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G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
#251: Oct 11th 2022 at 5:25:45 AM

Delling sorta gives me Patrick Zala vibes, in that he's dead-set in his authority and on most occasions won't take no for an answer. That being said, he may have to seriously step up his game if everyone is starting to work against him. An ex-military guy like him probably won't take everything lying down.

"We all fail. We all make mistakes. That is what makes us human."
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#252: Oct 11th 2022 at 5:26:48 AM

Yeah, I'm not particularly a Gundam fan, so it's going to come down to the character writing for me. And part of what makes good character writing is not pulling bait-and-switches... or at least, acknowledging that no one is going to be happy if they write themselves into a situation where Elan and Suletta kiss at the end of an episode and then they immediately launch into the ED where Suletta's rubbing noses with Miorine.

If that's the choice they want to go for, they totally can, it's just not something that will interest me or keep me around.

(I guess IBO made a stab at polyamory, but none of these characters have a substantial dynamic with each other yet. It's just that Miorine and Suletta are all over the promo material and the Utena, uh, homage going on.)

Edited by RedSavant on Oct 11th 2022 at 5:28:05 AM

It's been fun.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#253: Oct 11th 2022 at 5:29:08 AM

I haven't watched a good Mecha in a while, so Imma watch it...unless the plot gets really really dumb.

Lesbians ain't worth a dumb plot.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#254: Oct 11th 2022 at 5:31:51 AM

Basically. If they get to actually talk in an upcoming episode and turn out to have an appealing dynamic, then I'm more likely to stick around, but.

It's been fun.
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#255: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:11:54 AM

Nah, Elan's actual interest is in Aerial, not Suletta. Shame on you man, attracting a girl's interest so you can creep on her sister!

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#256: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:11:54 AM

[up][up][up] Conversely, I don't think a good plot is enough reason to stick around if it's all bait. Would sour me on the series too much to enjoy it.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 11th 2022 at 2:12:03 PM

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#257: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:22:53 AM

I doubt Elan is gonna be the main love interest even if he gets to kiss Suletta. Even Utena kisses two dudes in her own series (though her relationship with them is far from healthy).

Edited by RAlexa21th on Oct 11th 2022 at 6:46:00 AM

Continue writing our story of peace.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#258: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:39:56 AM

It'd take more than that for it to just be bait, yes. But it's also something that can become pretty obvious before the end of a series.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#259: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:45:05 AM

Yeah. It all comes down to strong writing, and bait-and-switch (not even specifically yuribait, just a twist like the Cross Ange one mentioned above) is usually pretty weak-ass writing.

It's been fun.
RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#260: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:49:29 AM

Two out of three source materials point towards Suletta and Miorine getting together, assuming that they survive.

Continue writing our story of peace.
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#261: Oct 11th 2022 at 6:57:36 AM

I love Miorine's expression in this Japanese Pun meme [lol]

The artist even uploaded an exploitable version of it!

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#262: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:07:56 AM

Elan is looking like nothing but straight bait to me. Suletta/Miorine is obviously going to be the primary relationship focus, however that ends up. But even Suletta will have to interact with boys on occasion.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#263: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:13:45 AM

History in general would suggest that it's far more likely that all the contextual clues and suggestive openings and endings are more likely to turn out to be yuri bait than for even the flimsiest straight couple to be picked. Most of the time, the best outcome is just not introducing a straight romance and leaving it somewhat open-ended.

Sure, there's being optimistic about it, but it's not like there isn't precedent here.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 11th 2022 at 3:14:52 PM

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#264: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:25:38 AM

[up][up] This wouldn't be the first heterobaiting mecha show either.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#265: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:27:45 AM

The only other one that sort of comes to my mind is Kannazuki no Miko, and that is not a thing to emulate. <_>

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 11th 2022 at 3:27:58 PM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#266: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:28:29 AM

I don't think anything's being baited yet. It's just that it would be weird for the protagonist to end up with someone other than the other main protagonist she's paired with in every promotional material, that's all.

It's been fun.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#267: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:29:04 AM

I'm a Gundam vet a bit, so I already know what I'm watching for.

That said, I hope you guys watching for lesbians get what you came for too.

And honestly, I can probably tolerate the plot going badly if the characters are good enough.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#268: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:32:56 AM

As I said, that's not why I'm watching, but it'd annoy me enough to stop. The perils of setting expectations. [lol]

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#269: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:40:17 AM

My favorite hetbaiting mecha is Promare.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#270: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:41:32 AM

Bullshit. Promare is gay as fuck, and its 100% intentional.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#271: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:43:59 AM

Am I misunderstanding what hetbaiting means? Promare teases you with a heterosexual pairing at the start only to go all in on the gay pairing.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#272: Oct 11th 2022 at 7:45:19 AM

I'm saying, all of the marketing was focused on the gay shit.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
ComicX6 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
ScrewySqrl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#274: Oct 11th 2022 at 8:40:55 AM

With all the yuribait/straightbait talk going on, who's to say Suletta doesn't go for the harem ending of her Mecha Otome game?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!

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