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DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1526: Aug 27th 2024 at 7:19:54 AM

I've just had an idea. What if we merge the Spider-Man Trilogy: Supervillains with Spider-Man Trilogy: Main Characters and the The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Supervillains page with the The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Main Characters page?

As mentioned before, there's not enough bytes in the Raimi Supervillain page, so that will help solve that issue. And with the TASM Supervillains added to the TASM Main Characters page, there might be enough bytes that we can bring back TASM Spidey's page.

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1527: Aug 27th 2024 at 7:30:17 AM

That seems good too because villains are main characters too

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1528: Aug 27th 2024 at 7:33:25 AM

Also if Andrew Garfield Peter’s page gets reinstated his video game version can be added as a variant because ATSV establishes him as canon

DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1529: Aug 27th 2024 at 7:44:35 AM

Didn't think about that, but yeah you're right. Plus then we can delete the MCU: Peter Parker Variants page and add Zombie Hunter Spider-Man and Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man to the MCU: Peter Parker page. And we can give a MCU character index to both Raimi and TASM Spidey.

Should I combine the pages like I said? Or should I wait until more people have had a chance to comment on the idea?

Edited by DarthDavros75 on Aug 27th 2024 at 7:44:46 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1530: Aug 27th 2024 at 9:34:31 AM

I’d wait for more insights from others

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1531: Aug 27th 2024 at 8:52:05 PM

Does anyone else have any insights? I think adding the supervillains works well to main characters works well but any other suggestions are welcome

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Aug 27th 2024 at 11:52:15 PM

DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1532: Aug 28th 2024 at 6:49:21 AM

So I checked and adding the The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Supervillains page and TASM Spidey's MCU folder to the The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Main Characters page would increase the byte size to roughly 202,507 bytes. Not sure if that's enough to justify bringing back TASM Spidey's page, but I still think they should be combined.

Meanwhile adding the Spider-Man Trilogy: Supervillains page to the Spider-Man Trilogy: Main Characters will be roughly 198,163 bytes.

Edited by DarthDavros75 on Aug 28th 2024 at 6:55:52 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1533: Aug 28th 2024 at 7:10:53 AM

Here’s something that might affect it: I think some of the Daily Bugle and Parker Family characters will have to be moved to Spider-Man Trilogy: Others because some of these characters don’t have that much screentime or plot relevance and Peter’s parents don’t even appear

DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1534: Aug 28th 2024 at 8:21:40 AM

I don't know about that. True they might not have the same plot relevance as Peter, MJ and Harry, but they're still major characters in the trilogy. The Daily Bugle staff is focused on a decent amount since that is a big part of Peter's life, and even though he dies in the first film Ben is still brought up and seen in 2 and 3. May is definitely Demoted to Extra in the third film, but has lots of significant scenes in the first two.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1535: Aug 28th 2024 at 10:35:38 AM

This is why I don’t like the new CSP rules, we should just have a CSP for both Spider-Men, then a supporting characters section, then an antagonists. It shouldn’t be that hard.

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DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1536: Aug 28th 2024 at 4:58:59 PM

Are you fine with the Supervillains pages being merged with the Main Characters pages.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1537: Aug 28th 2024 at 10:00:07 PM

It doesn't sit completely right with me but I'm not 100% against it. I think we're grouping the characters together just to get the CSP out. While the villains are technically main characters it just doesn't feel right to be.

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DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1538: Aug 29th 2024 at 2:03:41 AM

Maybe, but also there's not much reason to keep the Supervillain pages separate due to there not being that many on either pages, especially with the Raimi Supervillains. Plus if we don't then we would have to delete the Spider-Man Trilogy: Doctor Octopus page and move his Raimi tropes to the Supervillains page to make sure there is enough bytes.

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1539: Aug 29th 2024 at 5:49:39 AM

Even without reinstating Andrew Garfield Spidey’s page i think it makes some sense to me as the villains are main characters too but I’d take a step further and add The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Extracanonical to The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Others because that’s only 23k bytes which makes the page’s existence unnecessary and they can be considered "other" characters because of them being extracanonical

DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1541: Aug 30th 2024 at 8:58:22 AM

I think you can get right to merging those two because Extracanonical having far less than 40k is already enough grounds for it

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Aug 30th 2024 at 11:58:39 PM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1542: Aug 30th 2024 at 9:02:33 AM

By the way I noticed how X-Men Film Series: Mystique only has 37k bytes which isn’t enough as CSPs need to be 40k, should we fold her back to X-Men Film Series: X-Men (New Timeline) or X-Men Film Series: Brotherhood? I’ll let you guys vote for it and then I’ll fold her back to the page with the most votes

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Aug 31st 2024 at 12:02:47 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1543: Aug 30th 2024 at 9:47:43 AM

The big question is: are the Mystique of the Original Timeline and the Mystique of the New Timeline worth keeping in in one character sheet?

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MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1544: Aug 30th 2024 at 10:06:02 AM

Original Timeline Rebecca Romijn Mystique is a one-dimensional villain while New Timeline Jennifer Lawrence Mystique is more fleshed out, so maybe it’s a good idea to split them up? I’m not 100% sure

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1545: Aug 30th 2024 at 10:12:55 AM

Well, X-Men: First Class technically takes place in the Original Timeline, while the New Timeline Mystique appears in X-Men: Days of Future Past onward.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1546: Aug 30th 2024 at 11:51:51 AM

I think I might have mentioned this before, but I do think the Original Timeline and New Timeline tropes for the X-Men Film Series character pages do need to be separated into variants. But yeah I agree most of the tropes come from New Timeline Mystique and if she doesn't have enough bytes to actually have a page anyway then it should be deleted.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1547: Aug 30th 2024 at 11:55:51 AM

This is not really the place to discus the X-Men Film Series pages. The regular Character-Specific Pages thread would work better.

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DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1548: Aug 30th 2024 at 11:59:39 AM

Btw has it been decided yet whether the Raimi and TASM villains pages are merged with their respective Main Characters pages?

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1549: Aug 30th 2024 at 12:00:33 PM

I mean as the MCU has effectively absorbed the X-Men Film Series, and since there isn’t a dedicated thread for that, I’d personally say this is the place to discuss it, especially after the release of Deadpool and Wolverine.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
DarthDavros75 Since: Jan, 2023
#1550: Aug 30th 2024 at 12:05:46 PM

I've combined The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Extracanonical with The Amazing Spider-Man Series: Others. Also there is only 43,668 bytes in the Spider-Man Trilogy: Extracanonical page, should that be merged with the Spider-Man Trilogy: Others page or should they remain seperate?


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