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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1876: Nov 13th 2024 at 4:03:49 PM

I think it’s time to launch the Sandbox.MCU Thunderbolts page. Now that we’ve discussed that Bucky isn’t an Avenger, we need a new place for him. Even if the team gets renamed at the end of the movie or the roster changes, that would be spoilers which this page would serve as a smokescreen for. I added in the quotes I proposed, I just think they may need to be a bit clearer. I also crosswicked all the folders so they are up-to-date.

Edited by GateStarX on Nov 13th 2024 at 4:28:14 AM

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1877: Nov 13th 2024 at 5:30:10 PM

Hold on wasn’t Bucky considered an Avenger in TFATWS?

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1878: Nov 13th 2024 at 5:35:10 PM

Nope. Sam was but Bucky was never referred to as an Avenger in that show.

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1879: Nov 13th 2024 at 5:42:17 PM

Lemar said there were 2 Avengers were walking around in Latvia in Episode 4, referring to him and Sam

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1880: Nov 13th 2024 at 5:43:51 PM

Okay I stand corrected. Though, I think that was just shorthand not actually confirming that he was an Avenger.

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1881: Nov 13th 2024 at 5:52:11 PM

I believe that’s enough to justify him being an Avenger as Sam doesn’t even object to him being called one and he was also considered an Avenger in at least three What If…? continuities too but membership aside, I wouldn’t mind actually moving Bucky to Thunderbolts though because in the comics, he’s more a Thunderbolt than an Avenger.

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Nov 13th 2024 at 10:03:47 PM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1882: Nov 13th 2024 at 6:33:25 PM

We need to decide what to do with Masters of Mystic Arts because it is not long enough to justify have two characters split from it. So, we can merge it and Agatha with the Mystics page and leave Wong alone or we can merge Wong and it with the Mystics page and leave Agatha alone. (Note that Agatha is longer than Wong so it might be better to merge her or keep her depending on how you look at it) I really think either way it has to be merge with the Mystics page.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 13th 2024 at 8:40:03 AM

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1883: Nov 13th 2024 at 6:43:07 PM

[up][up]I’d say there’s a difference between being called an Avenger vs actually being inducted into the team. I don’t even think Bucky considers himself an Avenger. But Lamar calling him an Avenger doesn’t actually make him an Avenger. I think you need to officially join the team to be one, and Bucky never did.

[up]Like I said before I’m fine with merging MOTMA, but we need consensus before doing anything and I’m not doing that move because I don’t want the scrutiny. I’m not sure about Wong and Agatha though. While I like Wong I’d lean more to merging him, as he’s unfortunately more of a supporting character than Agatha, even though he’s been fleshed out a lot.

Edited by GateStarX on Nov 13th 2024 at 6:44:50 AM

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1884: Nov 13th 2024 at 10:01:48 PM

I’m thinking… what if we put both team indexes on Bucky’s page? Maybe we can move Bucky’s name on Allies because regardless of how questionable his membership is, he is an ally at least and still put Thunderbolts below that. Bucky HAS been on the old formats of the allies page before Infinity War came out, remember?

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Nov 14th 2024 at 2:02:20 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1885: Nov 13th 2024 at 10:10:26 PM

This is getting complicated...

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1886: Nov 13th 2024 at 10:18:10 PM

It’s just a suggestion that even i’m not fully sure of I just thought of it because some pages have double indexes

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#1887: Nov 13th 2024 at 10:26:06 PM

[up][up][up][up] Lorewise, it would make more sense to merge Wong with Masters of MA and Agatha with her coven. But if the majority is against it, I'd rather keep Agatha's page than Wong's.

Edited by Asherinka on Nov 13th 2024 at 10:28:42 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1888: Nov 13th 2024 at 11:43:59 PM

I don't think we should merge Wong into anything yet. He's got more variants coming up in What If, and it would be much easier to catalog him on his own page.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1889: Nov 14th 2024 at 12:57:22 AM

[up]So does Agatha. I think we just merge MOTMA into MCU: Mystic & Supernatural without anything else.

[up][up][up]For now I think we move Bucky to the Allies page, although I think with all the people for it that I’m just going to launch the Thunderbolts page and be done with it. Put Bucky and Yelena primarily on that index but leave their links under the allies section in the Avengers index.

Edit: I have launched Characters.MCU Thunderbolts, moved the characters, and updated the indexes for the Avengers, Bucky, and Yelena.

Edited by GateStarX on Nov 14th 2024 at 6:23:24 AM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1890: Nov 14th 2024 at 5:31:07 AM

You know what I am fine with just merging the Masters of the Mystic Arts and leaving everything else alone. If only because the Multiverse page is long and will only get long pretty soon.

I can go either way on the indexes.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 14th 2024 at 7:51:37 AM

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MasterSon from a barren ice field Since: Aug, 2017
#1891: Nov 14th 2024 at 6:42:28 PM

[up][up] So you totally support (Bucky's) avenging.grin

Things keep shifting around. Thanks to dynamic universes.

Edited by MasterSon on Nov 14th 2024 at 6:43:00 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1892: Nov 16th 2024 at 2:43:11 AM

Can we unmark Phase 4 spoilers now? It’s been 3 years since TFATWS and I think we should unmark John and Bucky’s spoilers so that when we do mark Thunderbolts spoilers their pages wouldn’t look too spoiler-filled.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1893: Nov 16th 2024 at 6:23:29 AM

Yeah, that's a good idea.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1894: Nov 16th 2024 at 7:16:09 AM

So, am I good to merge the Masters of the Mystic arts page?

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1895: Nov 16th 2024 at 7:17:17 AM

Fine by me. Can we unmark Phase 4 spoilers now?

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1898: Nov 16th 2024 at 9:22:46 AM

I merged the Masters of the Mystic Arts into MCU: Mystic & Supernatural. I also moved Agatha to that index to be with her coven. I kept the Mystic Arts page as a redirect in case it ever gets big enough to split again. Thoughts on how it looks?

Edited by Bullman on Nov 16th 2024 at 11:24:02 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1899: Nov 16th 2024 at 9:43:03 AM

Looks nice, yeah. Great work!

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring

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