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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2301: Mar 14th 2025 at 2:56:00 PM

For the record, MCU: Loki Variants has 250k bytes of text and no warning. I refuse to understand how it works and when it is triggered tongue

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2302: Mar 14th 2025 at 3:00:56 PM

Actually, at this point do we want to remake the Loki Laufeyson (Variant L1130) just to make sure that the variant page doesn't get to the point of the warning.

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2303: Mar 14th 2025 at 3:10:23 PM

Let me trigger the warning first, please :-) I want to see when it will pop up. I'm currently editing the page anyway.

[down] Thank you, oh gracious Lord!

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 14th 2025 at 6:14:09 AM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2305: Mar 14th 2025 at 3:17:02 PM

I feel like I'm being vindicated more and more in my thoughts on trying to keep as many Marvel CSPs alive as possible, given just how many we've had to un-merge in the past few months...

Anyways, count me in as someone who wants to bring back L1130 to his own page.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Mar 14th 2025 at 3:17:13 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2306: Mar 14th 2025 at 3:22:12 PM

I agree and I'll do the split myself, just let me test it please. It could be useful to know the actual limit.

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#2307: Mar 17th 2025 at 5:06:49 AM

Maniacal Dove 902 has made this edit that splits out the body of Wolverine seen in Deadpool & Wolverine saying it's a separate version from that seen in Logan, that just happened to die in an identical way related to X-23 and be buried in the same place.

Is this legit?

While it's true that the Logan and Deadpool timelines don't really mesh, Deadpool also explicitly refer to Logan while digging him up and it's heavily implied it is supposed to be the same version, given the Laura that appears is supposed to be the one from Logan as well.

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#2308: Mar 17th 2025 at 5:35:26 AM

No, it ain’t. Revert. Seems like they’re new here and is some sort of multiverse theorist if you look at their edits.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#2310: Mar 17th 2025 at 5:58:52 AM

Sent them a unilateral notifier too.

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Mar 17th 2025 at 8:58:59 PM

Snowy66 Since: May, 2012
#2312: Mar 17th 2025 at 11:50:28 AM

I had commented it out and brought it to the discussion page, but looks like they reverted it.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2313: Mar 18th 2025 at 10:57:13 AM

I give up :-) 260k bytes and still no warning. I'll split the page now.

Anyway, this means that while we need to be careful with pages with many folders like MCU: Multiverse (which earned the warning at 220k) or MCU: Citizens – New York City, we can probably let pages like MCU: Thunderbolts grow until they are, say, 230k bytes long.

PS MCU: Other Supervillains - 200k bytes, Bullseye - 70k out of those, other 10 characters - 130k. I removed all blank folders with nothing but a link inside. We wait for now, right?

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 18th 2025 at 3:44:20 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2314: Mar 18th 2025 at 1:39:37 PM

Wait for now. I don't want to do anything until Born Again ends.

If we do end up making a page for Bullseye I would then like to talk about the other pages that are smaller than him to see if anything can be merged back or not. Because 130,000 is a little short to justify having so many split pages.

To be fair, the other Superhero and Supervillains pages have always been trickier than the other pages.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 18th 2025 at 3:54:49 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2315: Mar 18th 2025 at 1:55:48 PM

Well, Born Again is getting a second season, so it's not finishing anytime soon. And the bytes will keep piling up until then, so I'd be down for creating a page for Bullseye.

Plus, then we can put a folder for his variant that appears in Deadpool & Wolverine.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2316: Mar 18th 2025 at 2:28:00 PM

I meant season 1. I would rather wait until season 1 is over so we know all of his role there. For example what if he joins up with Fisk or Vanessa or some other organization that means he doesn't fit under "other" anymore. I still remember all the issues we had trying to figure out pages during Agatha All Along.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 18th 2025 at 4:29:51 AM

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2317: Mar 18th 2025 at 2:49:00 PM

[up] Seems reasonable.

Edit: I checked the length of all MCU Character Pages as of today. There.

    Pages with more than 180k bytes 

    Pages with less than 50k bytes 

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 18th 2025 at 7:04:37 AM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2318: Mar 18th 2025 at 5:15:32 PM

[up] Thank you for that. It makes things much easier.

I added this to as a closing quote:

"I know what I did. And I know why I did it. And that's not who I am anymore."

If anyone has better suggestions feel free to suggest it.

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DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#2319: Mar 18th 2025 at 7:16:50 PM

With Loki's page, have we tried separating his tropes so that his appearances from Thor 2 up until Infinity War are treated as a separate character? If his page does hit capacity, it'll be easier to manage then.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2320: Mar 18th 2025 at 8:09:54 PM

[up] They are two separate pages... So yes we have done that.

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2321: Mar 18th 2025 at 9:06:10 PM

That's not what he is talking about. He means, split the original page in two - tropes up to the end of the Avengers, tropes from the Dark World up to Infinity War. I asked about it a couple of years ago, but got no reply.

The page has no warning yet, though.

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 18th 2025 at 12:10:03 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#2322: Mar 18th 2025 at 9:08:53 PM

No I don't think so. That seems unnecessary. That is basically just the main timeline Loki anyways. But that is just my opinion.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 18th 2025 at 11:18:48 AM

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2323: Mar 18th 2025 at 9:23:17 PM

Some franchises do collect character tropes by appearance, look at Dragon Age pages. I'd say it is preferable to a A-K, K-Z split. But I agree that it's unnecessary now. I just checked that another page without a complex structure got no warning at 260k bytes, so we probably need not worry about a similar page with 240k bytes.

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 18th 2025 at 12:51:09 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2324: Mar 18th 2025 at 9:25:24 PM

[up][up] Seconded. Splitting up a character's tropes between portrayals is ridiculous, and would make navigation significantly more frustrating than necessary.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2325: Mar 18th 2025 at 9:33:58 PM

Could we please discuss these?

We obviously need to do something.

Edited by Asherinka on Mar 18th 2025 at 1:01:30 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.

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