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Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#301: Aug 27th 2023 at 12:16:43 PM

@dcutter Sorry, I was too quick to act and did not look for the humour mode. About there being no way to lose a duel. Well, perhaps I was too harsh. The fact that it ended with her being impaled left a bad impression. Thought on the fact that she was impaled alone, I'm willing to argue that she lost badly. I mean, that is no scratch, without medical intervention she would have died. I'm going to rewatch it.

Edited by Risa123 on Aug 27th 2023 at 9:17:32 PM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#302: Aug 27th 2023 at 12:22:19 PM

[up] no worries.

and yeah ending a fight with a lightsaber through the chest is definitely a bad thing I do not deny it. basically the other options are losing limbs or something that's instant death.

it was episode 1 though. She's got six episodes to improve under Ahsoka's train plus she's now armoured up. I expect a rematch to show how much she's improved is inevitable.

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#303: Aug 27th 2023 at 12:32:47 PM

[up] So I rewatched the duel and I have to admit that my impression was very much coloured by the outcome here. For someone who did not complete her training and presumably did not touch her lightsaber for quite some time, she put a decent fight. Sure, Shin did very much dominate the whole situation, but she is the equivalent of senior padawan in terms of training. Assuming she is the same age as the actress, some Jedi were probably even knights by 24. It was not very good, but not terrible either, I guess.

Edited by Risa123 on Aug 27th 2023 at 9:34:27 PM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#304: Aug 27th 2023 at 1:07:03 PM

Considering Sabine literally can't reach into the Force, she did pretty well.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Aug 27th 2023 at 10:07:18 AM

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Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#305: Aug 27th 2023 at 1:27:38 PM

[up] True, but I should note that non-force sensitives putting up a fight or even beating a force sensitive is a relatively common thing is SW. That is actually something I like about the franchise. Star War's take on superpowers results in these people having an advantage, but they are by no means invincible.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#306: Aug 27th 2023 at 1:31:19 PM

She always gonna lose but she put up a decent effort.

Well now that she has the armor back she is more of a threat.

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#307: Aug 27th 2023 at 2:15:08 PM

So interesting question I want to know after seeing it asked online a few places.

I'm liking the show but I grew up on clone wars and rebels so this stuff.

Would a person going in totally blind know what's going on ?

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#308: Aug 27th 2023 at 2:20:03 PM

I wouldn't say I went in totally blind because I've read star wars threads online etc so I know who the principle characters are and basically what their deal is but I've never seen an episode of any Star Wars TV show before.

Following what's going on plotwise is easy, feeling involved or attached to Ahsoka and the others is a different matter.

Edited by dcutter2 on Aug 27th 2023 at 10:20:23 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#309: Aug 27th 2023 at 2:37:06 PM

NVM

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 27th 2023 at 2:37:20 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#310: Aug 27th 2023 at 4:39:08 PM

I feel like it's perfectly easy to understand what's happening, however some characters get better reintroductions than others to invest you.

I'm certain that the show is going to remedy that later by delving into back stories as trailers have shown we're getting flash backs.

To go into more detail, Sabine (who is the second lead) gets a really fleshed out re-introduction, but Ashoka, who is the title character, gets to look cool but is not presented with as strong a character hook (yet).

The villains are new to this show so they get a great introduction.

The pair of people the goodies and baddies are looking for in tandem aren't really introduced, but they don't need to be as at this point they're just Mac Guffins.

If you've seen some of the first six Star Wars Films you should be good.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#311: Aug 27th 2023 at 6:38:42 PM

It's funny how Ahsoka says she's no longer a Jedi but still pretty much acts like on.

Very serene and restrained to the point of appearing unemotional and now the implication that she was a fairly rigid humorless teacher to Sabine.

There is very little difference between how she acts now to the old Order.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#312: Aug 27th 2023 at 6:48:29 PM

She probably doesn't consider herself a Jedi due to how things went when she left.

But she still embodies the best of them ironically enough. She just doesn't consider herself an official Jedi.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#313: Aug 27th 2023 at 7:02:43 PM

Yeah but amusingly she also adopted all their old habits.

There's little functional difference between how she is now and the stuffy old masters of the old order she left.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 27th 2023 at 7:02:52 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#314: Aug 27th 2023 at 10:24:38 PM

I wonder if we're going to see Kallus.

Like, when it comes to the gang I think it's a good shot we're going to see Zeb (it'd be a total waste of them making a whole great character model for him for Mando and not use it in the Rebels sequel series). Ezra's the main MacGuffin of the series, of course, and we might see Kanan in a flashback (especially related to his son) or see that giant Loth Wolf that may or may not be an extension of his departed consciousness, getting the core gang out of the way.

But Kallus is in this weird spot of being one of the gang, and being a part of their lives from the beginning, but not one of the original gang and only actually joining them towards the end, so who knows if he'll make an appearance in this particular reunion special.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 28th 2023 at 8:58:39 AM

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#315: Aug 27th 2023 at 11:14:31 PM

Didn't Kallus tag along with Zeb after the events of Rebels? Fairly sure the two of them went off to look for other Lasat/fuel the shippers. If we get one, we could get a package deal.

That said it would be interesting if he did come back. We've had lots of "Imperials undermining the Republic" stuff, having an Imp who actually genuinely did change sides (for moral reasons not pragmatism) might help make that more interesting.

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EmperorGeode from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
#316: Aug 27th 2023 at 11:51:45 PM

We actually see that Zeb joined New Republic military in Mandalorian, so Kallus isn’t out of question.

Hopefully they keep his sideburns.

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#317: Aug 28th 2023 at 6:22:54 PM

I just realized, with all the Rebels elements back. The Disney era has been long enough that Disney is now in a position where they can use nostalgia and fanservice for their own stuff. As now there are lots of fans who have grown up with this era and such.

IDK if that sounds cynical or not, using nostalgia and such is not inherently bad,it is just an observation I made that they are no longer limited to just using the content from before their reign for that.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#318: Aug 29th 2023 at 9:53:42 AM

Regarding the Captain's "trap"... yeah, I'm of the mind that the show was trying to show him as smart and just got hit with a twist in that they were Dark Jedi, but that it really failed him by making him just look incompetent. I totally get him letting them onto his ship. They're a threat to the New Republic and he sees it as his duty to stop them. As Mildly Military as SW is, this kinda thing genuinely could be his job. And frankly, drawing them onto his ship is far safer than trying to board theirs.

He just, you know. Sucked at laying his trap. His crew was small, they weren't at the ready, and the Captain himself was right in the line of fire. Even if they were just "some guys with a gun" then the Captain guaranteed that if they decided to try to shoot their way out, they'd at least take down some of his crew, if not himself. Assuming that they were completely harmless is a baffling choice.

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Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#319: Aug 29th 2023 at 11:05:04 AM

[up] About him being in line of fire. Well, as I have repeatedly said, he was overconfident. He wanted to arrest them personally out of desire for glory and/or excitement. Concerning the excitement. You know, it is possible that he was bored running errands and wanted to have some "fun". He was old, so he fought in the war and become bored after it ended. So he wanted to recapture his glory days, and it ended badly for him. That is my theory now, at least.

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#320: Aug 29th 2023 at 11:33:14 AM

[up]The captain making his decision based on a desire for glory or excitement could easily been explained with one line of dialogue, but inside they leaned into him realizing the obvious trap is a trap, like it was some kind of feat of deduction.

I've been reading some far out theories regarding Marrok. Which makes sense given he is completely covered and never speaks. The most farfetched so far is he is really Ezra.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#321: Aug 29th 2023 at 12:12:37 PM

Bariss or Ezra are the prevailing theories.

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EmperorGeode from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
#322: Aug 29th 2023 at 12:18:43 PM

There is also Eight Brother because of shape of armor. Thought I personally Lean on him being new character.

Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#323: Aug 29th 2023 at 12:40:26 PM

[up][up] I guess it is not what they were going for, but I for me it works well as a headcanon since there is nothing to contradict it.

Edited by Risa123 on Aug 29th 2023 at 9:40:56 PM

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#324: Aug 29th 2023 at 12:45:09 PM

Isn't the Eighth Brother quite dead?

Also, Rebels had a problem with the Inquisitors being diminishing threats that I'd really hope they don't duplicate here. Making this seemingly menacing Inquisitor be the return of a character whose defeat was nothing short of comical would severely undermine him to anyone that recognizes him.

But yeah. The narrative was trying to portray the Captain as shrewd, but undone by something that he couldn't possibly have foreseen. Which is undermined by the fact that his preparations were terrible. Frankly, he's lucky that the Dark Jedi were so curb-stompy, at least he has an excuse. If they had been run of the mill smugglers and took out half his security detail because he did a terrible job of launching his ambush, I don't think anyone would be defending him.

It kinda reminds me of the Leia forest chase in Kenobi. Leia avoiding the kidnappers as long as she did was meant to show her as being capable and quick-witted, but it really just made the kidnappers look incompetent for being so bad at their job.

Edited by Larkmarn on Aug 29th 2023 at 3:49:32 PM

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#325: Aug 29th 2023 at 12:48:47 PM

He has fallen of a great distance, which really isn’t that fatal in Star Wars. [lol]

I also don’t see how it would dissmish Marrok, it would simply mean he returned and Took a Level in Badass.


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