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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1101: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:22:36 PM

[up] Well then where is? Because I disagree with this notion and would like to argue a case for keeping them.

[up][up] Locations are characterized by groups of people in one place. One guy in an inanimate object who is already clearly defined just isn't the same.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1102: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:23:25 PM

Again, I'm not saying that the tropes can't apply, I'm saying that they're not characters. Locations can be troped just fine but doing it in the characters namespace makes no sense to me.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1103: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:24:12 PM

Yeah, but locations have characters at/on them. And they deserve to be troped. Where else will we put them? They talk about all the people on the planet. Not the planet itself.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 19th 2023 at 8:25:15 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1104: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:25:03 PM

And those characters can be troped on their own like they have been, as long as we're not troping a literal location as if it's a fully sentient being

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1105: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:25:07 PM

You'd have to discuss it on wiki talk. I know a thread for it existed if you want to dig, or just make a new version of it. But either way, this is the wrong place.

Edit: Ya'll post fast, lol

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 19th 2023 at 11:25:28 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1106: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:28:16 PM

[up][up] But groups/species aren't just individual beings. We can't just limit it to individuals.

[up] I consider this an issue of utmost importance, so I have to post fast.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 19th 2023 at 8:28:38 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1107: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:31:08 PM

I'm still not arguing that - I drew a line between planets and species, saying that troping a planet as a character is wrong but a species in general is okay. If you wanna take the "In General" folder on Xandar's section and just rename it "Xandarians" I have no problem with that, the issue is right now it looks like we're troping planets as sentient beings.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1108: Dec 19th 2023 at 8:35:04 PM

[up] Well, if the solution's that simple...I'll do that as soon as I can (taking the other stuff mentioned in that folder into account). I can't do it straightaway because I'm doing stuff at the moment, but please don't delete anything until I can take a look at everything.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1109: Dec 20th 2023 at 2:28:49 AM

I’m not sure if this is the right forum for it but should we remove the explanation for the episodes in the What If recap page? It’s very spoilery imo especially Season 1, Episode 3 because that divergence wasn’t revealed until late into the episode.

Mimic45 Since: Feb, 2017
#1110: Dec 20th 2023 at 3:28:40 AM

I don't get it. The Star Wars character pages have plenty of folders about planets. Why is it a problem when the MCU's do the same?

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1111: Dec 20th 2023 at 5:56:36 AM

[up] The Star Wars ones should be removed to.

Just because another franchise does doesn't mean that it should. It just means that it hasn't been cleaned up yet.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 20th 2023 at 7:57:38 AM

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Mimic45 Since: Feb, 2017
#1112: Dec 20th 2023 at 6:58:49 AM

I still don't get it.

Having folders for places and objects helps make the tropes better organized and easier to find. I don't see any benefit in limiting them to just the characters and the main page, it only makes things more complicated for everyone.
And since Star Wars and other pages also have folders on locations and objects, it's clear that many tropers feel the same. So, at this point, wouldn't it be better to change the rules so that the character pages can include places and objects?

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#1113: Dec 20th 2023 at 7:04:12 AM

Once again just because the other pages do it doesn't mean that it does not break the rules. It just means that they need to be cleaned up too. Also, this has been decided after lengthy debate already. Either way this is not the place to debate this. All we can do for now is clean up pages to follow the riles.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1114: Dec 20th 2023 at 8:03:14 AM

Yeah, seriously if you want to discuss these things, you do it on Wiki Talk. You're arguing against a literal rule right now.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1115: Dec 20th 2023 at 8:12:20 AM

Out of curiosity, who made the current rule(s) in place regarding the planet world stuff?

Edited by MatthewWayne on Dec 20th 2023 at 8:12:39 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1116: Dec 20th 2023 at 8:16:24 AM

Well, I guess it would have been decided by whoever decided that Character Pages are for Character Tropes only, whether that was the community or Eddie or whatever. But it's been something we've been trying to enforce for years now, and multiple discussions have only ended up reinforcing the established rule. It's not exactly specific to planets.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 20th 2023 at 11:16:46 AM

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MasterSon from a barren ice field Since: Aug, 2017
#1117: Dec 20th 2023 at 6:10:17 PM

Before we get off track we still have MCU Kamala Khan to release. Anyone object?

Edited by MasterSon on Dec 20th 2023 at 6:10:29 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1118: Dec 21st 2023 at 2:17:29 AM

Her page looks good enough for me

MasterSon from a barren ice field Since: Aug, 2017
#1119: Dec 21st 2023 at 3:31:10 PM

[up]Done - the "sandbox" wicks need to be dropped from her and Hank Pym.

Edited by MasterSon on Dec 21st 2023 at 3:41:29 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1120: Dec 22nd 2023 at 1:17:33 AM

I’ll put them through the cutlist. Also please don’t redirect the sandbox to the main page.

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Dec 22nd 2023 at 5:18:11 PM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1121: Dec 22nd 2023 at 3:07:05 AM

Alright, the first episode of What If…? S2 is out. Let’s get back into it, fellas.

MasterSon from a barren ice field Since: Aug, 2017
#1122: Dec 22nd 2023 at 9:31:01 AM

[up][up]Noted. Thank you.

Edited by MasterSon on Dec 22nd 2023 at 9:31:15 AM

MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1123: Dec 23rd 2023 at 1:14:08 AM

Just watched the second episode of What If…? What do we call the universe on the variants folders? 1980s Avengers or Celestial Peter? I’m leaning towards the former.

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Dec 23rd 2023 at 7:34:51 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1124: Dec 23rd 2023 at 6:31:04 AM

I feel more about the latter, since I don't think our group of heroes actually call themselves the Avengers in this universe.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
MaxyGregoryyyy Jedi Knight of the Republic from Madripoor Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jedi Knight of the Republic
#1125: Dec 23rd 2023 at 7:56:10 AM

I also feel like a simple 1980s or 1988 could work

Edited by MaxyGregoryyyy on Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:56:30 PM


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