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A thread offering assistance and support for tropers covering Marvel's many, many stories and characters.

This includes the shared Marvel Universe, but not the cultural Disney juggernaut known as the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). One of our aims is to disentangle tropes and characters from the MCU adaptations from pages about their source material.

This scope does cover Marvel comic, manga and webcomic stories, characters and tropes that are unconnected to that shared Marvel Universe - e.g. their licensed Star Wars, Alien and Predator stories.

As of September 2021, there were about 27,000 Marvel comics published across 4,900 or so different series. They started publishing in the 1940s as Timely Comics, then became Atlas Comics and - eventually - Marvel. As a consequence, Marvel have a lot of Comic Book and Characters pages on the site (and have recently started publishing Webcomics as well).

The sheer scale of this means that there's so much material (with dozens of new comics added each week) that no one troper is likely to own or read all of it - especially as there are big gaps in what's available digitally or reprinted (and licensed characters and legal issues mean that certain stories may never be reprinted at all).

And that can make troping their shared universe pretty tricky - even Marvel's own creative teams have been known to lose track now and then.

We've got tropers busily revising existing pages, while others add new information weekly as new comics are published. This thread's here to help with any queries that generates, to focus work on particular pages that could use improvement, and to help ensure that we tackle works page names and other aspects in a consistent way that makes sense to readers navigating between different Marvel-related pages (as well as following best practice for the wiki as a whole).


Feel free to post here to draw attention to relevant posts or threads elsewhere - e.g. if examples, images, captions and quotes, or spoiler policies for these pages are under discussion.
There are existing threads and standard guidelines for those topics (e.g. Image Pickin' has its own, very structured, process), and this shouldn't duplicate any of that - but tropers reading this thread may wish to vote or comment once they know about those discussions.
    ComicBook page guidance 
  • If there's a consistent creative team, they should be named in the introduction. Ideally, include inkers and colorists as well as other artists.
  • The page image doesn't always have to be the first issue cover.
  • Pages for arcs, runs and events should include the relevant titles and issue numbers.
  • Pages should include start and end dates in the introduction
  • Links regarding particular characters (e.g. Wolverine) should go to their Characters page, not their ComicBook page.

    Character page guidance 
  • As a rule, characters in Marvel Universe continuity only get one Character page profile, regardless of how many different series they appear in. However:
    • Alternate Universe and Bad Future variants may justify their own profile, and sometimes the same can be said for Split Personality scenarios.
    • It may be appropriate to add a character to a relevant Character page with an intro and a link to their full profile on another page (e.g. many villains have been major characters in several different series)
  • Creation of any new Character Specific Pages, and proposals to merge any of them back into other pages, should go via the Character Specific Pages cleanup thread, but it's worth posting here as well.
  • If you're splitting, merging or moving characters between different Character pages, it's worth checking with the Character Page Cleanup thread as well as posting here.

Relevant sandboxes

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2023 at 12:48:21 PM

JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
He/Him
#301: Sep 27th 2023 at 3:26:37 PM

[up][up][tup] On merging Laura and Logan's supporting cast and enemies (although on separate pages, if I'm interpreting it right and you want to merge Rogue's Gallery and Supporting Cast together, as that one is a big no for me)[down]Oh, okay then

[up] I haven't read Ultimate Invasion yet, is 6160 straight up the new UU? If so, maybe wait until we have a Ultimate Universe (2023), Ultimate Marvel 2023 or something for the new imprint and put the character page there? Would help with not needing to move it later. Although if you want to create it now, for it to be moved later if necessary, go for it.

Edited by JDMA12 on Sep 27th 2023 at 8:18:34 AM

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#302: Sep 27th 2023 at 4:13:13 PM

No I want Rogues gallery and Supporting as separate pages

Edited by Furygildeman on Sep 27th 2023 at 4:37:01 AM

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#303: Sep 27th 2023 at 11:47:43 PM

Hmm... what should be done with the new characters from Extreme Venomverse, Edge of Venomverse Unlimited, and Death of the Venomverse? Should they all just get dumped onto the Venomverse characters page, and if so how should it be partitioned up?

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#304: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:46:27 AM

I’d say run it like Characters/Spiderverse. While we’re at it. I’d say merge in the Alternate versions of venom into it.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#305: Sep 28th 2023 at 2:34:13 AM

Hmm... I'm not sure merging the alternate incarnations of Venom page into a Venomverse character age would work. Almost none of them take part in Venomverse events, for starters.

And for the characters who do take part, we have Venomized Dr. Strange's Venom Army from the original Venomverse (which includes a variant of Carnage) and Anne Weying's Symbiote Squad from Death of the Venomverse for main characters; we have unaffiliated Venom and Carnage variants from Death of the Venomverse, and then we have the Poison Hive from the original Venomverse as antagonists.

Would it be worthwhile to create a Sandbox to workshop this, or does that contravene any of the rules?

Edited by Arawn999 on Sep 28th 2023 at 9:36:11 AM

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#307: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:34:34 PM

[up]Did we agree on using Logan over James Howlett?

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
He/Him
#308: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:54:13 PM

[up]I don't think so, only I "voted" on Logan, others just didn't say which one they prefer if any.

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#309: Sep 28th 2023 at 2:44:07 PM

I personally think Logan is more appropriate to than James Howlett as it’s the name he goes by. Though I’m open to other options

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#310: Sep 28th 2023 at 3:35:00 PM

There was a brief spell where he used James after regaining his memories. But he's almost always Logan.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#311: Sep 28th 2023 at 7:21:06 PM

Ok, I guess I'm cool with Logan. Not to make ya'll feel old but when I first started getting into comics his real name was already revealed. That and I guess I still remember X-Men Origins Wolverine.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#313: Sep 29th 2023 at 5:17:23 PM

I’m going to start on the mergers. Should I crossover these to the main pages or should I just delete?

    Wolverine 

James Logan Howlett/Wolverine

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Nationality: Canadian

Species: Human mutant

Appeared in: X-23: Target X, X-23 Vol. 2 (One-Shot), X-23 Vol. 3

For general tropes about Wolverine, see his page

Laura's "father" and genetic template, it was the Facility's attempts to replicate the Weapon X experiments that led to her creation. The exact nature of their genetic relationship varies Depending on the Writer, but their actual relationship on-page has strong elements of father/daughter. At times their interactions have been strained or rocky, and Logan freely acknowledges that he's a poor father, but he nonetheless cares immensely for Laura's well-being, and objected to her inclusion on X-Force because he was determined to see her have a chance at a normal life. Following his death she takes up his mantle as Wolverine.


  • Happily Adopted: During a flashback in The Killing Dream, Logan announces his intention to adopt Laura.
  • Hypocrite: Logan treats Hellion like dirt over his actions killing Karima, and along with Gambit wants to keep him away from Laura. Even though Wolverine has done far worse things than Julian and been forgiven for them.
  • Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Logan has at times been excessively harsh on her, and he openly acknowledges he's been a very poor father to her when Gambit challenges him on it in Paris. That said, it's clear in her solo just how much Logan truly cares for her, and how determined he's been to help her live a normal life.
  • Parental Abandonment: A flashback in issue 7 of All-New Wolverine shows Logan leaving Laura behind at the Xavier School. He genuinely believes it's in her best interests to protect her from the dangers inherent in his life, but all Laura wants is some semblance of family.
  • Parental Substitute: Regardless of the genetics involved (Laura could be either Logan's sister or daughter, largely depending on exactly how much of her genetic material is his), he and Laura share a father/daughter relationship. By the time of All-New Wolverine Laura herself has begun calling him "dad."
  • Passing the Torch: Subtly done in a flashback in issue 1 of All-New Wolverine. Laura is delirious after being shot in the head, and remembering a conversation with Logan. She's kicking herself over declining to kill an enemy when she had the chance, and it coming back to bite her (in the form of a bazooka). However Logan comforts her and congratulates her, using his own catch phrase to describe her: "You're the best there is at what you do. But that doesn't mean you have to do it." It then returns to the present, with Laura getting back up and revealing herself as The Wolverine.
  • Retcon: Laura and Logan actually shared very little time together on-panel while he was still alive. Later writers, particularly after Death of Wolverine, have used flashbacks and dialogue to suggest that they were much closer than would be evident from their actual interactions before his death.
  • The Ugly Guy's Hot Daughter: He's the ugly guy to Laura's hot daughter. It particularly stands out because she's his Opposite-Sex Clone (though depending on the genetics she may have gotten her looks from Sarah Kinney).

    Old Man Logan 

Old Man Logan

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For general tropes pertaining to Old Man Logan, see his page.

An elderly version of Logan from an alternate future, Maria Hill initially contacted him for help investigating the disappearance of Agent Lee and her strike team. It's Logan's own disappearance that prompted her to call in Laura for help.


  • Accidental Murder: Issue 11: Confused and disoriented after being blown up and shot full of tranquilizers, Logan mistakes Gabby for the Gabby of his universe, who may have killed his universe's version of Laura, and impales her on his claws. Fortunately, she has a Healing Factor and although dead, she gets better.
  • Badass in Distress: By the time Laura finds him he's hanging from the wall of Foom's stomach, up to his waist in acid with his legs already digested to the bone. She manages to pull him out.
  • Boom, Headshot!: Shot in the head by a Muramasa Bullet, which manages to penetrate his adamantium skull.
  • Easily Forgiven: Averted. Even though Logan stabbing Gabby was an accident and not his fault (which Laura does admit), she still wants nothing more to do with him afterwards.
  • Future Me Scares Me: Rather, Future Gabby Scares Logan. The Gabby of his timeline did something in the future, so although Logan isn't overtly hostile to her, (and actually has a somewhat fatherly/grandfatherly moment with her) he's nonetheless a little bit guarded around her. His attempt to warn Laura about Gabby's future fails when she (rightly) points out that this isn't his universe.
  • Half the Man He Used to Be: His legs get digested by Foom before Laura can pull him out. His adamantium skeleton remains intact from the waist down, however, and his Healing Factor regenerates the rest once he's rescued.
  • Impaled with Extreme Prejudice: After a S.H.I.E.L.D. attack drives him into a feral rage, he confuses Gabby for the Gabby of his universe, and impales her on his claws.
  • Luke, I Am Your Father: Reveals that he did raise Laura, or specifically her alternate counterpart in his timeline, in the same apartment where she currently lives.
  • Make Wrong What Once Went Right: Logan has actually been avoiding contact with Laura for fears of this. In his original timeline, his relationship with her was one of the few things he didn't screw up. He's afraid that if he becomes a part of her life again it will just give him another opportunity to mess things up between them.
  • Naked on Revival: He's stripped down after his execution by the Orphans Of X before they shove his corpse in a freezer. He's still naked after waking up when Laura removes the Muramasa Bullet and cuts away the affected tissue so his Healing Factor can work again.
  • Parental Substitute: Much like Earth-616's Logan, he became this for the X-23 of his reality. In fact it's implied he was even more so in that he had an active hand in her upbringing. By contrast, 616 Logan largely left her to her own devices after dropping her off at the Xavier School, resulting in the shakier relationship the pair had in the main universe.
  • Precrime Arrest: Ulysses has a vision that Logan will kill Gabby in the future. Maria Hill and Captain Marvel dispatch Captain America and a squad of S.H.I.E.L.D. troops to apprehend him before it can happen.
  • Swallowed Whole: Gets nommed by Fin Fang Foom. Fortunately, his healing factor allowed him to survive long enough for Laura to rescue him.
  • Testosterone Poisoning: Gets called out for this in issue 10. Laura actually chews him out when he uses a claw to pop the top on a bottle of grape juice, and leaves the cap on the floor.
  • There Was a Door: He and Gabby escape Laura's apartment when S.H.I.E.L.D. comes to arrest him by carving an opening through the walls.
  • Unstoppable Rage: Logan goes berserk in issue 11 after having his jetpack shot out of the sky, and then getting shot full of tranquilizers by S.H.I.E.L.D. operatives on the ground. Gabby tries to talk him down from it, but gets gutted for her troubles.
  • What the Hell, Hero?: Laura delivers one to him after he impales Gabby, and Laura believes she's been killed, utterly tearing him apart over his actions both verbally and physically. Even after Gabby is revealed to have survived, and stops her from killing him, Laura lays into him. Of course it's not helped that even after this Logan tries to warn her that Gabby is dangerous and can't be trusted.
  • You're Not My Father: Laura's reaction to him is hostile, to say the least. In fact she finds his presence highly upsetting. She adamantly insists he's not her Logan whenever pressed about it by Gabby, and in one case she even describes him as "twisted." Although she begins warming up to him in issue 10, their relationship is permanently soured when she believes he killed Gabby in a feral rage. Even after learning Gabby survived because of she does indeed possess a Healing Factor, Laura wants nothing more to do with him.

    Kingpin 

Wilson Fisk/The Kingpin

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Nationality: American

Species: Human

Appeared in: X-23: Target X

For general tropes about Wilson Fisk, see his page

The Kingpin of Crime, Fisk hired the Facility to deal with a problematic gangster attempting to muscle in on his territory. He became impressed enough with X-23's effectiveness that she became one of his favorite assassins.


  • Dead Guy on Display: Demands that Rice have Fade's invisible head turned over so he can hang in on his wall.
  • Dead Man's Chest: Fisk turns over four suitcases to Fade as part of their deal. Three contain $55 million as a down payment for his "niece's" return. When Fade asks about the fourth, Fisk coolly replies it contains part of The Mole. Fade is visibly Squicked out when he opens it.
  • Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Subverted. With Fade muscling in on his territory and his own men unable to deal with him, Fisk feeds information to the gangster about his beloved niece, "Samantha." This encourages Fade to up the ante in their Mob War by kidnapping her, making it personal. Unfortunately for Fade, "Samantha" is actually X-23, and was planted to get her close enough to take him out.
  • Feed the Mole: Deliberately feeds the mole Fade placed in his organization with false information indicating that X-23 is actually his niece, "Samantha." It's all part of an elaborate setup to get X-23 close enough to him that she'll be affected by a trigger scent-laced letter from her "mother."
  • Mob War: Involved in one with Fade, who is attempting to muscle in on his business and extort gratuity out of him.
  • Pay Evil unto Evil: When a rival gangster tries to muscle in on his turf, Kingpin hires the Facility and X-23 to take him out.
  • Would Hurt a Child: After X-23 murdered Fade, Kingpin had her sent to take out his wife and child, as well.

    Captain Ash 

Captain Ash

A pirate and one-time target during Laura's days as an assassin, Ash agrees to take Laura and Gabby to Madripoor so they can investigate the water bombers which sprayed Daylesville with trigger scent and kicked the plot in motion.


  • An Arm and a Leg: After learning what Ash is transporting presses one of her berserk buttons, and discovering Ash sold her out, Laura cuts off her hand and kicks her overboard in the resulting fight.
  • Eyepatch of Power: Eye patch-wearing captain of a modern day pirate ship.
  • Eye Scream: Laura put out one of her eyes back during her assassin days. She now covers the damage with an eye patch.
  • Due to the Dead: She tells Laura she's helping her because of her past relationship with Logan. As well as the generous amount Laura paid her.
  • Face–Heel Turn: She sold Laura out to Kimura the moment she boarded her ship.
  • Nothing Personal: Gabby notices Ash is surprisingly willing to help them out despite Laura having tried to kill her in the past, and succeeded in putting out one of her eyes. Ash's response suggests she sees it like this.
  • Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves: Is gunned down by Bellona after Laura is captured, when she refuses to return the children she was transporting to sell into slavery. Given that Bel orders Roughhouse to kill all the pirates once they free the kids, it's likely Ash was a dead woman walking even had she complied.
  • Ruthless Modern Pirates: When Gabby comes aboard hers hip thinking of classic Golden Age pirates, (complete with Talk Like a Pirate and Dressed to Plunder), Laura and Ash quickly make it clear she's not that kind of pirate, eye patch aside. However dialogue suggests her operations more accurately make her a smuggler rather than a pirate. Issue 15 reveals she's trafficking children, which hits one of Laura's Berserk Buttons when she finds out.
  • Slavery Is a Special Kind of Evil: Her cargo is actually a bunch of kidnapped children destined to be sold into slavery in Madripoor. Suffice to say, Laura is not happy when she finds out, and even Bellona is disgusted, and orders the kids to be returned home.
  • Too Dumb to Live: Ash mashes pisses off Laura when she discovers she was trafficking children to Madripoor to sell into slavery, calls her a "stupid <expletive deleted>" for trusting her, and honestly thinks her crew can physically restrain her. That mistake costs her a hand and gets her kicked overboard. After she's rescued by Bellona and Roughhouse she fails to learn that when you're dealing with the bad guy and they change the conditions of the deal, you take the new conditions. That gets her shot dead.

X-Men

    Beast 

Henry McCoy / Beast

Nationality: American

Species: Human mutant

Appeared in: X-23 Vol. 4

For general tropes about Beast, see his page.

One of the original five X-Men, and their go-to genius. Hank McCoy assists Laura with her missions to bring down illicit genetic experimentation.


  • Mission Control: Beast serves as this for Laura. He gave her the mission to investigate the disappearance of Dr. Marks at the Cuckoos' hands, and to investigate genetic trafficking through a local high school.

    Jubilee 

Jubilation Lee/Jubilee

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/x23_jubilee.PNG

Nationality: American

Species: Human vampire

Appeared in: X-23 Vol. 2 (One-Shot), X-23 Vol. 3

For general tropes about Jubilee, see her page.

A former mutant, Jubilee was depowered as a result of M-Day, and later was turned into a vampire. Her struggles to control her violent and monstrous impulses allow her to empathize with Laura, and they establish a quick and close friendship because of how well they understand one another.


  • Cool Big Sis: Jubilee to Laura. Although canonically she wasn't much older than Laura before she was turned, she's nonetheless an experienced X-Man, and much like Gambit offers Laura support and help, particularly by trying to break her out of her shell and teaching her to enjoy life.
  • Cute Little Fangs: Often revealed when she smiles, especially in the issues drawn by Takeda.
  • Dark Action Girl: Not by choice. Though still bubbly, her vampirism has given her a darker edge, and she's just as capable a killer as Laura. It's her own efforts to control these darker impulses that grants her such a close perspective on Laura's own troubles.
  • Dark Is Not Evil: As noted above, she's supposed to be a violent and blood-thirsty killer due to her affliction and has certainly evolved into a formidable killer, but Jubilee is still the bubbly and adorable mall rat.
  • Fire-Forged Friends: Gambit introduced Jubilee to X-23 thinking she could help Laura overcome her issues. Laura immediately attacked Jubilee thinking she was an enemy, and was jealous of how Wolverine treated her. However they eventually bonded over their shared issues with controlling their bloodlust.
  • Genki Girl: Although she can be serious when the situation calls for it, Jubilee's bubbly and carefree demeanor stands in stark contrast to Laura's stoicism.
  • Manic Pixie Dream Girl: Jubilee's foremost concern during the solo series is getting Laura to lighten up and actually enjoy life. Whether that means dragging her out shopping at an expensive Paris boutique, hitting up the nightclubs in New York City, or base jumping sans-parachute off the Eifle Tower.
  • Must Make Her Laugh: Pretty much assigns herself the mission of getting Laura to lighten up and learn to enjoy life.
  • "Not So Different" Remark: Jubilee and Laura realize they have much in common, with X-23 having to struggle with finding herself and the trigger scent and Jubilee struggling to control her newfound bloodlust. They get along really well though.
  • Vitriolic Best Buds: Jubilee and Laura didn't get off on the right foot: when she first arrived in Paris, Laura actually almost took Jubilee's head off, reacting almost instinctively as if Jubilee was a threat, and was jealous of Logan's affectionate behaviour towards Jubilee in contrast to his standoffish attitude towards her. It took a little time for Laura to warm up to her.

    Hellion 

Julian Keller/Hellion

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Nationality: American

Species: Human mutant

Appeared in: X-23 Vol. 3

One of the New X-Men, and Laura's sort-of-boyfriend, they share a mutual attraction but Laura's struggles with her emotions has prevented her from truly exploring the relationship. Hellion was crippled during Bastion's assault on San Francisco.


  • Forceful Kiss: Plants one on Laura at the end of Misadventures in Babysitting, but she rejects him.
  • Handicapped Badass: Hellion may have lost his hands, but his telekinesis is as strong as ever.
  • Heroic BSoD: Is in the middle of a bad one when he shows up in Misadventures in Babysitting after killing Karima to defend Utopia. It undoes much of his prior Character Development and reverts him to his previous Jerkass persona.
  • In the Back: When Hellverine assaults Laura she attacks him in self-defense. Julian walks in in time to see her stab Logan's body, but not realizing what's actually going on he restrains her with his power to check on Logan. While trying to talk Laura down when she makes an attempt to explain, Hellverine gets back up and stabs him in the back.
  • Jerkass Has a Point: When Laura breaks off their relationship at the end of the babysitting arc of the Liu series, he gets angry and says some very hurtful things about her having no feelings in response. Many readers, including X-23's fans, agree that while he may have taken it too far he was also right considering how cold and distant Laura was to him throughout the arc.
  • Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: His attempts to help Laura when Val and Franklin Richards are kidnapped invariably just end up making things worse.
  • Psycho Ex-Boyfriend: He spends his brief appearance in Girl's Night Out spying on Laura from a distance while she's hanging out with Jubilee and Gambit. Jubilee pretty much treats him like this.
  • These Hands Have Killed: The first time Laura sees Julian during Misadventures in Babysitting it's strongly implied that this is part of why he's acting out the way he is. He outright makes an attempt to reach out to Laura for support hoping she would understand, but she rebuffs him.
  • Took a Level in Jerkass: When Julian first appears in The Killing Dream, he's still acting on the Character Development he received under Kyle and Yost during their stint on New X-Men, and he and Dust are her only friends who staunchly defend her participation in X-Force. However when he returns during Misadventures in Babysitting he's become much more angry and bitter over the way he's been treated since being forced to kill Karima, and when Laura breaks things off with him he loses his temper and says some very hurtful things.
  • Will They or Won't They?: At the beginning of her solo series, Laura is still struggling to understand what she feels for Julian, though he's much more certain about how he feels about her. Laura eventually decides to break things off with him.

    Gambit 

Remy LeBeau/Gambit

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Nationality: American

Species: Human mutant

Appeared in: X-23 Vol. 3

For general tropes about Gambit, see his page

The master thief and X-Man, Gambit accompanies Laura when she leaves on her journey of self-discovery following the events of Second Coming to help and support her through this difficult stage of her life. That Remy knows what it is to be looked at and judged for past actions gives him a unique perspective on Laura's situation. later arrives in Madripoor to help rescue her after she's recaptured by Kimura.


  • Affectionate Nickname: It's Gambit. His name for Laura is Petite.
  • Big Brother Mentor: As with Wolverine, Gambit uses his experience to help guide Laura, and their relationship evolves into this. It's ultimately his idea that the rest of the X-Men allow her to leave and find her own way, and although Laura already came to the decision herself, Gambit is the one that convinces Cyclops to let her go.
  • Big Damn Heroes: He works with Gabby and Tyger Tiger to subdue Laura while she's in a trigger scent-fueled rage, blasting her with one of his playing cards to stop her from killing Jessán.
  • Cool Old Guy: Laura comes to respect him immensely, and looks up to him as a mentor.
  • Dynamic Entry: Remy first appears in the last couple pages of issue 16, when Laura is attempting to kill Tyger Tiger under the effects of the trigger scent. He announces his presence with his Affectionate Nickname for Laura, before blasting her with one of his exploding cards to subdue her.
  • Edible Ammunition: Gambit blasts a hole in the side of Kimura's flying fortress. With a can of beans.
  • Fortune Teller: Remy learned to tell people's fortunes with playing cards from another thief he knew in "N'awlins." He uses his card deck to tell Laura's after she killed a man who murdered another girl.
  • Hypocrite: Gambit treats Hellion like dirt over his actions killing Karima, and along with Wolverine wants to keep him away from Laura. Even though Gambit has done far worse things than Julian and been forgiven for them.
  • Impossible Thief: Jokingly invoked. Gambit lampshades his reputation in a conversation with Storm, when she says she hopes he can make Laura smile:
    Gambit: I'm the best thief in the world, Chere. If I can't make her smile...I'll steal one for her.
  • Intergenerational Friendship: One of many of her elders Laura establishes a close friendship with.
  • Morality Pet: While he's letting Laura find her own way, Gambit nonetheless acts as this to help keep her centered and focused.

    The Stepford Cuckoos 

The Stepford Cuckoos

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Mindee, Phoebe, and Celeste

Nationality: American

Species: Human mutant clones

Appeared in: X-23 Vol. 4

Three identical telepaths, the Cuckoos (Mindee/Irma, Phoebe, and Celeste) were one of many products of the Weapon Plus program. Originally known as the Five-in-One, two of the sisters (Sophie and Esme) were killed, leaving them as the Three-in-One. They have since joined the X-Men, and much like Laura have struggled to put their past as a collective Human Weapon behind them.


  • Back for the Dead: Sophie is resurrected in issue 1, only to be immediately killed off by Esme to ensure her own survival in issue 2. However issue 4 reveals her psychic ghost is still hanging around, and is currently hitching a ride with Laura.
  • Back from the Dead: Esme and Sophie have been resurrected in new clone bodies.
  • Body Backup Drive: Esme and Sophie return in issue 1 using cloned bodies.
  • Cain and Abel: Sophie was from the start the most heroic of the Cuckoos, but is especially this for Esme. Esme was the most overtly villainous, particularly towards Sophie, who died because of her machinations. Esme kills her again in issue 1, since in their current fragile states only one is likely to survive and she insists that she deserves it most. Esme outright murders Sophie to ensure her own survival.
  • Came Back Wrong: Esme wasn't exactly right to begin with, having always been the most overtly villainous Cuckoo. However her multiple stints as a corpse has pretty much sent her off the deep end.
  • The Cassandra: In issue 2 Mindee/Irma appears to recognize something isn't right about the plan, but Celeste and Phoebe shout her down in their determination to maintain the now-Four-in-One.
  • Clone Degeneration: Esme and Sophie's new bodies are breaking down because their immune systems are unable to tolerate their psychic hive mind with their sisters.
  • Deader than Dead: According to Sophie, Esme is this after the Cuckoos band together to defeat her. Whether or not it sticks this time given the state of comic book death is another matter...
  • Impaled with Extreme Prejudice: Celeste on the end of Gabby's claw, after Sophie reveals herself and exposes Esme's treachery, and Esme-in-Gabby's body loses patience with her sisters. Fortunately it wasn't fatal.
  • It's All About Me: Esme makes it clear in her Motive Rant in issue 4 that the plot isn't so much about reuniting the Five-In-One as it is empowering herself.
  • Face–Heel Turn: The Three-In-One crosses the line in issue 2 by kidnapping Gabby as part of their plan. Only Mindee expresses any real reluctance.
  • Heel–Face Turn: Mindee in issue 5 once Sophie reveals what Esme has actually been doing, followed by Celeste and Phoebe when they realize they've been played.
  • Heel Realization: A preemptive one by Mindee in issue 1. She warns her sisters if they proceed with their plan they'll be the bad guys.
  • Jumping Off the Slippery Slope: If murdering her own sister didn't do it, then willfully stealing the body of an innocent 13 year-old girl was certainly this moment for Esme.
  • Killed Off for Real: Sophie and Esme. Again. With the former telling Laura she took measures to make sure Esme was Deader than Dead.
  • Manipulative Bitch: Esme spent the first arc pulling the strings of the other Cuckoos, and is the driving force of their plot. Only Mindee is hesitant to go through with it.
  • "Not So Different" Remark: Laura notes in issue 1 that she and the Cuckoos have similar pasts and backgrounds; all of them were clones made to be weapons, but turned out much different than their creators intended.
  • Our Ghosts Are Different: It's not entirely clear what Sophie and Esme actually are; whether they're the actual psychic ghosts of the original Sophie and Esme, or a consciousness constructed from the memories of Mindee, Phoebe, and Celeste. Sophie and Esme at least both seem to have their own memories, and Sophie's consciousness survived the death of her cloned body in issue 1, to hitch a ride with Laura.
  • Token Good Teammate:
    • Mindee is the only one who expresses any reluctance or concerns about what they're doing.
    • Sophie, who was always the most unambiguously good sister, plants her consciousness into Laura in order to stop Esme's plan.
  • Walking Spoiler: As can be seen from all the white space, it's very difficult to discuss the Cuckoos without spoiling a substantial part of the first arc.
  • You Have Outlived Your Usefulness: Esme killed Sophie because the latter's body was breaking down much faster than hers, and only one of them could be transferred into Gabby's body. She also begins to take this view of Mindee because of her wavering resolve and Heel Realization.

    Angel (O5) 

Warren Worthington III/Angel (O5)

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For general tropes about O5 Angel, see All-New X-Men.

The time-displaced teenage version of the X-Man Angel, Warren was brought forward in time, along with the rest of the Original Five X-Men, by the present-day Beast in an attempt to get through to Cyclops about his actions M-Day. Stranded in the present when Beast was unable to return them home, Warren first meets Laura when he and the rest of the O5 rescue her from the Purifiers in Miami, eventually falling in love with and entering into a relationship with her. He acts as Laura's Sidekick in the All-New Wolverine.


  • Affectionate Gesture to the Head: Straddles the line between CMOF and CMOH when Warren pats Laura on top of the head in relief she's ok after taking down the Sisters' Predator drone, since hugging isn't an option until she heals from her injuries. The CMOF comes in the form of Laura's bemusement over the gesture. The CMOH when she tells him she didn't mean he had to stop.
  • Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny!: Warren starts distracting himself rambling how he doesn't want to lose her if her plan goes wrong when they're flying to catch the Sisters' drone. She immediately warns him to get back on-track, and that now is not a good time to be having such a discussion.
  • Global Airship: This is pretty much the main purpose he serves in the first issue, serving as Laura's main mode of transportation, catching her when she jumps off the Eiffel Tower, Fastballing her onto a Predator drone in flight, and helping her flee the cops wanting to question her over the assassination attempt. Warren even lampshades it in issue 2 when Laura tries to apologize for using him as a flying taxi, quipping Wolverine would look ridiculous taking a cab, and that by having a boyfriend who can fly, she's perfectly justified exploiting that fact.
  • The Heart: Notably more emotional than Laura, to the point he balks at her intent to have him Fastball her at the Sisters' Predator because he doesn't want to lose her if the plan goes wrong.
  • Official Couple: When All-New Wolverine begins, he and Laura are still in the relationship they began during All-New X-Men.
  • One Head Taller: Depicted as being just about a head taller than Laura.
  • Schmuck Bait: After Laura runs off a couple mooks sent to tail her in issue 2, Warren remarks about how scary she can be. Laura asks if she scares Warren, too. Warren recognizes the question as a trap, and tells her there's no good way to answer the question. She compliments him on his instincts.
  • Sidekick: He tags along with Laura on her adventure in Paris.
  • Time-Travel Romance: Began dating Laura at the end of All-New X-Men Vol. 1, carrying over into All-New Wolverine.
  • Voice with an Internet Connection: Warren spends most of his time in issue 1 as a voice in Laura's earpiece. In fact it's not even revealed Warren is who she is talking to until he swoops in to pick her up and chase down the Sisters' drone in the last third of the issue.

    Jean Grey 

Jean Grey

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For general tropes about Jean, see her page.

Brought from the same time period as Laura's boyfriend, Angel, Jean arrives in Madripoor with Warren and Gambit to help Gabby rescue Laura from Kimura, and break her free of the conditioning that has helped to define her life.


  • The Shrink: Gabby calls her in to help break Laura of her conditioning to the trigger scent. She does so by probing Laura's mind during one of her rages, and speaking directly with her consciousness.

Other Superheroes

    Daredevil 

Matt Murdock / Daredevil

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Good Cop

Nationality: American

Species: Human mutate

Appeared in: X-23: Target X

For general tropes about Daredevil, see his page

When Captain America finally catches up with X-23 and brings her in, he calls upon Daredevil to assist him with the interrogation. However as the facts of Laura's tortured life come to light, he begins to doubt her guilt.


  • Good Cop/Bad Cop: He's the Good Cop. Subverted in that it's not an act. Matt is genuinely sympathetic to Laura's plight, and recognizes that the situation is much more complicated than Steve realizes.
  • Living Lie Detector: This is basically what Cap wants to use him for. All he wants is for Matt to confirm that Laura isn't lying about her identity so he can bring her in to S.H.I.E.L.D.
  • Reasonable Authority Figure: While Cap is driven almost to the point of obsession to bring Laura to justice, Matt takes the time to actually listen to what she's saying, and quickly realizes she's as much a victim as the people she killed. He immediately appoints himself her lawyer in an effort to protect her from what's sure to be a Kangaroo Court.
  • "Reason You Suck" Speech: Delivers one to Cap pointing out how he and S.H.I.E.L.D. won't be much different than the Facility of Steve continues his pursuit of Laura.
  • What the Hell, Hero?: Matt gets outright furious with Steve over the way he persecutes Laura, and his refusal to acknowledge S.H.I.E.L.D. will just use her, as well. Especially when he calls him out for endangering her only hope at healing from the damage done to her by taking her away from Logan.

    Captain America 

Steve Rogers / Captain America

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Bad Cop

Nationality: American

Species: Human mutate

Appeared in: X-23: Target X

For general tropes about Rogers, see his page

Legendary super soldier and long-time Avenger Captain America was one of the first responders on the scene of Laura's test mission. She escaped him by masquerading as the sole surviving victim, and his guilt over allowing her to escape drove him to personally lead the pursuit for her for the better part of a decade.

After a prophecy by Ulysses that Old Man Logan would kill Gabby, the legendary Avenger is sent to Laura's apartment to bring him into custody in hopes of preventing tragedy. Instead it brings him into direct conflict with Wolverine over the matter, who refuses to judge or punish someone for something they haven't done.


  • Bilingual Bonus: He calls Jonathan Gulo gulo, the scientific name for "wolverine" (as noted to Gabby by Laura and Logan).
  • Dramatic Irony: Unbeknownst to anyone, Cap here is actually a loyal servant of HYDRA, due to an alteration by a Cosmic Cube. As seen in other Civil War II tie-ins, he is deliberately escalating the conflict to undermine trust in superheroes.
  • Heel Realization: Murdock's lecture finally sinks in and Steve realizes he was right all along right as he's about to turn Laura in to S.H.I.E.L.D. Instead he takes a chance and lets her go.
  • Hero Antagonist: Of Target: X. There's no doubts that Steve is one of the true heroes of the Marvel Universe, but his determination to hunt down X-23 and bring her to justice casts him firmly as this.
  • Good Cop/Bad Cop: He's the bad cop when he and Murdock are interrogating Laura. Subverted in that it's not an act. Cap is hostile and belligerent towards Laura, and can only see her as a remorseless, merciless killer responsible for the deaths of hundreds. He even loses his temper with Matt when he tries to defend her and appoints himself her lawyer.
  • Inspector Javert: Cap was so guilt-ridden over allowing her escape following the Johnson assassination, he spent the better part of ten years personally trying to hunt her down. He was so blinded by his determination he couldn't even recognize at first that she was as much a victim as the people she killed.
  • Kangaroo Court: As far as Steve is concerned Laura is guilty. He refuses to listen to Matt's insistence that the situation isn't actually so cut and dried.
  • My Greatest Failure: He demonstrates shades of this after Laura slipped his grasp in the aftermath of her test mission, and subsequently blamed himself for all the killings she was subsequently able to carry out.
  • Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: Had Steve never been sent to Laura's apartment the chain of events leading to Logan accidentally stabbing Gabby would never have happened.
  • "Not So Different" Remark: Daredevil gives him a hell of a lecture about how he and S.H.I.E.L.D. aren't that far off from the Facility. S.H.I.E.L.D. very likely would have pressed Laura into service as their unstoppable assassin and secret agent, rather than see that justice was done for her killings, and Rogers's obsession with hunting her down made him no better, as it led to him directly threatening her only hope to escape what the Facility made her. See What the Hell, Hero?.
  • Reasonable Authority Figure: Tries to be one, but the nature of his mission immediately puts him at odds with Laura and Logan.
  • Well-Intentioned Extremist: Cap admits he doesn't completely agree with his orders, but has seen enough of Ulysses' visions that he believes following them is the right thing to do.
  • What the Hell, Hero?:
    • Murdock utterly tears him down over his determination to bring Laura to justice, pointing out Steve's blind faith in turning her over to S.H.I.E.L.D., that Laura was as much a victim as the people she killed, and that Steve was robbing her of her only hope for redemption and recovery.
    • Laura immediately calls out just how unlike him it is to punish someone for what they haven't actually done. She reams him even more in the aftermath of issue 12, pointing out that without his intervention, none of the conflict that followed would have even happened. She then makes it clear exactly what she thinks of the Second Superhero Civil War, and demands she be left out of it.
    • Even Gabby gets in on it, and also calls Steve out on how he's supposed to be about liberty and freedom for all, before mockingly suggesting it applies to everyone "except that guy. He could maybe, possibly do something bad."

    Squirrel Girl 

Doreen Green/Squirrel Girl

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For general tropes about Squirrel Girl, see her page.

College student with Squirrel DNA and Marvel's most powerful hero. She comes to Laura asking for help in tracking a squirrel who the latter had inadvertently attached a tracker to while also wrecking its home during a scuffle with Alchemax Genetics.


    Spider-Woman (Earth-65) 

Gwen Stacy/Spider-Woman

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For general tropes about Gwen, see her page.

The Spider-Woman of Earth-65 finds herself crossing paths with Wolverine when she's unceremoniously zapped not only into Laura's apartment, but into Laura's body. The two women must work together to determine who has done this to them and why, and reverse it before their consciousnesses are forcibly returned to their own dimensions and lost forever.


  • Brought Down to Normal: While not normal per se, Gwen is heavily reliant on her powers, to the point Laura has to do all the heavy lifting in the final battle against Red Hornet. Especially after Gwen succeeds in popping Laura's claws into her own face.
  • Epic Fail: Laura adjusts relatively well to Gwen's powers. Gwen...manages to snikt herself in the face the one time she pops Laura's claws.
  • Good Thing You Can Heal: Well, good thing Laura can heal. While stuck in her body, Gwen jumps out of a window from several stores up and face-plants into a car, and then snikts herself in the face when trying to pop Laura's claws.
  • Hyper-Competent Sidekick: The Reed Richards of her dimension proves to be one to Gwen. When Laura finds herself trapped in Gwen's universe and body, he immediately turns up to explain everything, realizes exactly who he's actually talking to, and gets Laura back to her own reality to find Gwen.
  • Invisible to Normals: Gwen has a mental projection of Spider-Ham rattling around her head, who pops up to make a few sarcastic remarks. Neither Gabby nor Laura can see him, yet for some reason Jonathan apparently can.
  • What the Hell, Hero?: She gives Laura an earful over being careless with her much less durable body; Laura's may be able to heal from virtually anything, but Gwen's is more breakable.

    The Wasp 

Janet van Dyne/The Wasp

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For general tropes about the Wasp, see her page.

One of the founding members of the Avengers, Janet van Dyne disappeared after the events of AXIS, when she was kidnapped by Havok as part of his attempt to escape. She resurfaces in All-New Wolverine #5 to assist Laura in her efforts to help the Sisters.


  • Retired Badass: Jan has apparently withdrawn from the superhero life by the time Laura meets up with her. See Unexpected Character below.
  • Seen It All: On the scale of weird shit Jan has seen? Wolverine and her three clones being magically teleported into one of Hank's old labs to steal an Ant-Man suit to fight nanomachines ranks as a mere "2."
  • Shock and Awe: Jan announces her presence in the lab when Laura and the Sisters first arrive by hitting Bellona with an electric shock to stop her from shooting up the place while trying to release an Ant-Man suit for their use. She later uses it to subdue Captain Mooney after he attacks the lab in his attempt to kill the Sisters.
  • Shrink Ray: A problem with her Pym Particles becomes a plot point in "Old Woman Laura": Jan is stuck in her shrunk form, leading to her being presumed dead by many of the other heroes, and if she were to try to return to her normal size it would tear her body apart.
  • Unexpected Character:
    • Jan's appearance in All-New Wolverine came as a shock when announced in solicits not only because she's never had anything to do with Laura before, but because she's been missing altogether from the books since Secret Wars. She did appear in the Rage of Ultron graphic novel and the Ant-Man annual, however those books were published before Secret Wars and take place after but it's unclear where these two books fit on the timeline.
    • In-Universe: Janet was presumed dead by the future depicted in "Old Woman Laura," and her presence on the mission to assassinate Doom catches everyone but Hill (who is the one that brought her along) by surprise.

    Hawkeye II 

Kate Bishop/Hawkeye

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For general tropes about Kate, see her page.

Kate is the one and only Hawkeye in the future of "Old Woman Laura." She accompanies Laura on her mission to Latveria, after Gabby tips her off.


  • Abnormal Ammo: Played with. The Doom Dome's suppression of foreign technology has apparently rendered her usual assortment of Trick Arrows useless. However she (unknowingly) made use of a bullet loaded with Janet Van Dyne.
  • Alternate Universe: She's the Kate of "Old Woman Laura's" alternate future, in which the heroes defeated the villain uprising.
  • Fashionable Asymmetry: Her costume consists of a purple bodysuit that bares the entirety of her right arm and shoulder.
  • Improbable Aiming Skills: Natch. Lampshaded with indignation when Laura and Hill squabble over Hill intending to take a difficult shot herself, despite being down an eye once her cybernetics stop working. Kate proceeds to headshot a Doombot, in-flight, from a distance of at least a couple miles.

    Maria Hill 

Director Maria Hill

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For general tropes about Maria Hill, see her page.

The current director of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Laura contacted her with the information needed for them to take care of arresting Chandler and finishing the cleanup of Alchemax Genetics. Maria later approaches Wolverine with a riddle of her own, that she needs her unique abilities to unravel after an arms bust goes...weird.


  • Abnormal Ammo: Maria has a special bullet in "Old Woman Laura" that actually contains the Wasp.
  • Big Brother Is Watching You: Hill having Laura's number isn't surprising, consider Laura called her in #6 to clean up Alchemax Genetics and turn over the confiscated files she recovered from their servers. Slightly more disconcerting is that not only can she answer Laura's phone for her when Laura refuses to do so herself, but even sets it to speaker! Oh, and she also arranges to pay for Laura and Gabby's Chinese food while trying to butter them up. She was also surreptitiously tracking Old Man Logan while on a job for her, despite his demands for her to back off.
  • Captain Crash: Hill bangs up yet another helicarrier in issue 8. This one had an unfortunate run-in with Fin Fang Foom. Hopefully giant rampaging lizards are covered by her insurance premiums.
  • Crazy-Prepared: Not only do all of her agents have (virtually) indestructible trackers implanted in their bodies, but she also has trackers and remotely-activated self destructs installed on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s jet packs.
  • Eye Scream: While she still has both eyes in "Old Woman Laura's" alternate future, she sports a ragged scar across and encircling her left eye socket.
  • The Handler: Laura's initial S.H.I.E.L.D. liaison. However after the events of Civil War II it's decided their relationship is too contentious.
  • Killed Off for Real: She's the first of Laura's team to be killed infiltrating Latveria in "Old Woman Laura."
  • Mission Control: Serves as one to Cap in issue 11.
  • Mysterious Informant: When Laura contacts her at the end of issue 6, she's deliberately evasive when Hill demands how she got her number in the first place, considering only a handful of people has it, one of whom is dead. Laura cryptically answers "The dead one gave it to me," while relaying her message. It's enough information for Hill to put two and two together and identify the caller.
  • Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: She's the one who dispatches Cap to Laura's apartment to bring Logan in. When Logan and Gabby later try to flee using S.H.I.E.L.D. jetpacks, she uses a remote detonator to bring Logan down. Both events lead directly into Ulysses' vision coming to pass when Logan accidentally stabs Gabby in the resulting rage.
  • Not So Above It All: Apparently, she has nothing against having a number twenty-five with chicken. Its not much, but it does very mildly humanize her.
  • Precrime Arrest: Ulysses has a vision that Logan will kill Gabby in the future. Maria and Captain Marvel dispatch Captain America and a squad of S.H.I.E.L.D. troops to apprehend him before it can happen.
  • Tracking Chip: All of Hill's agents in #8 were implanted with these, which should have been indestructible. The fact they've gone silent doesn't bode well for them. Especially as it turns out they ended up as a late-night snack for Fin Fang Foom.
  • Voice with an Internet Connection: Most of her appearance in issue 11 is feeding Cap instructions and intelligence through his earpiece. Unfortunately, Logan and Laura's enhanced hearing allows them to hear her, as well.

    Nick Fury Jr. 

Nick Fury, Jr.

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The son of the legendary Nick Fury, Fury is part of the S.H.I.E.L.D. response team investigating when Daylesville falls silent. He later becomes Laura's S.H.I.E.L.D. liaison following the Roosevelt Island crisis.


  • The Handler: Fury replaces Maria Hill as Laura's liaison, as it's determined that her working relationship with Hill was compromised after the events of Civil War.
  • Hero Antagonist: Although one of the good guys (for a given value of "good" considering he works for S.H.I.E.L.D.) he's still detaining Laura for the murder of Daylesville's entire population.
  • Mission Control:
    • Fury commands the helicarrier squadron providing overwatch of Roosevelt Island during the "Immune" arc, and more or less fills this role for Laura, Ironheart, and other boots on the ground.
    • After the events of "Immune" he becomes Laura's S.H.I.E.L.D. liaison.
  • Obstructive Bureaucrat: Is actually hampered by them when the true culprits in the Daylesville Massacre escape into Madripoor airspace, as he's legally unable to pursue them. This then turns him into one, as Laura is forced to escape so she can continue the pursuit herself.
  • Reasonable Authority Figure:
    • "Enemy of the State II": Fury takes Laura at her word and immediately follows up on her claim when she warns him that aircraft bombed the town of Daylesville with trigger scent, which would at least mitigate her culpability. He also berates Agent Bennett's Police Brutality when they initially apprehend her, and when she argues against his decision to stand down when the aircraft escape towards Madripoor.
    • "Immune": Fury is under orders to raze Roosevelt Island to the ground. However rather than kill 10,000 innocent people out of hand, he agrees to hold off as long as he can to give her time to resolve the issue.

    Doctor Strange 

Stephen Strange/Doctor Strange

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For general tropes about Dr. Strange, see his page.

The Sorcerer Supreme of Earth, Stephen Strange is an Avenger and former ally of Logan. Laura turns to him in hopes of curing the Sisters both of their inability to feel pain, and the modifications made by Alchemax that are slowly killing them.


  • Animate Inanimate Object: The cupboard in his living room doesn't move per se, but Bellona insists it keeps winking at her. She finally gets fed up and shoots it, breaking the seal on the doom dimension enclosed within and unleashing a monster on New York.
  • Bizarrchitecture: The Sanctum Sanctorum, natch. Gabby is both flabbergasted and unnerved by it, such as rain falling outside one window but none of the others. To say nothing of the cupboard that's really a portal to doom in his living room. It apparently tries to flirt with Bellona.
  • Dressed to Heal: When the good Doctor teleports himself, Laura, and the Sisters to New York Hospital he's still dressed in his Sorcerer Supreme robes. A quick snap of his fingers and he's in a shirt, tie, and labcoat.
  • Hellgate: He has one in his living room. Gabby immediately calls him out on it and asks why he doesn't just hang paintings instead.
  • Labcoat of Science and Medicine: See Dressed to Heal above.
  • Secret Test of Character: He tests all of the girls with the Eye of Agamotto to determine whether they're deserving of help. Though Gabby passes with flying colors, he nonetheless expresses his doubts about the others (particularly Bellona) until Laura asks him to use it on her, and he sees for himself everything she has been through.
  • Super Doc: Strange is, by training, a surgeon. Yet he also operates the MRI machine to examine Zelda.
  • Teleportation: Brings himself, Laura, and the Sisters to the hospital via teleportation, and later 'ports them to one of Hank Pym's labs.
  • Unexpected Character: Strange isn't normally someone you would expect Laura to have a team-up with, given that she's had so few interactions outside the X-books.
  • Who You Gonna Call?: Subverted. The good doctor specializes in occult threats, and that's why other heroes normally turn to him for help. However in her own words, Laura has actually come for the doctor, not the strange.

Others

    Rachel and Henry Sutter 

Rachel and Henry Sutter

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Rachel and Henry are the wife and son, respectively, of Martin Sutter. Rachel carried out an affair with Rice, who it turns out is the actual father of Henry.


  • Domestic Abuse: When Rachel tells Rice that their affair has led to pregnancy and she wants to confess to Sutter, Rice throws her against a wall and physically threatens her. When she later decides to tell the truth, he sends X-23 to kill her.
  • Improbable Infant Survival: When X-23 is sent to kill Martin Sutter and his family, she disobeys her orders and spares Henry's life. This act later convinces Sarah that X-23 hasn't completely lost her humanity.
  • Shout-Out: Henry carries around an Spider-Man action figure at one point.
  • Sexy Secretary: Rachel isn't just Sutter's wife, but also performs secretarial duties for his project.
  • Who's Your Daddy?: It's made clear right from the beginning that Martin Sutter's wife, Rachel, knows that she is pregnant with Rice's son, but Rice violently forces her to agree not to reveal this to Sutter. Sutter subsequently raises the boy, Henry, as his own, ignorant of the truth. It doesn't end well when Rachel decides to confess. Before she can do so Rice unleashes X-23 on the family to silence her, eliminate the boy, and secure his control over the project. Martin and Rachel are killed, but X-23 can't bring herself to murder Henry and spares him
  • You Have Outlived Your Usefulness: Rice pulls this on Rachel, as well. When Rachel insists it's time to tell Sutter the truth about their affair, Rice sends X-23 to silence her and kill their son to destroy the evidence. Conveniently, Rice manipulates the situation to also arrange Sutter to officially turn over control of the project to him, allowing him to eliminate all three at once. Foiled when X-23 spares Henry, though Martin and Rachel are both killed.

JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
He/Him
#314: Sep 29th 2023 at 5:23:30 PM

Delete Logan, no need to have his own folder on a page that will also cover his supporting cast. Keep the Sutters, no reason to take them out. Not sure on the rest.

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#315: Sep 29th 2023 at 5:26:12 PM

The rest are very plot specific too Laura’s books. I’m definitely not keeping them on that page but the question is whether to take the entries and add them to the respective pages or delete them as a whole

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#316: Sep 29th 2023 at 9:57:55 PM

[up]Try and keep them if you can. Merge them onto their respective work pages.


I created a sandbox for J. Jonah Jameson here. He was very close to 40K so I just did a bit of crosswicking.

I've also been going through the Spider-Man characters sub-pages and a lot of them are really short. I'm thinking that Spider-Man: Family, Spider-Man: Clones, Spider-Man: Midtown High, Spider-Man: Empire State University, and Spider-Man: Daily Bugle be merged into Spider-Man: Supporting Characters. I'm not sure what to do about Spider-Man: Neutral Characters or Spider-Man: Love Interests though. I think I can get Gwen Stacy to 40K, then the page can be merged into supporting characters also. Thoughts?

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#317: Sep 29th 2023 at 10:14:03 PM

[up] My vote is to add them to their respective pages but — if possible — specify where they're from.

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#318: Sep 30th 2023 at 9:18:10 AM

[up][up]I checked out those pages and I agree.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#320: Sep 30th 2023 at 2:39:05 PM

So should I go for it? Spider-Man's a big property and I want to make sure I have the proper backing before I do anything?

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#321: Sep 30th 2023 at 2:46:44 PM

For the reworked Venomverse page, should it be organized thusly?

Venoms & Allied Symbiotes

The Resistance

    Venom (Earth-616) 

Please see the Venom: Eddie Brock and Venom: The Symbiote pages for more information.

    Captain Venom 

    Venomized Doctor Strange 

    Venomized Wolverine 

    Venomized Logan 

    Symbiote Spider-Man 

    Venomized Black Panther (T'Challa) 

    Venompool/Poison Deadpool 

     Venomized Rocket 

    Host Rider 

    Ant-Venom 

    Venomized Spinnerett 

    Mania 

    Venomized Doctor Doom 

    Venomized Punisher 

    Carnage 

Symbiote Squad

    Agent Venom (Earth-1051) 

    Virus 

    Spider-Man 

Spider-Man/Venom (Eddie Brock)]]

    Symbiote Black Cat 

    Black-Fang 

    Venom: Space Knight 

    Madam Venom 

    Venom Noir 

    Necroko 

    Unit- 1 

    Agent Spider-Man 

    Agent Deadpool 

    Agent Hawkeye 

    Dreamstone Venom 

    Chaos Engine 

    Silence 

    Asgardia 

    Anti-Carnage 

Antagonists

Poison Hive

    Poison Hulk 

    Poison Doctor Octopus 

    Poison Fin Fang Foom 

    Poison Doctor Doom 

    Poison Thanos 

    Poison Spider-Man 

    Poison Ghost Rider 

    Poison Carnage 

    Poison Queen 

Other

    Carnage (Earth-616) 
Please see Marvel Comics: Carnage for more information.

    King-Pain 

    Cletus Kasady 

    Shriek 

    Knull 

Supporting Characters

Unaffiliated Symbiotes

    Venomized Black Panther (Ngozi) 

    Venomized Gwenpool 

    Venom 1602 

    Venom Head 

    President Venom 

    Clown Venom 

    Puppy Venom 

    Venomized Bodega Bandit 

    Symbiote Six 

    Mania 

    Venoman-Thing 

Edited by Arawn999 on Sep 30th 2023 at 2:47:26 AM

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#323: Sep 30th 2023 at 10:16:37 PM

[up] I didn't get a reply on whether or not it was OK to Sandbox it to workshop things.

JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
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#324: Oct 1st 2023 at 6:39:13 PM

[up]Go ahead I'd say, it's what sandboxes are used for.

Edited by JDMA12 on Oct 1st 2023 at 10:39:20 AM

JDMA12 He/Him from the 31st Century (Troper in training)
He/Him
#325: Oct 1st 2023 at 8:14:30 PM

I've created Sandbox.Ultimate Universe 2023 to cover both the one-shot we got preview pages of, and the universe in general. Pretty barebones because ofc, it's only 4 textless preview pages and a cover we got, plus I haven't read Ultimate Invasion yet, so can't gage much context just from third-hand knowledge. Will try to add more when I finish it, and anyone who can add more tropes is free to contribute. Will also probably create a sandbox for the character page when I finish UU, as the characters themselves already appear there so it's probably easier.


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