My point is, when we move pages around all the time, it's difficult to search through edit history (for instance, to check that you are not edit warring).
It would help if we explicitly wrote in the edit reason where we move the pages/sections and what the source page is when we do move them. Otherwise just finding the previous page requires a full-on investigation
Also, I've done this for future reference: one
, two
.
Edit: I merged MCU: S.H.I.E.L.D., Shield Leadership and Strategic Scientific Reserve pages. The new page is 163,859 bytes long. I fixed all links.
Splitting off Daisy Johnes - yay or nay (MCU: S.H.I.E.L.D. – Team Coulson is at 230k with her, her section is 57k bytes long)? Was this merge
Edited by Asherinka on Apr 3rd 2025 at 5:25:56 AM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.For the Team Coulson page, we could make a sub page specifically for the founding members.
Edited by DoctorSleep on Apr 3rd 2025 at 5:35:56 AM
What about this page?
MCU: Others: 35,408 bytes (too short)
- Index etc - 700 bytes
- Meta (Stan Lee & Kevin) - 17,905 bytes => move to MCU: Deities ? (147,9k bytes)
- LMDs - 4,658 bytes: move to the respective character sections (idk, just put those at the end of the sections)?
- The Framework - 12,130 bytes: ??
Edited by Asherinka on Apr 4th 2025 at 2:49:43 PM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.Other is other for a reason. It shouldn't matter if it's too small, it's the leftovers that have nowhere else to go.
Also we had decided awhile ago to remove LMD's from characters page and not treat them as variants.
The framework is just a virtual reality. I guess they're variants, but idk. That's why they are there.
Edited by GateStarX on Apr 4th 2025 at 12:20:41 PM
It's gonna be fun on the bun!
The Infinity Stones were removed from character pages for a reason. They might be alive in some form, but they don't have anywhere near enough characterization tropes to need a folder.
The Infinity Stones are currently on the MCU: Cosmic page, but personally I'm not sure it's the right page for them. Putting them back on the MCU: Others page would solve the problem.
During the discussion here
, it was debated whether to add back the Infinity Stones to either the Cosmic or Others page. I made a judgement call to add it to Cosmic since they're definitely cosmic in nature, but it it's more practical and it's agreed upon to transfer it to Others, I will do it.
For the record, I'm strongly opposed to them having a character sheet. They don't have enough characterization, they are treated as objects narratively and almost all of the tropes listed are in regards to things that happen to them or reactions other characters have. We don't make character sheets for inanimate objects.
regulation pigeonIt was discussed in this thread
that the Infinity Stones fit the same criteria that weapons such as Stormbreaker, Mjolnir and the Necrosword that are enough to classify them as having enough characterization to get their own characterization folder.
I don't have a strong opinion on whether they should have character sheets (maybe?). I'd rather keep them on the Cosmic page.
I think I agree with GateStarX, let's just leave MCU: Others be as it is for now.
Anyone willing to sort out
MCU: Criminals & Terrorists? That's the last page below 40k bytes left (not counting MCU: Others).
Edited by Asherinka on Apr 5th 2025 at 8:56:42 AM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.Could you do it, please? I don't know most of these characters, I'm afraid to mess things up :-)
Edit: I recreated the page: MCU: Daisy Johnson (now 57,4k bytes). The editor who moved the contents to MCU: S.H.I.E.L.D. – Team Coulson (now 172,6k bytes) didn't bother updating the links back then, so there is no need to change them now
Updated today:
- MCU: Loki Laufeyson 242,130
- MCU: Other Supervillains 222,799
- MCU: HYDRA – Leadership 220,088
- MCU: Wakanda Government & Military 217,521
- MCU: Tony Stark 217,102
- MCU: Avengers – Allies 207,571
- MCU: Asgard 206,128
- MCU: Thanos 201,477
- MCU: Thor Odinson 199,723
- MCU: Criminals & Terrorists – New York 197,242
- MCU: Stephen Strange 196,973
- MCU: Cosmic 195,715
- MCU: Avengers - Families 188,356
- MCU: Defenders – Allies 188,105
- MCU: Criminal & Terrorist Organizations 188,073
- MCU: Multiversal Foes 187,833
- MCU: United States Government 183,091
- MCU: Criminals & Terrorists 27,278
- MCU: Others 34,283
- MCU: The Lighthouse 41,835
- MCU: Ravagers 42,950
- MCU: Hope van Dyne 43,126
- MCU: Melinda May 43,696
- MCU: Jane Foster 43,953
- MCU: Kamala Khan 45,276
- MCU: Avengers 45,957
- MCU: Sovereign 47,079
- MCU: Kate Bishop 47,605
- MCU: Xu Shang-Chi 47,698
- MCU: Yelena Belova 47,758
- MCU: Knowhere 48,113
- MCU: Robbie Reyes 48,447
Edited by Asherinka on Apr 6th 2025 at 2:19:28 PM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.Making this list to account for everybody in the page:
To be moved to MCU: Criminals & Terrorists – United States
- Vanchat
- Alex Sokolov
- Raoul Bushman
- Eugene Patilio / Leap-Frog
- Roxxon Gas Station Robbers
- Todd Neiman
- Duane Porter
- Rick Cotton
- Edwin Dunlap
- Jeremy
- Eric
- Peachy
- Shades
- Comanche
- Squabbles
- White Power Dave
- Herman
- Fletcher Heggs
To be moved to MCU: Criminal & Terrorist Organizations
- Smiling Tiger
- Khalid Khandil
- Anton Mogart
- Ursa
Will do, thank you.
Edit: Why is Love on MCU: Other Superheroes? I'd rather move her to MCU: Asgard (Allies of Asgard).
Edited by Asherinka on Apr 7th 2025 at 7:01:52 AM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.![]()
She was there because her folder was created before the Avengers Families page was created, then we all forgot she was there.

Well for Scarlet Witch the last move was just a page rename to go with a new style.
For Sylvie, yeah it's a giant pain in the ass continuously moving her page. I'd have liked to keep it a CSP. Hopefully the news rules favour more CS Ps.
It's gonna be fun on the bun!