" or what have you. it would encourage the clique-ish behavior we're trying to get rid of.

Edited by ChloeJessica on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:04:17 AM

Mediawatcher Since: Dec, 2015
#2928: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:05:39 PM

Does this mean all the unreleased reservations are to be removed or at least the ones that don’t have a release date close by?

Edited by Mediawatcher on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:06:00 AM

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#2929: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:05:47 PM

Maybe we could than just do rock, paper and scissors for it. Yeah I know Chloe was joking

But the decision is random and would than mean we don't have drawn out fights (and this doesn't mean the people competing can't collab on the work too).

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Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#2930: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:07:09 PM

I see no issue with just "first come, first served" for midnight releasing...we still have a limit of 5 reservations so there's plenty works to go around, I'm not a fan of "mad rush to discuss it on the day it releases" or "random selection through a game." Collaboration is still encouraged through this.

Edited by Ravok on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:07:34 AM

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#2931: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:07:35 PM

It would require some policing, but there's also the approach of, "You've done a lot, so and so. Give otherling a turn."

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2932: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:07:37 PM

At that point it’s just the same reservation system we already have but far more combative and out of people’s hands, which will only lead to more negative feelings. If people want to collab that’s always an option, but I don’t see why it can’t just be done a certain amount of time before the release date instead of everyone fighting for it on the day

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:08:11 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2933: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:08:26 PM

We're also trying to cut down on clique stuff, so that's not a good idea, IMO

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#2934: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:09:03 PM

if there was a random selection process you'd want it to be something that's publicly verifiable so people can't lie about the results (not that i think anyone participating in this discussion would do that, but it's still something that should be protected against since we're trying to encourage new blood).

Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
#2935: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:10:01 PM

I'm fine with "first come first serve" for this— I don't want to overcomplicate it or make it more combative.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2936: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:10:20 PM

Mediawatcher: Yeah, I know we're still discussing exactly how far ahead something can be reserved, but works that DON'T have release dates (excluding ongoing works like manga and such) probably need to be removed from the reservation page(s).

Ravok Son of Liberty from Big Shell Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Son of Liberty
#2937: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:10:51 PM

Agreed, we're able to talk things out and collab if more than one or two people chime in the day 2 weeks or a month (whichever we decide) before release of a work...the idea of "rush to discuss it on the day it releases" or "idk play a game for it" is needlessly competitive and, yes, clique-ish.

My only addendum is I still maintain that we should have "ongoing" extras to accommodate for TV shows or comics, wherein if you grabbed, say, a TV show for the first season within 2 weeks/a month of its release, you can keep your name penned in without affecting your 5 reservations during the off-seasons.

Edited by Ravok on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:11:42 AM

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Mediawatcher Since: Dec, 2015
#2938: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:11:43 PM

[up][up]Alright I think that’s a reasonable decision

So ongoing stuff like comics, manga, and tv shows are fine since they release own timely basis, but movies and video games are a different story

Edited by Mediawatcher on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:13:04 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2939: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:11:51 PM

As long as we open that for collaborations, I think that works.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#2940: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:12:51 PM

If anything, this could probably be covered by having a waiting period for write-ups much like Broken Base and other tropes already have. This would prevent a deluge of suggestions for the same work popping up the same day it releases and most of the possible in-fighting. 1 week and 1 month could be tried.

[up][up][up] I heavily disagree with having any kind of loopholes that enable people to have more than 5 reservations going on at the same time. If you feel strongly about a new series and really want to cover it, you can leave one work behind. There's not a lack of people that would pick up after you.

Edited by Edgar81539 on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:15:19 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2941: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:13:16 PM

We actually discussed that previously, in the discussion period

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2942: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:13:35 PM

Alright, so I'll have to remove my Blade reservation?

Also, I think 1 month works. So something coming out, say, February 1 can be claimed January 1 and discussed February 15 (I assume the 2-week rule still applies?).

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#2943: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:13:37 PM

tbh, the first thing that crossed my mind (which i didn't say at the time because it felt needlessly combative) was that people are responsible for their own behavior and if someone throws a bitchfit because someone else beat them to the punch by a few seconds, that person doesn't have the temperament to productively contribute to the thread anyway. we're trying to fix things, but you can't fix people. there's always going to be problematic people, and they can be dealt with according to the rules.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2944: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:13:48 PM

The thread already has a “two weeks after release date” rule for spoiler purposes

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#2945: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:14:36 PM

[up][up]I don't disagree. Sometimes when I've been beaten to a work, I'm like "dammit, I wanted that sadsad", and then just move on.

Edited by ACW on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:14:47 AM

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2946: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:14:57 PM

Every time I’ve been beaten to a work, I just… ask if it can be split. That has never led to anything other than a collaboration, especially because since people are often regulars on both threads, there’s often an agreement of “I’ll take it on one thread and you take it on the other”

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Oct 19th 2022 at 6:17:14 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2947: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:15:47 PM

Well, we're all gonna have to make some concessions here. Just grab Blade when you can, ACW

Mediawatcher Since: Dec, 2015
#2948: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:16:37 PM

Edited by Mediawatcher on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:18:01 AM

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#2949: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:16:59 PM

[up]x6 Yeah, 1 month and 2 weeks after release should be ok, I agree.

Edited by Edgar81539 on Oct 19th 2022 at 3:17:27 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#2950: Oct 19th 2022 at 3:17:07 PM

Guys, we're trying to diminish the possessiveness attitude here.


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