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  • Remove misuse from on-page examples and move wicks that fit the retooled definition (characters obsessed with rules and order) and delete others that don't fit existing tropes. References to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (but not usage as a trope) can be directed to the new Useful Notes page.

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Note: This thread was proposed by ~mightymewtron, who gave others permission to make the thread.

Super OCD suffers from an unclear name. The description seems to be about stereotypical depictions of OCD, but the majority of usage (as seen on Super OCD Wick Check) simply refers to characters obsessed with order, cleanliness (which may be redundant with Neat Freak), and/or following rules, regardless of whether they're mentioned to have OCD. There is also some usage for OCD in general regardless of whether it fits a stereotype, which is not a trope on its own (not helped that OCD is a redirect to the trope). If it's about the general obsessive behavior and not the OCD stereotypes, then the name's not only misleading, but potentially offensive and misleading about the actual disorder.

The definition should be clearly retooled for characters obsessed with rules and order (with a name like Obsessively Organized), with the OCD stereotype simply being one part of that as opposed to the basis of the article. Those obsessed with cleanliness may belong better at Neat Freak. For the information about OCD itself, we could make UsefulNotes.Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and go more in-depth about stereotypes versus reality there, as well as categorize depictions of OCD in media.

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Trope: Super OCD

Wick count: 1328 wicks

Laconic: "A person obsessed with order, symmetry and following certain patterns of behaviour."

Super OCD has an unclear name that may be encouraging misuse. It seems to be split between two usages: one about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder stereotypes, and another about extreme desire for order regardless of whether OCD is brought up. It is also sometimes used to refer to any instance of a character fitting OCD, even if it doesn't fit the stereotype. It's unclear which of these descriptions is the main intention, as the description seems to describe OCD stereotypes while the usage leans more towards broad obsession with organization.

Goal: 50 wicks. Potholes bolded. First example taken from each page.

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    Stereotypical OCD depictions (4/50) 
  1. Neat Freak: This is stereotypical behavior for any character with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).
  2. Series.Crank Yankers: The aptly-named OCD Ken, who requests bizarre things from his callers such as pushing certain buttons on the phone.
  3. Characters.With Pearl And Ruby Glowing The Palace Part Three: Averted hard. He has an OCD diagnosis, but it's not the stereotypical neat-freak manifestation; he's suffering from "pedophile OCD", in which the obsessive fear is that he's going to molest or otherwise harm a child and the compulsion involves avoiding children or punishing himself for thinking the obsessive thoughts. One of the authors has dealt with this for real. This is listed here because it's described as an aversion, taking the stance that the trope is about stereotypical OCD.
  4. YMMV.The Powerpuff Girls 2016: The girls' personalities also came under fire. Some like the fact that they are a tad more mature than their original incarnations. They also like that the girls bicker at a more frequent basis, like any siblings would. Others feel that the writers have flanderized some of their more negative aspects: Buttercup's thirst for action, Bubbles' girlishness, and Blossom's need for order to the point where it seems like she has Super OCD. The "she has" wording sounds like it's treating the trope as the exaggerated disorder.

    Obsessed with order/cleanliness, with no mention of OCD (32/50) 
  1. MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.Tropes A To B: To an extent for Twilight Sparkle - her high education is considered something of a second ability, however her intricacies also lead her to be Super OCD and neurotic to extremes on occasion, not to mention her diligence to education kept her isolated and socially inept for most of her early life.
  2. Recap.Littlest Pet Shop 2012 S 3 E 24 In The Loop: Goes overboard with it in Act 1 and initially thinks the solution to getting out of the time loop is to be even more cautious.
  3. WMG.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Secondary Characters: Ms. Super OCD, looking after babies, who are inherently chaotic? This I want to see! About Twilight, so it's the same context as the first listed wick in this folder.
  4. Recap.The Angry Beavers E 7 Boxtop Beavers: Norb comes off this way the way he lines up his cereal boxes, eats his cereal, cuts and stacks his boxtops...
  5. Odd Job Gods: One interesting aspect of Elder Scrolls gods is that they seem to have overlapping roles and spheres, but that within each of these overlapping spheres they have very, very specific areas of responsibility. For example, Mara and Dibella are both gods of love, but they handle very specific aspects of love, with Mara being the goddess of affection and union between two beings, while Dibella is associated with passionate love and creativity. Similarly, Jyggalag and Peryite are both gods of order, but Peryite is the god of menial tasks and day-to-day activities (essentially the god of middle managers) while Jyggalag is a god of obsessive ordering and prediction of all things.
  6. Characters.Soul Eater Troubled Souls Class Crescent Moon: His love for symmetry, of course, but it is explored. During Kid’s fight with his shadow, the latter says this makes Kid “too unique” and that such a radical difference will bring about insurrection and fighting among his peers and underlings. It also aptly demonstrates that Kid, for all his prodigal talents, will waver against very dangerous foes if they show that symmetry he loves so deeply.
  7. Recap.Sponge Bob Square Pants S 8 E 19 Karen 20 In Spongeiac: Serious Business: Mr. Krabs is furious with SpongeBob for using less than a hundredth of a percent more mustard than he should, as it will cause him to go bankrupt in just over four hundred years.
  8. Characters.Citadel Of The Heart Grandis: Oddly enough, Grandis does seem to call the shots a lot more often when he's in a role of leadership not of the Ultimorian Deities; why he's this inconsistent has yet to be cleared up, but it's already been established he's already an Oxymoronic Being due to the fact he's The Pig-Pen despite having a Super OCD attitude towards everything not related to himself. Seems to be more about cleanliness than order but I think that's also covered by the trope.
  9. Funny.The New Adventures Of Invader Zim: Ying gives a heartfelt speech about why he's so loyal to Nyx… and then GIR kills the mood by walking in with his pig friend, the two proceeding to make a mess all over the base. Ying, who just cleaned the base, gives an Eye Twitch.
  10. Memes.Ed Edd N Eddy: Messy, messy, messy...Explanation 
  11. VideoGame.Sabres Of Infinity: Sergeant Hernandes seems to be quite neurotic about rigidly following all the rules at all times, and appears to have an obsession with insignificant details, such as correcting minuscule imperfections in your men's uniforms.
  12. Screw the Rules, It's the Apocalypse!: Big Hero 6 has a lesser-scale moment, with the party escaping the Yokai. Wasabi drives in compliance with the traffic regulations... to the point he stops at a red traffic light, only to get chewed out by GoGo (who proceeds to take over the steering wheel shortly afterwards): More about following rules than keeping things neat but I think that still counts?
  13. Recap.HTF Wishy Washy: When Petunia sees a bottle not facing the right way, she panics before turning it.
  14. TheComicallySerious.Western Animation: Twilight Sparkle much of the time, who often displays a no-nonsense attitude to things, and is a Neat Freak and Workaholic rolled into one. She is also dorky and neurotic, due to both her wackier friends' antics or her Super OCD nature grating on her sanity.
  15. Characters.Kemono Friends: She just can't commit herself to building the real thing without fear of mistakes.
  16. JerkWithAHeartOfGold.Anime And Manga: Captain Levi from is utterly stone-faced and rude to his subordinates, has the Face of a Thug, and is often thought of by both characters in-universe and fans as callous. He's actually incredibly compassionate and cares about his troops, even willing to ignore his Super OCD to take the hand of a bloodied and dying soldier and reassure him in his last moments.
  17. WebAnimation.Eddie At The LMV: The residents of Cleaner Close in the Daz commercials either have Super OCD or are "Double D-like neat freaks", as Eddie puts it.
  18. YMMV.Littlest Pet Shop 2012 S 4 E 4 Senior Day: Fridge Logic: Jerry's mention of eating dinner at exact moments and insistence on clean pillowsheets hints that Russell may have inherited some of his Super OCD from Jerry.
  19. YMMV.The Hour: Early in Season Two, Lix tells Randall to stay calm when she tells him bad news, and not to start rearranging his desk. At the time, this is a bit of Lix's typical Deadpan Snarkery about his Super OCD, but when they find out that their daughter (who they've never seen and Randall spent years trying to track down,) died in an air raid we see that Randall does in fact try to cope with extreme stress by rearranging his desk, and it's not funny. At all.
  20. Thanks for the Mammary: In Soul Eater, while Death the Kid is complaining about how everything around him is asymmetrical, he grabs Liz and Patti's breasts and screams, "Even your boobs are different sizes!" Liz angrily punches him out.
  21. Characters.Gremlins Humans: Implied by some of his behavior, such as his obsessive desire for orderliness and strict adherence to rules and schedules. At the end of the film, he reluctantly complies to Clamps' suggestion to take a vacation, after which Forster hangs up the phone in annoyance. And in one deleted scene, he's seen meticulously arranging every single little thing on his desk to the centimeter. The use of "implied" may suggest the troper thought this trope was about explicit mentions of OCD, however, as this is just the "obsessed with order" interpretation of the trope played straight.
  22. Characters.Warhammer 40000 Chaos Gods: Plaguebearers, who go about counting Nurgle's plagues and the numbers of the infected, droning on in a Creepy Monotone as they tally the numbers on a battlefield. While they can't actually finish their counts, this apparently comes from some latent desire for order in the inherent disorder that is Chaos, or symbolic that Nurgle's ultimate goal will ultimately include the downfall of Chaos as the universe is reborn into something else.
  23. TropersDoIt.On Live Action TV: Emma does it cleanly.
  24. Characters.Hell Girl Ai Enma: When she returns to the twilight realm after fully reincarnating in Mitsuganae, she is slightly uncomfortable about the placement of her computer, citing its position is slightly off the desk from where it was previously.
  25. NightmareFuel.Pokemon Ghost Stories: Giratina itself is quite creepy. Despite its sinister nature, it's more aggressive than downright evil. However, it becomes more terrifying when you realize that Giratina is essentially an Eldritch Abomination akin to that of Yog-Sothothnote . It rules a world consisting of anti-matter (something we as humans have very limited understanding of as it is), can shift between two forms (one a six-legged dragon and the other a serpentine-looking...thing), is able to attack by hiding in the shadows and emerging from them (IE: Shadow Force), and has an obsession with maintaining balance to the point where it will gladly drag anyone (Cyrus found out the hard way) down into an alternate world where our understanding of physics and reality as we know it are thrown out the window. Giratina isn't just scary, it's something that would fit right in an H. P. Lovecraft horror novel.
  26. HilariousInHindsight.Anime And Manga: Similar to the Pokémon example above with Dent, one of the first things that Tamaki remarks upon seeing Haruhi's apartment is that it's very clean. Mamoru Miyano would later voice Death the Kid in Soul Eater, who is absolutely OBSESSED with cleanliness and symmetry.
  27. Characters.Dicey Dungeons: Before they entered the dungeons, they were the kind of human who used color-coded charts to schedule their life down to the minute, which Lady Luck (who by her nature thrives on chaos) finds distasteful.
  28. Literature.The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night Time: Christopher gets very upset when anything in his house is changed and goes as far as measuring where the furniture is so he can put it back in the right places after his mother vacuums. He likes Mrs. Shears because she's very neat and organizes everything in the kitchen. Worth noting the character is heavily implied to be autistic, though it's never said.
  29. Recap.The Powerpuff Girls 2016 S 01 Ep 10 Power Up Puff: Blossom really exhibits it here, to the point where it's how she finally manage to acquire her construct power after ranting to Bubbles and Buttercup about the mess the pimento loaf monster was making. Knowing the character from context I think it's the "order and cleanliness obsessed" take.
  30. Creator.Melanie Watt: The Scaredy Squirrel series about a squirrel with Super OCD - Scaredy Squirrel, Scaredy Squirrel Makes a Friend, Scaredy Squirrel at the Beach, Scaredy Squirrel at Night and Scaredy Squirrel Has a Birthday Party (February 2011) This series has been made into an Animated Adaptation (see its page) by Nelvana. It's definitely In Name Only, with Scaredy working a daily job at a grocery store and being presented as a somewhat more mature, and rather geeky, character. Context from the work page places it in this category.
  31. Creator.Doug Walker: Refers to himself as the "OCD guy" in "The Painted Lady", though it's more about obsessing over work and scheduling than it is about the usual "being clean".
  32. Pantheon.Light And Brightness: Portfolio: Solid Light, Indian Smart People, Keeping Serenity In The Midst Of Chaos, Good Lady In The Midst Of Corrupt Group, Obsession On Order, Doubts Between Trying To Follow Order Or Good, Using Beams A Lot, The Order Side of Order vs. Chaos Worth noting the character is canonically autistic.

    Reference to OCD or its other symptoms, but in a realistic or not necessarily stereotypical context (6/50) 
  1. Recap.Haven S 2 E 6 Audrey Parkers Day Off: Anson Shumway, whose Trouble manifests as repeating the same day over and over to get it right. It's a surprisingly realistic take on the disorder, and avoids a lot of the stereotypes. The emphasis is placed almost entirely on Anson's his obsessions and the anxiety and guilt they cause, rather than the rituals he completes to ease it. He's seen tapping his shirt buttons and fiddling with the radio in times of high stress, but his compulsions do not connect to the situation at hand. He also tells Audrey he is aware that both the anxiety and the compulsions are irrational, and appears embarrassed to have them at all, which is Truth in Television for most people who suffer from OCD in real life.
  2. DeconstructedCharacterArchetype.The 100 Girlfriends Who Really Really Really Really Really Love You: Chiyo is a deconstruction of the diligent class representative/only child. The more everyone around her kept telling her how proper and responsible she was, the more she felt like that was how she had to be, trying to live up to expectations. Her wants and needs never entered the equation, until Rentarou came along. She suffers from a rather realistic portrayal of obsessive-compulsive disorder, which almost caused her to burn her bridges with all the other girls.
  3. Characters.Summer Camp Wawanakwa: With the number 9, like canon. He initially believes everyone getting in trouble for the cliff is his fault because he tripped and took 8 steps towards his dive. Gwen helps him by making him a necklace with a "9" pendant to rub to calm down. Obsession is less about order and more a specific number, which is more true to the actual OCD than the stereotype
  4. Theatre.Macbeth: Freud compared Lady Macbeth's obsession with bloodstains with mysophobia, a typical trait of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
  5. Characters.Batman Villains: An eccentric mastermind with a tendency toward leaving cryptic clues about whatever he is plotting at the current moment. The Riddler is one of Batman's most intelligent adversaries, but his obsession with proving his intellectual superiority over the Dark Knight occasionally hinders him. The Riddler is the first of Batman's primary rogues to be depicted with a mental disorder: Joker, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and Mad Hatter were not established as criminally insane until The '70s, but the Riddler's Super OCD was alluded to as early as The '60s.
  6. Rhetorical Question Blunder: Batman: Arkham Knight: Batman and Catwoman are forced to go through one of Riddler's Death Traps together, leading to this:
    Catwoman: *sigh* Another one? What's Eddie's problem?
    Batman: Fanatic narcissism, egocentricism, and megalomania crossed with severe obsessive compulsion.
    Catwoman: ...Thanks.
    Batman: Don't mention it.

    ZCE/unclear/other issue (8/50) 
  1. Fanfic.Snuggles The Symbiote: The Starscream: Roderick Kingsley/the Hobgoblin manages to get a job for Accord, then takes advantage of his neuroses to assassinate him and take over his operation, while making it look like someone else pulled it off.
  2. IdiotHero.Anime And Manga: Arguably Kid falls somewhere between the two (which he would not like) — he stops to think at times, but does make downright stupid decisions, at least in part thanks to his very single-minded way of thinking.
  3. Pantheon.Singular Symbolism: Portfolio: Mad Artist, Serial Killer wearing a white mask, AD Caster, Sanctioned by the Ionian Court, Lean and Mean, Cold Sniper, Fashionable Asymmetry, obsessed with four and death, Evil Ionian "Obsessed with Four Is Death" doesn't seem like enough info to know how it fits the trope.
  4. OnlySaneMan.Western Animation: Chip of Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers isn't without his quirks (he shows signs of Super OCD) but otherwise is this for the rest of the Rangers: Dale is a lazy slacker and Cloud Cuckoo Lander, Gadget also lives in her own little world much of the time, and suffers from frequent bouts of Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny!, Monterey is a Leeroy Jenkins Boisterous Bruiser who can be difficult to keep from striking off on his own. Zipper is about the only other member of the team without a particular foible, but Chip is the one who can consistently keep the whole team working together and on task.
  5. NightmareFuel.Voltron Legendary Defender: Made worse by the fact that we meet an Alternate Universe Slav in Season 3, who still seems to be Super OCD, but is more bold than his "main" self, and even a bit Crazy Is Cool. Whatever happened to him in Beta Traz clearly screwed him up big time.
  6. Webcomic.Joseph And Yusra: Joseph is very passionate about his kosher utensils, thank you very much.
  7. Series.Cucumber Banana Tofu: Amy from episode 6 of Banana deals with this.
  8. Characters.Pokemon Generation IV Chatot To Arceus: The reason why Giratina was likely locked in the Distortion World. It had issues with the Distortion World spilling out into the real world from Dialga and Palkia's fighting. Then again seeing as how it's the personification of Antimatter, this makes sense, as Antimatter reacts quite violently with real matter. While a previous Giratina entry claimed this to be "obsession with order," this entry kind of argues with itself, so it's unclear if this interpretation is about an obsession with order or a justified concern about destruction.

Results:

  • 8% about stereotypical OCD
  • 64% about obsessions with order, cleanliness, and/or rules
  • 12% about OCD in general
  • 18% too ambiguous or low-context to categorize


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To-do list:

  • Remove misuse from on-page examples and move wicks that fit the retooled definition (characters obsessed with rules and order) and delete others that don't fit existing tropes. References to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (but not usage as a trope) can be directed to the new Useful Notes page.

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by ~mightymewtron, who gave others permission to make the thread.

Super OCD suffers from an unclear name. The description seems to be about stereotypical depictions of OCD, but the majority of usage (as seen on Super OCD Wick Check) simply refers to characters obsessed with order, cleanliness (which may be redundant with Neat Freak), and/or following rules, regardless of whether they're mentioned to have OCD. There is also some usage for OCD in general regardless of whether it fits a stereotype, which is not a trope on its own (not helped that OCD is a redirect to the trope). If it's about the general obsessive behavior and not the OCD stereotypes, then the name's not only misleading, but potentially offensive and misleading about the actual disorder.

The definition should be clearly retooled for characters obsessed with rules and order (with a name like Obsessively Organized), with the OCD stereotype simply being one part of that as opposed to the basis of the article. Those obsessed with cleanliness may belong better at Neat Freak. For the information about OCD itself, we could make UsefulNotes.Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and go more in-depth about stereotypes versus reality there, as well as categorize depictions of OCD in media.

Wick check:

Trope: Super OCD

Wick count: 1328 wicks

Laconic: "A person obsessed with order, symmetry and following certain patterns of behaviour."

Super OCD has an unclear name that may be encouraging misuse. It seems to be split between two usages: one about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder stereotypes, and another about extreme desire for order regardless of whether OCD is brought up. It is also sometimes used to refer to any instance of a character fitting OCD, even if it doesn't fit the stereotype. It's unclear which of these descriptions is the main intention, as the description seems to describe OCD stereotypes while the usage leans more towards broad obsession with organization.

Goal: 50 wicks. Potholes bolded. First example taken from each page.

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    Stereotypical OCD depictions (4/50) 
  1. Neat Freak: This is stereotypical behavior for any character with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).
  2. Series.Crank Yankers: The aptly-named OCD Ken, who requests bizarre things from his callers such as pushing certain buttons on the phone.
  3. Characters.With Pearl And Ruby Glowing The Palace Part Three: Averted hard. He has an OCD diagnosis, but it's not the stereotypical neat-freak manifestation; he's suffering from "pedophile OCD", in which the obsessive fear is that he's going to molest or otherwise harm a child and the compulsion involves avoiding children or punishing himself for thinking the obsessive thoughts. One of the authors has dealt with this for real. This is listed here because it's described as an aversion, taking the stance that the trope is about stereotypical OCD.
  4. YMMV.The Powerpuff Girls 2016: The girls' personalities also came under fire. Some like the fact that they are a tad more mature than their original incarnations. They also like that the girls bicker at a more frequent basis, like any siblings would. Others feel that the writers have flanderized some of their more negative aspects: Buttercup's thirst for action, Bubbles' girlishness, and Blossom's need for order to the point where it seems like she has Super OCD. The "she has" wording sounds like it's treating the trope as the exaggerated disorder.

    Obsessed with order/cleanliness, with no mention of OCD (32/50) 
  1. MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.Tropes A To B: To an extent for Twilight Sparkle - her high education is considered something of a second ability, however her intricacies also lead her to be Super OCD and neurotic to extremes on occasion, not to mention her diligence to education kept her isolated and socially inept for most of her early life.
  2. Recap.Littlest Pet Shop 2012 S 3 E 24 In The Loop: Goes overboard with it in Act 1 and initially thinks the solution to getting out of the time loop is to be even more cautious.
  3. WMG.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Secondary Characters: Ms. Super OCD, looking after babies, who are inherently chaotic? This I want to see! About Twilight, so it's the same context as the first listed wick in this folder.
  4. Recap.The Angry Beavers E 7 Boxtop Beavers: Norb comes off this way the way he lines up his cereal boxes, eats his cereal, cuts and stacks his boxtops...
  5. Odd Job Gods: One interesting aspect of Elder Scrolls gods is that they seem to have overlapping roles and spheres, but that within each of these overlapping spheres they have very, very specific areas of responsibility. For example, Mara and Dibella are both gods of love, but they handle very specific aspects of love, with Mara being the goddess of affection and union between two beings, while Dibella is associated with passionate love and creativity. Similarly, Jyggalag and Peryite are both gods of order, but Peryite is the god of menial tasks and day-to-day activities (essentially the god of middle managers) while Jyggalag is a god of obsessive ordering and prediction of all things.
  6. Characters.Soul Eater Troubled Souls Class Crescent Moon: His love for symmetry, of course, but it is explored. During Kid’s fight with his shadow, the latter says this makes Kid “too unique” and that such a radical difference will bring about insurrection and fighting among his peers and underlings. It also aptly demonstrates that Kid, for all his prodigal talents, will waver against very dangerous foes if they show that symmetry he loves so deeply.
  7. Recap.Sponge Bob Square Pants S 8 E 19 Karen 20 In Spongeiac: Serious Business: Mr. Krabs is furious with SpongeBob for using less than a hundredth of a percent more mustard than he should, as it will cause him to go bankrupt in just over four hundred years.
  8. Characters.Citadel Of The Heart Grandis: Oddly enough, Grandis does seem to call the shots a lot more often when he's in a role of leadership not of the Ultimorian Deities; why he's this inconsistent has yet to be cleared up, but it's already been established he's already an Oxymoronic Being due to the fact he's The Pig-Pen despite having a Super OCD attitude towards everything not related to himself. Seems to be more about cleanliness than order but I think that's also covered by the trope.
  9. Funny.The New Adventures Of Invader Zim: Ying gives a heartfelt speech about why he's so loyal to Nyx… and then GIR kills the mood by walking in with his pig friend, the two proceeding to make a mess all over the base. Ying, who just cleaned the base, gives an Eye Twitch.
  10. Memes.Ed Edd N Eddy: Messy, messy, messy...Explanation 
  11. VideoGame.Sabres Of Infinity: Sergeant Hernandes seems to be quite neurotic about rigidly following all the rules at all times, and appears to have an obsession with insignificant details, such as correcting minuscule imperfections in your men's uniforms.
  12. Screw the Rules, It's the Apocalypse!: Big Hero 6 has a lesser-scale moment, with the party escaping the Yokai. Wasabi drives in compliance with the traffic regulations... to the point he stops at a red traffic light, only to get chewed out by GoGo (who proceeds to take over the steering wheel shortly afterwards): More about following rules than keeping things neat but I think that still counts?
  13. Recap.HTF Wishy Washy: When Petunia sees a bottle not facing the right way, she panics before turning it.
  14. TheComicallySerious.Western Animation: Twilight Sparkle much of the time, who often displays a no-nonsense attitude to things, and is a Neat Freak and Workaholic rolled into one. She is also dorky and neurotic, due to both her wackier friends' antics or her Super OCD nature grating on her sanity.
  15. Characters.Kemono Friends: She just can't commit herself to building the real thing without fear of mistakes.
  16. JerkWithAHeartOfGold.Anime And Manga: Captain Levi from is utterly stone-faced and rude to his subordinates, has the Face of a Thug, and is often thought of by both characters in-universe and fans as callous. He's actually incredibly compassionate and cares about his troops, even willing to ignore his Super OCD to take the hand of a bloodied and dying soldier and reassure him in his last moments.
  17. WebAnimation.Eddie At The LMV: The residents of Cleaner Close in the Daz commercials either have Super OCD or are "Double D-like neat freaks", as Eddie puts it.
  18. YMMV.Littlest Pet Shop 2012 S 4 E 4 Senior Day: Fridge Logic: Jerry's mention of eating dinner at exact moments and insistence on clean pillowsheets hints that Russell may have inherited some of his Super OCD from Jerry.
  19. YMMV.The Hour: Early in Season Two, Lix tells Randall to stay calm when she tells him bad news, and not to start rearranging his desk. At the time, this is a bit of Lix's typical Deadpan Snarkery about his Super OCD, but when they find out that their daughter (who they've never seen and Randall spent years trying to track down,) died in an air raid we see that Randall does in fact try to cope with extreme stress by rearranging his desk, and it's not funny. At all.
  20. Thanks for the Mammary: In Soul Eater, while Death the Kid is complaining about how everything around him is asymmetrical, he grabs Liz and Patti's breasts and screams, "Even your boobs are different sizes!" Liz angrily punches him out.
  21. Characters.Gremlins Humans: Implied by some of his behavior, such as his obsessive desire for orderliness and strict adherence to rules and schedules. At the end of the film, he reluctantly complies to Clamps' suggestion to take a vacation, after which Forster hangs up the phone in annoyance. And in one deleted scene, he's seen meticulously arranging every single little thing on his desk to the centimeter. The use of "implied" may suggest the troper thought this trope was about explicit mentions of OCD, however, as this is just the "obsessed with order" interpretation of the trope played straight.
  22. Characters.Warhammer 40000 Chaos Gods: Plaguebearers, who go about counting Nurgle's plagues and the numbers of the infected, droning on in a Creepy Monotone as they tally the numbers on a battlefield. While they can't actually finish their counts, this apparently comes from some latent desire for order in the inherent disorder that is Chaos, or symbolic that Nurgle's ultimate goal will ultimately include the downfall of Chaos as the universe is reborn into something else.
  23. TropersDoIt.On Live Action TV: Emma does it cleanly.
  24. Characters.Hell Girl Ai Enma: When she returns to the twilight realm after fully reincarnating in Mitsuganae, she is slightly uncomfortable about the placement of her computer, citing its position is slightly off the desk from where it was previously.
  25. NightmareFuel.Pokemon Ghost Stories: Giratina itself is quite creepy. Despite its sinister nature, it's more aggressive than downright evil. However, it becomes more terrifying when you realize that Giratina is essentially an Eldritch Abomination akin to that of Yog-Sothothnote . It rules a world consisting of anti-matter (something we as humans have very limited understanding of as it is), can shift between two forms (one a six-legged dragon and the other a serpentine-looking...thing), is able to attack by hiding in the shadows and emerging from them (IE: Shadow Force), and has an obsession with maintaining balance to the point where it will gladly drag anyone (Cyrus found out the hard way) down into an alternate world where our understanding of physics and reality as we know it are thrown out the window. Giratina isn't just scary, it's something that would fit right in an H. P. Lovecraft horror novel.
  26. HilariousInHindsight.Anime And Manga: Similar to the Pokémon example above with Dent, one of the first things that Tamaki remarks upon seeing Haruhi's apartment is that it's very clean. Mamoru Miyano would later voice Death the Kid in Soul Eater, who is absolutely OBSESSED with cleanliness and symmetry.
  27. Characters.Dicey Dungeons: Before they entered the dungeons, they were the kind of human who used color-coded charts to schedule their life down to the minute, which Lady Luck (who by her nature thrives on chaos) finds distasteful.
  28. Literature.The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night Time: Christopher gets very upset when anything in his house is changed and goes as far as measuring where the furniture is so he can put it back in the right places after his mother vacuums. He likes Mrs. Shears because she's very neat and organizes everything in the kitchen. Worth noting the character is heavily implied to be autistic, though it's never said.
  29. Recap.The Powerpuff Girls 2016 S 01 Ep 10 Power Up Puff: Blossom really exhibits it here, to the point where it's how she finally manage to acquire her construct power after ranting to Bubbles and Buttercup about the mess the pimento loaf monster was making. Knowing the character from context I think it's the "order and cleanliness obsessed" take.
  30. Creator.Melanie Watt: The Scaredy Squirrel series about a squirrel with Super OCD - Scaredy Squirrel, Scaredy Squirrel Makes a Friend, Scaredy Squirrel at the Beach, Scaredy Squirrel at Night and Scaredy Squirrel Has a Birthday Party (February 2011) This series has been made into an Animated Adaptation (see its page) by Nelvana. It's definitely In Name Only, with Scaredy working a daily job at a grocery store and being presented as a somewhat more mature, and rather geeky, character. Context from the work page places it in this category.
  31. Creator.Doug Walker: Refers to himself as the "OCD guy" in "The Painted Lady", though it's more about obsessing over work and scheduling than it is about the usual "being clean".
  32. Pantheon.Light And Brightness: Portfolio: Solid Light, Indian Smart People, Keeping Serenity In The Midst Of Chaos, Good Lady In The Midst Of Corrupt Group, Obsession On Order, Doubts Between Trying To Follow Order Or Good, Using Beams A Lot, The Order Side of Order vs. Chaos Worth noting the character is canonically autistic.

    Reference to OCD or its other symptoms, but in a realistic or not necessarily stereotypical context (6/50) 
  1. Recap.Haven S 2 E 6 Audrey Parkers Day Off: Anson Shumway, whose Trouble manifests as repeating the same day over and over to get it right. It's a surprisingly realistic take on the disorder, and avoids a lot of the stereotypes. The emphasis is placed almost entirely on Anson's his obsessions and the anxiety and guilt they cause, rather than the rituals he completes to ease it. He's seen tapping his shirt buttons and fiddling with the radio in times of high stress, but his compulsions do not connect to the situation at hand. He also tells Audrey he is aware that both the anxiety and the compulsions are irrational, and appears embarrassed to have them at all, which is Truth in Television for most people who suffer from OCD in real life.
  2. DeconstructedCharacterArchetype.The 100 Girlfriends Who Really Really Really Really Really Love You: Chiyo is a deconstruction of the diligent class representative/only child. The more everyone around her kept telling her how proper and responsible she was, the more she felt like that was how she had to be, trying to live up to expectations. Her wants and needs never entered the equation, until Rentarou came along. She suffers from a rather realistic portrayal of obsessive-compulsive disorder, which almost caused her to burn her bridges with all the other girls.
  3. Characters.Summer Camp Wawanakwa: With the number 9, like canon. He initially believes everyone getting in trouble for the cliff is his fault because he tripped and took 8 steps towards his dive. Gwen helps him by making him a necklace with a "9" pendant to rub to calm down. Obsession is less about order and more a specific number, which is more true to the actual OCD than the stereotype
  4. Theatre.Macbeth: Freud compared Lady Macbeth's obsession with bloodstains with mysophobia, a typical trait of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
  5. Characters.Batman Villains: An eccentric mastermind with a tendency toward leaving cryptic clues about whatever he is plotting at the current moment. The Riddler is one of Batman's most intelligent adversaries, but his obsession with proving his intellectual superiority over the Dark Knight occasionally hinders him. The Riddler is the first of Batman's primary rogues to be depicted with a mental disorder: Joker, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and Mad Hatter were not established as criminally insane until The '70s, but the Riddler's Super OCD was alluded to as early as The '60s.
  6. Rhetorical Question Blunder: Batman: Arkham Knight: Batman and Catwoman are forced to go through one of Riddler's Death Traps together, leading to this:
    Catwoman: *sigh* Another one? What's Eddie's problem?
    Batman: Fanatic narcissism, egocentricism, and megalomania crossed with severe obsessive compulsion.
    Catwoman: ...Thanks.
    Batman: Don't mention it.

    ZCE/unclear/other issue (8/50) 
  1. Fanfic.Snuggles The Symbiote: The Starscream: Roderick Kingsley/the Hobgoblin manages to get a job for Accord, then takes advantage of his neuroses to assassinate him and take over his operation, while making it look like someone else pulled it off.
  2. IdiotHero.Anime And Manga: Arguably Kid falls somewhere between the two (which he would not like) — he stops to think at times, but does make downright stupid decisions, at least in part thanks to his very single-minded way of thinking.
  3. Pantheon.Singular Symbolism: Portfolio: Mad Artist, Serial Killer wearing a white mask, AD Caster, Sanctioned by the Ionian Court, Lean and Mean, Cold Sniper, Fashionable Asymmetry, obsessed with four and death, Evil Ionian "Obsessed with Four Is Death" doesn't seem like enough info to know how it fits the trope.
  4. OnlySaneMan.Western Animation: Chip of Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers isn't without his quirks (he shows signs of Super OCD) but otherwise is this for the rest of the Rangers: Dale is a lazy slacker and Cloud Cuckoo Lander, Gadget also lives in her own little world much of the time, and suffers from frequent bouts of Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny!, Monterey is a Leeroy Jenkins Boisterous Bruiser who can be difficult to keep from striking off on his own. Zipper is about the only other member of the team without a particular foible, but Chip is the one who can consistently keep the whole team working together and on task.
  5. NightmareFuel.Voltron Legendary Defender: Made worse by the fact that we meet an Alternate Universe Slav in Season 3, who still seems to be Super OCD, but is more bold than his "main" self, and even a bit Crazy Is Cool. Whatever happened to him in Beta Traz clearly screwed him up big time.
  6. Webcomic.Joseph And Yusra: Joseph is very passionate about his kosher utensils, thank you very much.
  7. Series.Cucumber Banana Tofu: Amy from episode 6 of Banana deals with this.
  8. Characters.Pokemon Generation IV Chatot To Arceus: The reason why Giratina was likely locked in the Distortion World. It had issues with the Distortion World spilling out into the real world from Dialga and Palkia's fighting. Then again seeing as how it's the personification of Antimatter, this makes sense, as Antimatter reacts quite violently with real matter. While a previous Giratina entry claimed this to be "obsession with order," this entry kind of argues with itself, so it's unclear if this interpretation is about an obsession with order or a justified concern about destruction.

Results:

  • 8% about stereotypical OCD
  • 64% about obsessions with order, cleanliness, and/or rules
  • 12% about OCD in general
  • 18% too ambiguous or low-context to categorize


Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 6th 2023 at 6:03:35 AM

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#2: Aug 20th 2022 at 10:10:16 AM

And since pings still don't work in opening posts:

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Anyway, I think the proposal in the second paragraph sounds like a good idea.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 20th 2022 at 12:12:18 PM

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#3: Aug 20th 2022 at 10:15:12 AM

[up]Don't forget characters with extreme attention to detail (such as those who spot out all the individual trees that make up a forest).

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#4: Aug 20th 2022 at 10:18:17 AM

[tup] to all the solutions proposed in the OP, including the rename and redefinition to Obsessively Organized, the Useful Notes page, and moving some examples to Neat Freak.

[down] Agreed, Nen_desharu's trope suggestion is indeed a good idea.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 20th 2022 at 1:25:02 PM

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#5: Aug 20th 2022 at 10:20:24 AM

Thanks for the @, Gaston! I stand by all solutions outlined in my OP writeup.

[up][up] Also a good trope idea if we don't have it already.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 20th 2022 at 1:21:14 PM

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#6: Aug 20th 2022 at 12:00:40 PM

Expand and rename, Obsessively Organized sounds good. Make UN on the mental condition, though at that point it would be secondary.

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#7: Aug 20th 2022 at 7:20:44 PM

Maybe we could also have something like "Hollywood OCD" for the way the disorder tends to be portrayed?

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#8: Aug 20th 2022 at 7:23:05 PM

Maybe, if we have enough examples that wouldn't just be lumped into Hollywood Psych.

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#10: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:22:02 AM

[tup]With expanding and renaming.


[up](x3) Maybe, though I personally prefer "Obsessively Organized".

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#11: Aug 22nd 2022 at 7:57:16 AM

[tup] Retool to proposed Obsessively Organized trope. And that redirect is unacceptable.

Edited by Tabs on Aug 22nd 2022 at 7:57:56 AM

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#12: Aug 22nd 2022 at 9:38:25 AM

[up]I dewicked and cut it. There were only four wicks, but I probably don't even need to say how it was being used considering how the redirect's target is being used.

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#13: Aug 23rd 2022 at 3:40:43 PM

It's been 3 days. Should we hook a crowner? So far here's what's been suggested:

  • Retool into a trope about characters obsessed with rule and order
  • If retooled, rename the trope
  • Create a Useful Notes page for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
  • TLP or yard "characters with extreme attention to detail"

Are my suggestions sound? Are any changes to them needed?

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#14: Aug 23rd 2022 at 6:01:35 PM

[up]I second the suggestion to make a "Hollywood OCD" trope, or at least add the option to the crowner.

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#15: Aug 24th 2022 at 3:36:40 AM

I hooked a crowner since it's been more than three days.

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#16: Aug 24th 2022 at 4:46:59 AM

[up] Should Phi Sat and Imperial Majesty XO's Hollywood OCD suggestion be added? Or is that something that should be yarded/separately sent to TLP?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 24th 2022 at 8:44:45 AM

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#17: Aug 24th 2022 at 5:39:30 AM

My one issue with the "extreme attention to detail" proposal is the line between being observant and being obsessively detailed and people conflating the two. Like, most detectives and P Is would be categorized as the former, but not so much the latter. As long as the draft can make clear that it's for obsessive portrayals, then I think it's fine

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#19: Aug 24th 2022 at 11:22:52 AM

I suspect that people would link to Hollywood OCD any time a work mentions OCD verbatim, whether that portrayal is accurate, stereotypical, or something in-between.

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#22: Aug 24th 2022 at 12:12:27 PM

[up]That's a good question. I cut the OCD redirect to this trope because it was being misused in addition to being inaccurate.

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#23: Aug 24th 2022 at 12:39:12 PM

I voted yes on all options. The original name is misleading, because it isn't a "super" version of OCD, due to media not really depicting real OCD. New suggestions, including the Useful Notes, are good ideas. As a former librarian, I got a kick out of the page image of the guy checking the card catalog drawers, but that could still work for "Obsessivly Organized", I think.

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#24: Aug 24th 2022 at 12:55:08 PM

I prefer not to vote on making TLP drafts in TRS cuz people can do that independently of TRS and let the community decide if the idea is viable.

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#25: Aug 24th 2022 at 1:54:01 PM

Same, it's why I said that it doesn't need to be on the crowner when the idea was initially brought up.

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Consensus was to rename Super OCD and retool it into a trope about characters obsessed with rule and order. What should its new name be?

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